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  • Slider, are you still working on your fractal antenna for your RC plane?

    I found a website that gives you a comparison on different fractal models and their relation to design and wire length, hope this helps:

    These pages are devoted to the analysis of those forms known as Fractals. The list of designs to the left cover topics reviewed by myself in the rec.radio.amateur.antenna newsgroup. The designs are those presented to the newsgroup through web site http://www.seanet.com/~rwclark/kb7qhc in the Feb.-mar. period of 1997. This work was moved to this present location in 1998. The next significant overhaul came in the summer of 1999 when all designs were re-evaluated in the Constant Wire and Constant Height surveys.

    There is no attempt to pre-qualify any of the designs except by the most fundamental relationship of fractal form, wavelength and length of wire. The height of an antenna or amount of wire consumed in the construction of any particular design was chosen to be an easily scalable and resolvable value. The designs here in these pages generally have a value of 16, 32, or 64 meters. Now this value may be an expression of the height of a design, or the amount of wire consumed (the length of wire in the bends and turns). Through these constraints in size, come reduction in variables.

    The data reveals the shift of the resonance is positively correlated to the number of elements in the fractal form.

    Fractal Antennas

    and i believe it applies to everything i have been posting so far

    Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-18-2011, 07:16 PM.
    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • follow up on post: #235 http://www.energeticforum.com/147830-post235.html


      from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ng-bowl-4.html

      Originally posted by Armagdn03 View Post
      what is magic about the numbers Three Six and Nine?

      Sure Im preaching to the quire here, but one of the more interesting processes to understand, is how frequencies can create other frequencies. How they halve, double, etc. Make machines which can do this and you are way ahead of the curve. This can be done through superposition of waves creating beat frequencies, or through parametrics.

      For beat frequencies the rules of thumb are (f1+f2) and (f1-f2)

      Say we have frequencies 3 and 6 combine to give us 9 and 3 respectively. 9 is a new frequency....3 is now reinforced by a beat frequency of 3.

      now you have 3(3),6,9 which can combine to give frequencies:

      3 (again, 9-6)
      15 (9+6)
      6 (again 9-3)

      so we have the original 3, which has two beat frequencies now augmenting it, we have 6 which has a beat frequency augmenting it, we have nine (15-6), which has beat frequencies augmenting it, on and on down the line.

      3 6 and 9 are just a ratio, that creates this pattern of creation of frequencies which augment the original frequencies which created them.

      Harmonics Theory Physics and Maths
      Thank you , it is very enlightening ,

      thank you again Armagdn03
      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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      • to prove to you the many uses of the Emerald Tablet, think of what Edward Leedskalnin said

        As I said in the beginning, the North and South Pole magnets they are the cosmic force, they hold together this earth and everything on it.
        or magnetism if you prefer

        when you read this:

        It states:

        What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
        And all things sprang from this essence through a single projection. How marvelous is its work! It is the principle [sic] part of the world and its custodian.
        Its father is the sun and its mother is the moon. Thus the wind bore it within it and the earth nourished it.

        Now read the same above quote with this in mind

        WATER IN THE UNIVERSE

        The Paper

        Moon Has a Hundred Times More Water Than Thought

        Magmatic water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        see also what i posted a while back, you might be suprised :http://www.energeticforum.com/147486-post197.html
        Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-19-2011, 12:08 AM.
        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • I just wanted to point out an info i posted earlier:

          just a thought but if Dr Tesla was using a spherical grid instead in his Colorado Springs experiment[/COLOR], instead of a solid sphere (usually found in lab models) because he needed water inside the sphere found in the atmosphere... (just noticed this little detail)
          as for underground transmission:

          Magmatic water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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          • The data reveals the shift of the resonance is positively correlated to the number of elements in the fractal form.

            Fractal Antennas

            If you think out of the box, the shift of the resonance is positively correlated to the number of elements in the fractal form can also be applied to how you set up coils (strands and positioning), crystals etc...

            It applies to fractal forms you try to build
            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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            • at MonsieurM, Why do you post, repost, post again, quote entire posts, link to previous posts, post the same thing in 4 threads and more? I find this all quite misleading, and quite hard to follow.
              confused, Gene

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              • Originally posted by gene gene View Post
                at MonsieurM, Why do you post, repost, post again, quote entire posts, link to previous posts, post the same thing in 4 threads and more? I find this all quite misleading, and quite hard to follow.
                confused, Gene

                I'm sorry for this gene gene , unfortunately, not everyone reads all the threads, the way i see it, each is a different theme, but all converges, so sometimes one info can be applied to "sound but also to trees as well" I will definitely follow your advise and link to the post i wish u all to view. I asked myself the same question recently about all the info i found , and it was in a way a convergence of all the threads. as Ben Rich puts it:

                All points in time and space are connected?


                I'll see to it that in the future, i would be less confusing

                Btw: please feel free to ask me to clarify myself. The only way, you and i can advance in this research, is if we hold (all of us ) a dialogue ; and contribute a bit of information and questions. I learn at the same time as you learn

                thank you again Gene, I appreciate you letting me know
                Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-19-2011, 10:00 AM.
                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • it is until recently that all the threads started converging, i guess it is because i truly started to see the fractal in all these threads....which is a good sign, it reflects the theory of a fractal Universe
                  Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-19-2011, 10:23 AM.
                  Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                  • updated post: http://www.energeticforum.com/148195-post137.html

                    http://www.energeticforum.com/148190-post73.html



                    just a reminder, for those interested in this thread you can print each page in pdf using a pdf printer (search google)
                    Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-19-2011, 04:50 PM.
                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • Check out a post made by: antigraviticsystems1

                      http://www.energeticforum.com/148294-post132.html

                      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                      • Just had my first Eureka moment at http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post148371

                        starting from post #79

                        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • An interesting read, i highly recommend it:

                          Harmonic Resonance
                          by
                          Randall Cole ROFFE

                          The application of the principles of one science into another is often neglected. Today we have a massive and growing volume of experimentally proven information that certainly does not always
                          find its every application
                          . In the real world, we can work from scientific theory, through experimentation, into an engineered result, but just as often we work via reverse engineering, from the result back into the origin.

                          To view and contemplate the entire known electromagnetic spectrum as a whole,[/B (a fractal system ) and in terms of music and acoustics, or of color theory, is not a new concept. It has found expression in the
                          “music of the spheres” and other fanciful philosophies. The new concept here is to actually delineate the considerable volume of information about the vibration rates of all things in their various
                          states, and simply see if there is a pattern.
                          Randall Cole Roffe: Harmonic Resonance

                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • Hi All,

                            Back to tree's for a moment

                            I just stuck a few nails in the side of my 40 ft palm tree and a copper tube into the ground next to it. The result is a constant 0.5V and about 2.5mA in a direct short.

                            Can't find any of my little 1 farad super caps at the moment, but I'm sure I'll be able to fire up my joule thief when I do.

                            EverReady garden lights, Oh yeah!

                            Cheers,

                            Steve
                            You can view my vids here

                            http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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                            • Originally posted by dambit View Post
                              Hi All,

                              Back to tree's for a moment

                              I just stuck a few nails in the side of my 40 ft palm tree and a copper tube into the ground next to it. The result is a constant 0.5V and about 2.5mA in a direct short.

                              Can't find any of my little 1 farad super caps at the moment, but I'm sure I'll be able to fire up my joule thief when I do.

                              EverReady garden lights, Oh yeah!

                              Cheers,

                              Steve
                              Hello dambit, I am looking forward to hearing from your experiment

                              Back to tree's for a moment
                              Indeed Back to trees again , i follow the information i gather, lately it has been over Crystal and Water...but as Randall Cole ROFFE says:

                              The application of the principles of one science into another is often neglected. Today we have a massive and growing volume of experimentally proven information that certainly does not always
                              find its every application
                              In other words, when describing a fractal system (tree, radio antenna etc...), the principle remains the same
                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • MonsieurM,

                                What you said is true. Many areas of what we are all researching here do have connections which are quite often overlooked.

                                I'm off to Sydney for a few day for the boat show so I will be getting back to this "tree business" next week.

                                I was watching some of Bedini's youtube vids regarding his concrete beer can battery experiments and found them to be quite interesting. Would be a little easier to carry around than a tree battery.

                                Cheers,

                                Steve
                                You can view my vids here

                                http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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