Muller generator replication by Romerouk

[toranarod]

Pictured Below is Romerouk work




The correct position is location B

I am having bobbins from PVC
will post photo in few days

[penno64]

Hi Rod,

Have you done any preliminary tests on coils yet.

Just can not seem to get anywhere near 12v from anything I have tried.

Your thoughts, please.

Penno

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi ren, thanks for the encouragement. Yes I think I read from Bill Muller, that he also said hardened steel tube cores would work fairly well also. So ferrite can only be that much better.
Here's a pic of one of the coil/cores. Just using tape right now to hold it together, have to think of something to hold it together better.


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peace love light
tyson

[toranarod]

Hi folks, Hi ren, thanks for the encouragement. Yes I think I read from Bill Muller, that he also said hardened steel tube cores would work fairly well also. So ferrite can only be that much better.
Here's a pic of one of the coil/cores. Just using tape right now to hold it together, have to think of something to hold it together better.


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peace love light
tyson

What are the dimensions of the coil? looks good
now wind 17 more LOL thats seem like job?

I am having formers made are you interested in a few?

[ztec2002]

apairently this is a hoax . but it looks like its worth trying to build one to see if its only a fake hoax, putting this on the to do list.

cheers ztec

[blackchisel97]

apairently this is a hoax . but it looks like its worth trying to build one to see if its only a fake hoax, putting this on the to do list.

cheers ztec

And your opinion is based on what precisely?

V

[ztec2002]

Just seen it on the PESWiKi web site, just made me wonder whats going on?

cheers ztec2002

[blackchisel97]

Just seen it on the PESWiKi web site, just made me wonder whats going on?

cheers ztec2002

As you probably noticed this thread is for replication not wondering and speculations. You've made a comment classifying this as a "apparent hoax" based solely on something you read on PESWiKi web site.
You've asked in other thread - http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...aking-meg.htmlwhy no one is replicating MEG and were about to have one built over the weekend. In another thread - http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...5-11-11-a.html you apparently failed to recognize the very MEG you're suppose to have done by now and video posted.
May I ask what is your agenda?


V

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi toranarod, thanks for the offer and kind words, though I think I'll just use a few dabs of glue here and there to keep it structurally sound.

Then use a couple dabs of JB weld to glue the core to the main frame.

I'm going with the 5 coil/10 total, 6 rotor magnet geometry.
The coil is 1-1/2" diameter X 1-1/8" long
Ferrite bead core is 3/4" diameter X 1-1/8" long X 5/32" wall thickness.

I also figured out the problem with the reed switch on my last test with the bolt cores.
When the strong neo magnets are in close proximity to the reed switch, the timing magnet rotor has to be repelling the magnets on the main rotor or the reed switch tends to stick and does not switch properly.
Hope this helps anyone that is using reed switch for testing.
I'm going to test bolt core again to see how it runs now, while I'm winding these ferrite beads.
peace love light
tyson
Oh by the way, all this suppression garbage does not tend to fly here, we know the game being played and soon enough, all the people will know.

[electr0n]

The wiring for each coil pair appears to me (going by the photos)

Call the top of the generator as pictured with the pcbs on top, as it was on the table.

The top coil appears wound anticlockwise, the centre or start of the winding exits the stator outside-closest to the outer edge. The end of the winding exits 180deg (closer to the shaft).
The ends of the coil winding are soldered to a 3pin wire clip.
The centre pin of the 3pin wire clip goes to the end of the winding, and the wire from the centre pin is a series link to the bottom coil.

Can someone confirm this so far?
will post progress on my replication if you guys want
all the best

[ztec2002]

i dont think its a hoax i did put this very interesting build on my do list and i have not lost hope in the meg.

cheers ztec2002

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I ran another test with the 5 bolt coils on one side as before and now it runs much better now that reed is switching better, though the coil/core is still getting hot, just takes longer for it to do so.
I think the amperage capacity of the wire is being exceeded and the on time being too long may account for that.
Like i said, because I've had steel bolts run cold before.
Reason I'm testing this is because I don't want to wind all these ferrite bead cores to then find out that the wire can't handle much average current and will heat up the ferrite cores just the same.
Maybe putting multiple 24 gauge strands together like the litz method will prevent this heat buildup.
What do you folks think, is it mainly the core or could it just be the amp capacity of the wire is being exceeded?
at 12 volts it was 300 milliamps and at 24 volts it was 550 milliamps.
peace love light
tyson

[ashtweth]

To protect open source engineers, guys this idea was inspired by Lawrence, i dont know why we didn't think of it before, there are enough TRUSTED engineers and we can vouch for a close groups of friends that can form a secure open source team in private PRIOR TO DISCLOSURE TO TEST/CONFIRM/IMPROVE and protect the individual.

After the RAVI and Romerouk case, it should be clear how to proceed. Send the info to the team first.

Information and reports can be sent in private to this team in a secure link (open source engineers first disclosure) . When there are sufficient replications by the team, an organization (not an individual) can publish the open source information. The team can give critical technical support before hand and TRACK what we need too .

There are many other ways to do it, but we need some thing, the individual must have a criteria to be safer then whats going on we have seen too many and should be able to counter this now, ill put up that resources for all and already have trusted engineers who can do what i mentioned am open to ideas but send them to me off list we wont hi jack the thread.

Ps, Rod will send some help over for the Rep this evening


Ash

[ashtweth]

Yes I think RomeroUK is genuine. I've had a number of PM's with him in the last year. Take a look here at some of his many projects (his forum - small but lots of pics): RomeroUK Work Pictures

He's a serious builder and is meticulous in fine tuning his builds.

http://underservice.org/index.php?topic=4.0
RomeroUK Work Pictures gone too!

[ztec2002]

besides magnet mans meg , the magnets are placed wrong i dont see how that would work. may be wrong, just how i feel.

cheers ztec2002