Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[Xenomorph]

Just looking back at Romero's setup I would like to say some of his design makes good sense, but there are other parts that don't I guess we will never know?
If it didn't work he was very close. and if it did its his secret.

Or he might have a different principle going on.
He once posted a statement that can be found on page 24 of the "official" pdf:

Don't even think of using metal or laminations for the cores

It could have been a disinfo attempt, but i guess only him knows why
he would not have used metal.

Regardless, it is very important that you have found the benefit of laminations! Much luck with further development of it !

[quantumuppercut]

thanks for the Photo
It all makes complete sense now? So now we know how to do it.
Who is going to be the first to build an OU motor
who is working on a full prototype for a full size working generator.
I did some drafting on the weekend. there are just few unknown dimensions but will have that sorted out soon.

Already? Guess I'll try to catch up in some way. I'm working on my ghetto version. Ain't working out so well. The little guy is drawing too much juice.

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[toranarod]

hello to all.
That's a good idea. I have tested every thing else.
I can quickly inset bolt of the same dimension into my coil to replace the laminated core. that will be interesting if what we thought was the worst set up became the best setup. An OU device you can build from your Hardware store.
that will freak out the energy company's

Hello
I am very surprised about what I am about to report.
I have just spent a few hours cutting up a peace of middle steal into the exact shape as my MU metal laminated core. I have put a soiled block of steel into my 5mH coil replacing the laminated MU metal core. Setting up all the same condition as before without laminations. IT DID NOT WORK .
The only thing it did was work under full short circuit.
Remember I said the MU metal did not work under full short circuit but did work under a normal load. So soild steel cores are out unless somebody else can prove other wise.
I was not able to use any power from the generator coil. Any attempt to drive the largest load was met with standard generator behavior. Lenz law was all over it.

I will try a solid MU metal core any money on the out come

[quantumuppercut]

Mu metal +1 Steel 0
Wait, what kind of steel. lol
Wow, cut out a block of steel... Now I know how lazy I am. lol

[toranarod]

Iron core, how do we make this type




its become very apparent the core material is the most important factor

[Mr.Whip]

Black sand

From the Pat. Kelly site


The solid coil formers were made from ‘amorphous metal’ and are 2 inches (50 mm) in diameter and 3 inches (75 mm) long. Bill used a special mix of ‘black sand’ (probably magnetite granules) encased in epoxy resin, but an alternative is said to be hard steel - the harder the better.

If attemting to replacate drag a magnet through black sand for core material compress tightly in to formers with epoxy.
Ive made these for other prodjects, Couldnt tell you now about the lens effect been a few years.


Randy W.

[pmazz850]

Muller core = 60/40 mix black sand(magnetite)/epoxy. Its stated in the neogen video part 1 and also by his daughter Carmen in part 2!

[vidbid]

Video Removed - Found Mirror Video

That is a pretty incredible machine!! Look forward to seeing where this one goes

N8

For some reason, the video was removed.

Here's a mirror of it:

free energy device self running powering lightbulb - RomeroUK Muller Motor - Generator

[phoneboy]

A suggestion for a core material, have been wanting to try, don't know if anyone has materials for it though. Take iron powder and mix it with phosphoric acid, then dry it. This should make a non conducive layer on the particles. After that pack it in a tube or mix it with epoxy and form to shape.

[Matthew Jones]

Muller core = 60/40 mix black sand(magnetite)/epoxy. Its stated in the neogen video part 1 and also by his daughter Carmen in part 2!

The material was probably NOT epoxy and magnetite.

On the Following page it is describe as "Amorphous metal".
Muller Power.com ... Articles pertaining to Bill Muller's Motor/Generators

Later in a another section on that page, under the Hysteresis section, it described as "Muller's amorphous polycrystalline core material "
Muller Power.com ... Articles pertaining to Bill Muller's Motor/Generators

A little further down in this section it says....

INEXPENSIVE TO MANUFACTURE

By using Muller’s Patented Amorphous Polycrystalline Ferrite compound, expensive components made from metglass or specially laminated steels can be eliminated. The entire structure of the motor can be made of extruded components of plastic/ferrite.

On another page the material is described as made of magnetic sand. Around the 4th paragraph.
www.MullerPower.com ... Articles pertaining to Bill Muller's Motor/Generators


I have personally tested several compounds made with magnetic sand. Compared to iron filings magnetite by itself is not a good core material. Even aligned with magnetic field to provide structure, saturation is very hard to achieve. Without some level of saturation generating becomes near impossible.
I have mixed an iron magnetite mix with epoxy and this also showed lower than normal.

I have never had the chance to use furnace but what I suspect he was doing based on the name "Amorphous Metal" Was some how casting a glass compound with iron mixed in. IE similar to Leaded crystal. It may have had some amount of silica involved.
Casting the glass would allow for the iron ,silica and magnetite to mix at real close ratio's on the molecular level.
This would form a glass rock if you will, that could be ground down into a power them mixed with epoxy and "Extruded" into shapes.

I have found several article under Google scholar in which people have spent time looking at these mixes. I'll leave you to find them for yourselves.
But basically thats what the "The perfect core material" was looking like.
The description of the material were portraying the same characteristics as described by Muller and other people. They allowed hysteresis to become a non issue.

If you spend a little time looking at different Amorphous Metals and Polycrystalline compounds that are already common you should soon realize there is going to be a little more than just magnetic sand and epoxy involved.

Matt

[RAMSET]

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[elias]

Pipe cores

The first core I used that I got incredible acceleration was the core on the left:


As you can see it is a steel pipe with welding rods in it.
It suffered from so much eddy current that I abandoned using it, at first I did not realize that it has so much eddies.
So I cut the pipe from one side so that it "breaks" the loop, and decreases the eddy current. I suppose that the best would be concentric, sheets of steels.

[Matthew Jones]

You could use silicone steel.

Electrical steel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Matt

[elias]

i wonder about using Iron power mixed with oil as the core (ferrofluid)

[ewizard]

ramset did you not see the battery in the device? In another vid he did he has a battery running it and you can see the output voltage get lower over just a couple minutes. In the vid you posted he charges a cap apparently and while this thing looks very efficient I don't think it is overunity. I saw this earlier on OU where feinfo posted it but I don't think it's anything to get excited about. I wish OU was that simple - 2 coils, 4 diodes and a couple caps is all he's using.