Unlimited electric power discovery

[Steve220]

Perhaps you might find the ideas of Peter Joseph and Jacque Frescoe (sp?) of interest. They have been in the news quite recently. Peter Joseph is associated with the Zeitgeist Movement and Jacque runs the Venus Project. You'll find them on Google, etc.

Thanks, I have went through the information and found it to be interesting.
I do agree with most of it, but I can't see how this will come about any time soon. Long term, I think it will happen. The current system is failing and has been for a long time. When it will finally fall apart, I am not sure. One thing I am sure of is, for better or worse, the current system can't go on forever.
It worked for a long time, but now the rules have changed and there is no going back to the past. Even with all its faults, I like the old system, but that was then, this is now.

[Sun Fusion]

If we use energy from solar panels (SF fusion), we can reduce the dependency on fossil fuels so that we don't exhaust it totally. People have started using solar panels for energy these days..

[ztec2002]

the time has come when we can use oil for plastics and building materials instead of wasting this by burning it . think of all the things that could of being made for the future that went up in smoke . time to stop raping our future, free energy here we come.

[jtanguay]

The love of money is the root cause of a lot of evil in this world. Self preservation is very close too. Some of you might think "but what about me? I need to look after number 1!" Well then go look after number 1 and be a slave to this world. Selflessness is the only way out. Doing the right thing no matter what, and despite the threat of harm. Why fear those who can take your body? We must only fear the One who gave us the body and can not only take it away, but our spark of life also.

If everyone had a selfless nature of putting others before themselves, wouldn't we be living in paradise already? Is everyone ready for what the future holds? Population reduction, as long as I'm not the one making the ultimate 'sacrifice'? Turn us against eachother so that we don't band together to fight the evil force in this world that made its dwelling place in our homes (bodies). Root out the evil everywhere. We don't need money. We just need to stick together. That's why the ones in power are trying to make bartering illegal.

Tesla already showed us how to generate virtually unlimited quantities of electrical energy from his wardencliffe tower. Many times less the cost of conventional 'high efficiency' solar panels. Many good replications are out there too! The components are liken to that of plants. Antenna in the air (leaves) and ground source (roots). You can't best nature! Mother knows best

[Bizzy]

About 400 Million people in the states. Around 50 million live in rural areas. Lets leave it like that! There are 4 towns in my county. The population of the whole county is less than 25,000. We keep corporate growth at bay. We are mainly agricultural and cattle with some phosphate mining. Local landowners and cattle ranchers want to keep it that way.

Hi Iotayodi
May I ask where you live? only 25,000 people sounds great
Bizzy

[Bizzy]

another option

Besides manufacturing and selling an overunity machine and have to face law suites patent infringements etc and possable death threats, there may be another way for a person to suse his or her invention to make money...

Make them first to get off the grid yourself and make sure they work and can support your power needs. Then make more of them and simply sell the power to the electric companies. they have to buy it. You may have to hide the actual unit such as putting up a windmill and tell them the power is coming from there.Or tell them you are using thermol heat to run a generator. This will keep them off of the track.
It may also be wise to make the idea known on open source sites like this. the more people who know and build them the less likely the powers that be can stop the idea. There is safety in numbers.
My humble thoughts
Bizzy

[ztec2002]

best way to make money is to sell it to grow ops . at least they will not tell anyone and you can ask top dollar for your unit and have a hard time keeping up with the orders and they will not try to kill you like big oil.they will be begging you for as many as you can build.

cheers ztec2002

[jtanguay]

Besides manufacturing and selling an overunity machine and have to face law suites patent infringements etc and possable death threats,

Law suits and patent infrigements? What a joke. If you were free then you shouldn't have to worry about that. But because you accept the name forced upon you at birth then you go along with the whole scheme. Realize that you are FREE and that you don't have a name as you are a being of light and cannot be named. You only have names by which others call you.

Why should we be afraid? Maybe if more people grew some balls and came forth and through selflessness they sacrificed of themselves for others, maybe then we can get closer to the utopian society on earth. If nobody is willing, then I guess we'll all suffer. Wouldn't the older brother stick up for his younger brother, and do so at his own peril?

Look up about your strawman. It's sickening.

[Bizzy]

Law suits and patent infrigements? What a joke. If you were free then you shouldn't have to worry about that. But because you accept the name forced upon you at birth then you go along with the whole scheme. Realize that you are FREE and that you don't have a name as you are a being of light and cannot be named. You only have names by which others call you.

Why should we be afraid? Maybe if more people grew some balls and came forth and through selflessness they sacrificed of themselves for others, maybe then we can get closer to the utopian society on earth. If nobody is willing, then I guess we'll all suffer. Wouldn't the older brother stick up for his younger brother, and do so at his own peril?

Look up about your strawman. It's sickening.

It is not about being afraid. We live in a nation of laws. And even though we dont like those laws we still have to follow them atleast until they can be changed one way or another. However like all laws there are loop holes which is basically what I suggested...

Every person's utopia is different. I would hate to live in a socilaist/communist utopia or a muslim utopia ect... I would probably detest your idea of utopia and I know with all certainty that you and most peole would HATE living in what I think utopia should be. Most people could never survive in my utopia.

As far as sharing ideas that is the whole purpose of open sources like this. I happily share my ideas as do others. I would not have gotten as far as I have with this help. And like wise i hope that what I provide may be usefull to others.
Bizzy

[wanderermaz]

what happens now

MIT’s Daniel Nocera Announces Artificial Leaf With Goal To Make Every Home a Power Station, Signs with Tata | Free Energy Times

forget the conspiracy theories guys... it's here. start thinking what it might mean.

[gravityblock]

Victor Klimov of Los Alamos National Laboratory

Victor Klimov, in Los Alamos National Laboratory has constructed a solar cell which can absorb the light of a specific wave length in such a way, that one photon can energize more than one electron. As soon as the electron absorbs a photon, it disappears for a very short moment into the quantum field. Being in the virtual state the electron can borrow energy from the vacuum and thereafter appears again in our reality. Now the electron can energize up to 7 other electrons. This leads to a theoretical coefficient of performance (COP) of 700%. A COP = 200% can be readily achieved and it has been. The experiment has also been replicated successfully by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden Colorado.

Reference Links:

Nanocrystalline Quantum Dots (by Victor Klimov)
Solar power - Seriously Souped Up (Future Energy eNews)
Victor Klimov FREE-ENERGY System – 100% Proven (Dimensional Bliss)
Victor I. Klimov - "Energy From The Vacuum" (PESWiki)

GB

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

My take on this subject is as follows:

Free energy and advanced technology (antigravity and the like) directly threaten the establishment. It's not just about money, though. The way I see it, it's more of a threat to the military/prison industrial complex and the police state.

What happens if everyone makes their own electricity? They can't cut the power cord! That means, martial law/ instantaneous control of the masses is very difficult. What if everyone built their own magnifying transmitters for communication? No more tracking by cell. What happens when we apply free energy to a hand-held device? Unlimited ammunition if you're building the right thing. Lasers, masers, tasers, EMPs. Coil guns, plasma cannons, forcefield technology.......Ya, the military can use directed energy weapons on their enemies, and the police can use it for 'crowd control', but what if WE THE PEOPLE have these things too?

They lose the upper hand.

[gravityblock]

Solar Power without Solar Cells!

'Optical Battery' Discovery Could Mean Solar Power Without Solar Cells and is 100 million times stronger than thought possible

The report explains that light has both electric and magnetic components but, until now, scientists believed the magnetic field effects were weak enough that they could be ignored. Rand and his fellow researchers, however, found that at the right intensity, when light is traveling through a material that does not conduct electricity, the light field can generate magnetic effects that are 100 million times stronger than thought possible. Under these circumstances, says Rand, the magnetic fields become similar in strength to a strong electric effect.

Before, this effect had only been observed in crystalline materials that possessed a certain symmetry. This process works with materials such as glass, but presently requires light that surpasses the sun’s natural intensity. Fisher indicated they were working on finding materials that would work at lower light intensity. Fisher notes that a solar cell using this new energy harvesting technique would only require lenses to focus the light and fiber to carry it. “Glass works for both,” said Fisher, ”it’s already made in bulk, and it doesn’t require as much processing. Transparent ceramics might be even better.”

A parabolic dish or the Double Cylindrical Point Focus principal (DCPF) can be used to surpass the sun's natural intensity, so we can use materials which are readily available today.

GB

[gravityblock]

Time-based infinite amplification

Ed Leedskalnin demonstrated the magnetic effects of light to the world long before most of us were ever born. Science tends to ignore things it cannot explain until an acceptable explanation comes along.

examining the data on the above work, i believe that 100 million times is a very modest estimate, and is actually a time-based infinite amplification. similar to a resonant wave, and that if you had "fiber-optic" cables of infinite length for light to pass through the medium, you would have infinite energy.

Above is a snippet from a quote by smoky2 at OU.com regarding the optical battery. I do agree with his analysis. In regards to Ed Leedskalnin, he did refer to creating lots of light with his generator, in his book titled "magnetic currents", and he also experimented with glass bottles. Glass can be used in the optical battery.

GB

[Steve220]

Good information

I do think there will be a break through soon involving solar energy that will not require expensive materials or processing. I also wonder what inexpensive energy, or free energy will cost?
As I have said before I hope it leads to a better world and not a not so better world.
I could see pollution from burning oil and wars over oil being replaced with over population and wars over food, for example.
Free energy, but now starving? I would think free energy would cause food production to go up and drive prices down. But would this lead to over population to the point of over running food production?
Good or bad, just wondering. Also wondering why this is not a hot topic of discussion.
The world only has so much raw material no matter how much energy you have. May be unlimited energy, but not unlimited material to make things out of.
Not unlimited land to grow food on or live on.
Electric cars can clog up a highway just like a gas powered car can.
No pollution, but you are still stuck in a traffic jam.

You could end up with a police state if you have unlimited energy.
Now, gas prices limit most driving, for example. Would free energy cause unlimited driving too? I would think so. There may have to be a high tax on mileage to pay for highways and limit driving, just to keep the highways from becoming one huge grid lock.

Would people want to switch to electric powered heavy tank like SUVs? I would bet so. I know I would. The only reason I don't have one now is the high cost of fuel.
More urban sprawl, because of unlimited driving of pollution free electric cars? I would bet yes.

The money that was spent on energy would now be spent on what? New cars, housing, all kinds of stuff. Would the economy boom and become very inflationary, more than now I mean?

I am NOT saying the present situation is better. I am only saying that it should at least be looked into before it happens to get an idea of what to get ready for in the future.

I think these are valid questions and a good topic for discussion.