Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[Lidmotor]

Lasersaber replication

@Lasersaber
Well I think that you win the prize for the first one to get a close replication in motion. Congratulations.


YouTube - ‪RomeroUK Muller generator replication part 1‬‏

Thank you for posting the video of it running even though you are not finished wiring all the generator coils up. It is a beautiful replication. Well done.

I think that it is time for me to order some Litz wire from Nebraska Surplus.

Lidmotor

[duff]

I repair large copy machines. Some of our older machines used a magnetite developer. It is 99 percent pure magnetite mixed with a resin and toner basically. I will attempt to separate the magnetite from the developer before I use it and take a shot at my own cores.

@redrichie

This technique should work for extracting the magnetite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUaAfiGR-8c

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, great work on your setup lasersaber.
Here's a pic of one of the trigger air coils mounted and able to be adjusted.
I used a 5/8" diameter nylon threaded rod to wind the coil on, though it still could use some more turns, though works with a light spin up.
Will be making the other core/coils now.


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peace love light
tyson

[Lidmotor]

Perhaps a very famous statement

@All
I read this (again) over at OU and thought that this might motivate people. It sure motivates me.

RomeroUK---May 5, 2011 --post 147---page 10

"The capacitor is 47,000uf/25volts. I just had to start manually, no battery. I turned the rotor a few times with my hand to get some charge to the capacitor then switched the converter on. It started OK, no problem. The advantage here is that the circuit starts working from about 3.5 volts."

Let that rattle around in your head like a BB for awhile and just imagine that it was you with your machine sitting in front of you.

From my little testing so far this might actually be real--- or it might be one of the most elaborate and cruel hoaxes I have ever seen. I prefer to think that it is real.

Lidmotor

[synchro]

Maggie Output Muller dynamo.

@Lidmotor,

Don't doubt for one second that this is not the real thing! I don't know if you remember my posts on the one magnet Bedini thread, and my "Lenz Propusion Theory". Let me recant what I accomplished, and how the effect is similar to the Hatem magnetic cogging effect and the Overunity generator Mindfreer has on Youtube.

I looped a 32 AWG solid wire output coil with two back to back 1/4" diametric tube magnets in the core, back to source. This sped the rotor up and generated enough excess power to forcefully charge the run battery. The coil spool was from a Radio Shack three magnet wire package. They have 1/4" hollow cores, and are 2" high. I spun a 2" diametric tube with a Bedini bifilar. You'll need smaller magnets to try inside your tiny sewing bobbin coils. The setup was real simple, unfortunately my video camera hit the floor when I scored a colision. You have to be carefull.

What I think may have been happening at this point is that the diametric magnets may have started spinning, or rotating back and forth. I had the output coil tied into a full wave bridge rectifier, so it wouldn't have made any difference which way or what amount they swiveled. I assumed at the time they were simply vibrating, but swiveling might account for the acceleration of the rotor, along with the increased output. The charging only worked when I detcted vibration inside the coil with the magnet plug inside. I can assure you, this is a very very powerfull effect.

I bet placing tiny magnet sphere's inside the Muller magnet output coils would have the same effect. After all, it was your Maggie effect that inspired me! Remember how you and Jonnydavro discovered how your Maggie satellite output coil decreased input on the main rotor? Think about how this might improve the Muller dynamo. All Maggie's children! The dynamo would work best this way on it's side with circular floors stuck inside the cores to keep the magnet spheres centered in the middle of the output coils, top and bottem. I hope your new Muller dynamo setup gives you a chance to experiment with these new magnet core output ideas!

The point is the extra power's comming from the magnatized ferrite core in the Muller output coils. These coils actually constitute seperate auxiliary motors, a Hatem cogging effect. Good luck! May the force be with you.

[woopy]

Hi all for the interested

Today i made 3 video of the moving magnetic field on this device

here the last and most intersting one

hope this helps

Good luck at all

Laurent

YouTube - ‪romero-muller 3.wmv‬‏

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi woopy, thanks for sharing the video, hope it can help shed more light on this dynamo.
I mounted another coil today and spun up the motor to see what kind of voltage just one coil will give at 12 volts.
So right now it has 1 motor drive coil and the 1 generator coil, it's a 5 coil/6 magnet rotor setup.

Using full wave bridge:
5.9 volts out, while motor draws 200 milliamps.
peace love light
tyson

[yeron]

To all of you replicating the romerouk muller divice

Hello to you all.

I have been following the news on the replications of the muller/romerouk device from the start.

Some of them just look fabulous .
Also the ways of finding the hardware and what materials to use, you are all doing some fantastic work here .
Sewing machine bobbins !!!!!! that's just genius

My hands are itching again to go ahead and build my own rig .
Very inspiring !

I really enjoy seeing you all working on these machines .

All of this is a very good example of how open minded builders share and open-source there findings helping each other to reach there goal.
I want to point out that working together in this fashion is really powerful

What the big companies do with a lot of money and bureaucratic waste time ,you are doing it together with a little money and a lot of enthusiasm , skills and out off the box thinking.

I am just very pleased to see all of this happening .

I guess if you really want it to work IT WILL WORK !!!!!



Yeron (Netherlands)

maximum thumbs up would like to post more but......

[toranarod]

Hi folks, Hi woopy, thanks for sharing the video, hope it can help shed more light on this dynamo.
I mounted another coil today and spun up the motor to see what kind of voltage just one coil will give at 12 volts.
So right now it has 1 motor drive coil and the 1 generator coil, it's a 5 coil/6 magnet rotor setup.

Using full wave bridge:
5.9 volts out, while motor draws 200 milliamps.
peace love light
tyson

hello SkyWatcher
I have been following you post Well done on getting something going so soon.
we are all working on this its been a lot of fun.
thanks for your support.

here is my work so far almost ready just a few more days.

[toranarod]

Hello to you all.

I have been following the news on the replications of the muller/romerouk device from the start.

Some of them just look fabulous .
Also the ways of finding the hardware and what materials to use, you are all doing some fantastic work here .
Sewing machine bobbins !!!!!! that's just genius

My hands are itching again to go ahead and build my own rig .
Very inspiring !

I really enjoy seeing you all working on these machines .

All of this is a very good example of how open minded builders share and open-source there findings helping each other to reach there goal.
I want to point out that working together in this fashion is really powerful

What the big companies do with a lot of money and bureaucratic waste time ,you are doing it together with a little money and a lot of enthusiasm , skills and out off the box thinking.

I am just very pleased to see all of this happening .

I guess if you really want it to work IT WILL WORK !!!!!



Yeron (Netherlands)

but......

Well said Thank you.
you made some very good points hope to see you builds very soon.

cheers

[totoalas]

Muller gen from scrap

Hi to all

great builders on this thread
Just want to have your opinion on my ideas
Vcr head bought for hkd 10 plexiglass for hkd 10 from old cabinet
coil 30 hkd ring magnets hkd 2 each
hkd magnets hkd 10 per pair

On the Punch list this weekend
Cool Power from mini but mighty amps my wish
Cant decide yet on magnets to use on the rotor
ferrite ring magnets from microwave top and bottom / coil with top and bottom ring magnets to levitate the rotor s n n s s n and egg magnet as cores
The neodyne magnets from pc hard disk has n s on one side and the bottom part is reverse if i will use this
But my observation by hand rotation a combination of the ring magnet and neodyne provide more revolution than rng magnets alone
Bottom coil is bifilar a la Tesla 14 ga wire with top and bottom ring magnets and egg magnet as cores Top coil in series is Neogen winding 14 ga with top and bottom ring magnets n s bottom n s s n rotor s n n s top coil n s
The purpose is to levitate the rotor plate as Neogen is using magnetic bearingsAny advise on my ideas are welcome
Rotor plate was done 30 minutes during lunch break lol
cheers

totoalas

YouTube - ‪CP Muller Gen Replication 200511.avi‬‏

[toranarod]

almost there

Hello all.

Have almost finished the build. then the hard stuff begins.
looking for the elusive OU.

Ash. this is what we have. Wind the coils tonight and on into tomorrow.

[toranarod]

Hi to all

great builders on this thread
Just want to have your opinion on my ideas
Vcr head bought for hkd 10 plexiglass for hkd 10 from old cabinet
coil 30 hkd ring magnets hkd 2 each
hkd magnets hkd 10 per pair

On the Punch list this weekend
Cool Power from mini but mighty amps my wish
Cant decide yet on magnets to use on the rotor
ferrite ring magnets from microwave top and bottom / coil with top and bottom ring magnets to levitate the rotor s n n s s n and egg magnet as cores
The neodyne magnets from pc hard disk has n s on one side and the bottom part is reverse if i will use this
But my observation by hand rotation a combination of the ring magnet and neodyne provide more revolution than rng magnets alone
Bottom coil is bifilar a la Tesla 14 ga wire with top and bottom ring magnets and egg magnet as cores Top coil in series is Neogen winding 14 ga with top and bottom ring magnets n s bottom n s s n rotor s n n s top coil n s
The purpose is to levitate the rotor plate as Neogen is using magnetic bearingsAny advise on my ideas are welcome
Rotor plate was done 30 minutes during lunch break lol
cheers

totoalas

YouTube - ‪CP Muller Gen Replication 200511.avi‬‏

Hello
totoalas

ever build is unique and needs to be tried and tested.
look at Romerosuk motor he built an amazing machine that did what so many
have tried with 10 times the money spent.
I would love to see a photo of what you present when ready
good luck

[N O G]

Muller motor

Hi there Rod,
Nice work mate . and everyone else . cheers Jason

[elias]

Hello

I am very happy to see many people are getting on to this.
Good luck to all of the builders. The Lenz drag is not like it seems at all.

Thanks lidmotor for your recent video, it clearly shows that there is something
to this system, that we do not see when we think conventionally.

I am looking forward to see more results. It would be really good if we could
reach a place to lay out a complete blueprint about the Muller machine so that
any one can follow and build it. I am out of budget at the moment for this.

Also as I was reaching for very high speeds (more than 6000RPM) it was quite
dangerous, and plexiglass doesn't have the necessary strength to withstand
that type of pressure, so I highly recommend against using plexiglass.

The pulsing in the Muller design allows the other coils to collect, when one of
them is firing at the moment. That makes a stepwise increase in speed right at
that moment, and helps decrease the Lenz effect. Also because all of the coils
are out of phase with eachother, when one is generating a maximum voltage
the others are generating less than that, thus it makes the machine work
much uniformly. Namely there will be 15 different phases in a 15 coil machine.

Because there is no magnetic cogging in this system, when the Lenz repulsion
kicks in, it causes minimal drag, because it cannot overcome the strong
attraction that keeps the system, with cog. So the system doesn't
see the momentary Lenz repulsive drag because of that. Note that there is no
attractive drag in this system. At the attractive phase, the generator works
as a motor, and pushes the magnet away. Another major factor is the speed
of operation, as the speed is higher, the less drag will be noticed, by the
rotor. All of this when add up makes this motor-generator, do what it does.
This system must be seen as a whole.

<Attraction of unlike poles in magnetic fields is much more powerful than repulsion of like poles>

I am going to demonstrate the statement above, with a simple device I had built quite time ago.

Elias