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  • Free Energy with Petrovoltaics

    It seems that dielectric material exhibits some spontaneous self-potential of some sorts. This effect is called Petrovoltaic, or solid-state energy. Things like rocks, concrete, and even capacitors show this effect. The petrovoltaic effect is still very mysterious and some even stated that it is merely a electrochemical reaction but this can not be confirmed.

    I think I've came up with a way to exploit this effect further without really killing the petrovoltaic cells. The cells I've seen to be making the best progress are my concrete cells (70% quick-crete, 20% table salt, and water). These concrete cells have aluminum wire and copper wire and when the cells are wet they are a galvanic battery, so letting it dry is highly important if you want to see the petrovoltaic energy. What is so special about these cells is unlike other concrete cells where they start off above one volt and start to go down as it dries these concrete cells with quite a bit of salt in them start off below a volt and slowly go up in voltage as the cell dries. You can also use the same metals for both plates of the cell, thus showing that a galvanic reaction is not what powering these cells.

    I must say that these petrovoltaic cells are not batteries, so they must not be treated like one. What I mean by this is that you should not directly hook up a load such as a LED to the cell. These cells are non-conventional things and hooking it to a conventional electronics is just not good. The energy coming from the cell must be converted and stored, this is done by hooking it to a capacitor. The copper of the cell goes to the positive of the capacitor and the aluminum of the cell goes to the negative of the capacitor. You charge the capacitor and when the capacitor is full you remove it and run your load off the capacitor.

    What makes the capacitor so special is that it too is a petrovoltaic cell but is more adapted to our conventional electronics. When the capacitor is hooked to the cell they give each other a good balance and some very interesting charging can be seen.

    Also the cells themselves should not be connected in series with other cells of the like, putting them in parallel is fine but don't do series. Putting them in series doesn't fully give greater voltages as like with petrovoltaic cells it can be a negative effect. Also plate size offers faster charging too.
    This is not meant to power your house but to show you can get effective power from the petrovoltaic effect with out destroying it. The capacitors take time to charge but once charge they can run the load while the cell relaxes. These cells are very unique, they can be shorted out for long periods of time and bounce back up to the original voltage and amps.


    In the picture the white wire is positive and the green wire is negative. The cell is quick-crete and a good bit of salt added and water. mix it til the texture is like oat meal and let it dry for a couple of days, don't give it a load and only connect it to a capacitor so you can charge the capacitor and have the capacitor run the load.
    Last edited by ibpointless2; 01-13-2012, 01:48 AM.
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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    The goal of these cells is to have them charge a capacitor or battery and then run the load off the capacitor or battery and not the cell itself. This helps to keep from destroying the cell or the dipole. thus you have a continues power.

    I've shorted the cells out for long periods of time and they all bounce back to the original voltage or sometimes higher voltage and amps.

    Even if one cell is only producing 100mV I have seen it slowly charge a AA battery that was over 1 volt on the battery.

    The effect has to do with dielectric material and using its energy to charge a capacitor and then run the load off the capacitor at no cost to you. You don't turn no generator or use chemicals. When the cell is dried it is a dielectric material, no water exist in it but yet it gives you free energy.
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
      The goal of these cells is to have them charge a capacitor or battery and then run the load off the capacitor or battery and not the cell itself. This helps to keep from destroying the cell or the dipole. thus you have a continues power.

      I've shorted the cells out for long periods of time and they all bounce back to the original voltage or sometimes higher voltage and amps.

      Even if one cell is only producing 100mV I have seen it slowly charge a AA battery that was over 1 volt on the battery.

      The effect has to do with dielectric material and using its energy to charge a capacitor and then run the load off the capacitor at no cost to you. You don't turn no generator or use chemicals. When the cell is dried it is a dielectric material, no water exist in it but yet it gives you free energy.

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      • #4
        This link doesn't seem to be dealing with what i'm doing. My cells (not living cells but battery cells) are made up of concrete, salt, and water and this makes a solid state battery. To keep the battery alive you don't hook the load to it but hook the cell to a capacitor, then run the load off the capacitor. This type of battery can be shorted out for long periods of time and will return to the original power once short is removed.
        All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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        • #5
          Hey,

          What got me exposed to this a while back is this:

          Townsend Brown Battery Patent Application

          I believe the philosopher stone is real to some degree.

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          • #6
            Ib and All:
            When connecting cement batteries cells together to form a battery bank, these cell can also charge up anything that is connected to them. They can be connected both in series and in parallel, to obtain the needed voltage and some current also, although current is more restricted for some reason.
            My cells will also accept an additional charge if they are connected to a solar panel or a wall outlet adapter. But, I haven't had a chance to test that yet.
            Using only 6 cells, I can get 7 volts, and about 75 mA total current. That may limit of the amount of Current that these cells can produce, but I don't know. If more cells are connected in parallel, the current seams to level out at around 70 mA, but the voltage keeps going up by a volt or more with each additional cell added to the battery bank.
            They are a perpetual power supply. One cell doesn't do much, but 100 or more...
            I'm in the process of making a case (24) of the cement and beach-sand aluminum can battery cells, to see what they can do.
            I've connected a capacitor bank to these batteries, but the capacitors were all in parallel, and I did not see any advantage. I'll try the caps in series and see what happens.

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            • #7
              There is a big debate on these cells on if they're galvanic or not. When water is involved this question will come up and its a valid question. So what needs to be done is to make a cell that does not use any water as water will cause the corrosion of the metals. So you need something that is not water and would be great if it gets rid of water so that the plates don't corrode. I think I may have the answer, WD-40 does all of this.

              WD-40 does not contain water, displaces water, and will protect the plates from corrosion. I've made a cell out of quick-crete and WD-40, i'm just waiting for it to dry. Hooking the non-dried cell up to the meter does show voltage, very small voltage (100mV) but at least I know the voltage is not coming from the Galvanic reaction. I will see how this cell does when its fully dried out, it could be the ticket or it could be a dud. If WD-40 works it will be great proof that the energy is petrovoltaic and not galvanic.
              All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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              • #8
                Ib and All:
                If I break open up the aluminum cans of my cement beach-sand battery cells I find that the copper wire that's inside is all rusty from oxide, and pitted on the surface. So, they do break down, even the wire that is sealed inside the cement. As cement is caustic, even though I neutralize it by adding baking powder. Adding any Salt totally dissolve the aluminum cans, and turn them to dust.
                These cells can charge a capacitor. But there is no real advantage to charging capacitors, as a battery is really what you want to charge. The small lead acid batteries can take this type of charge very well, and it lasts even Longer, than a normal charge. So, there is something special about this type of electricity. But, corrosion does affect the cells in time.
                The more metal mass the cells are made with, the higher the mAs. While Voltage seams to stays at 1 to 2 volts, no matter what.

                I'm still working on making a cement battery bank of 24 aluminum beer cans (a case). The energy can be used to charge other batteries, as well as to take on a charge from a solar panel, which adds to their regular output. Capacitors may help to absorb or take in the juice from the cells and transfer it to rechargeable batteries.
                My newest cement beach sand cells can output 1. 4 volts, and 65 to 75 mAs (each cell). So, a case of them connected in series is 24 volts +, and at least 70 mA., or higher. Depending on the series or parallel connection. I find no problem connecting them is series, as well as in parallel, just like connecting solar cells together. But in parallel the mAs will not add up, I still don't know why this is.
                The idea is to balance the use of the energy (the load) so it doesn't drop the voltage or the current that is being outputted by the combined battery-cell bank. That's the trick. Without draining or killing the battery's output levels, but instead allowing it to work, 24/7, and still stay full, so to speak, all the time. That's where the Hartley type oscillators or backwards Jt may be of benefit, to keep the cells working voltage and current levels up. As these things are not really like batteries, but work more like permanent power cells.
                I've used WD40 to spray on the all the battery connections, but it is only a temporary fix, it does help to keep the corrosion down for a while.
                Water is not the only problem, as air causes the same thing. It's really the oxigen in the air that is causing metals to break down and oxidize. And water is made from it. All batteries seam to have that same problem, and it affects their connection points the most. Possibly using only stainless steel wire may work best to connect all the cells together. As both copper and aluminum will dissolve it time, unlike gold, or true 100% stainless steel wire.

                The picture below is of a capacitor can with my beach sand and cement mix, connected to a Jtc. It puts out 1.4 volts, and 55 mA. It can run a Jtc by itself just like the rest of my taller beer can cells can do, but it's almost half the size.
                Last edited by NickZ; 07-23-2011, 03:43 PM.

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