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  • Could you elaborate so i can try to reproduce it ?
    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • A video i found on youtube about Caduceus Coil:

      The Hyper Dimensional Resonator use an 115V AC electric current to generate the magnetic field. This is rectified to DC by six rectifier diodes and sent via a caduceus coil to a copper magnet wire wound around a soft iron core. It is my belief that the caduceus coil generates scalar waves.
      YouTube - ‪HDR versus magnet‬‏

      YouTube - ‪Lenz's Law - Caduceus Coil - Bedini - Perpetual Motion Holder - Leedskalnin Montage‬‏
      Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-14-2011, 05:00 PM.
      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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      • Let's get back to our subject at hand: Trees as radiant energy collector

        I would like you to have a look at the following:

        Abstract --- An earth battery which includes a first electrode which is a veined material located in the earth, (a tree for instance) a second electrode electrically connected to the surface of the earth and disposed in a hole which extends from the surface of the earth into the first electrode, an electrolyte disposed in the hole and in contact with the first and second electrodes, and means for electrically connecting the first electrode to the surface of the earth. A seam of coal is preferred as the first electrode. A method of mining metals located in the earth using the earth battery and a method of drilling holes in the earth are also disclosed.


        list of all type of earth batteries:

        Earth Battery Patents

        see the first electrode (ie the tree )




        Justin CHRISTOFLEAU -- Electroculture book & patents


        Note: All these great discoverer have succeeded in reverse engineering Nature's work, and here we are trying to re-reverse engineer these great inventions in order to use Nature's Antennas to capture/transmit/converse/transport, and all it takes is the success of one experiment (a small Domino that is reproducible)- To you all Neo-Alchemist of modern times, you may not know it yet, but you are doing Nature's Work.


        Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-04-2011, 11:14 PM.
        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
          Could you elaborate so i can try to reproduce it ?
          Replace the mobius with simple coil, put capacitor in mobius end, and lastly, try without any copper wire at all.

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          • Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
            Replace the mobius with simple coil, put capacitor in mobius end, and lastly, try without any copper wire at all.

            Will do...

            note: what would you guys recommend for nonconductive strip, i was thinking electrical tape in several layers could make for some good insulating strip in the Mobius Resistance and for the conductive material maybe aluminum or just two copper wires


            Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-15-2011, 10:11 AM.
            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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            • Actually, I had an epiphany, I just thought of the perfect conducting material and actually it is something scientist just found out about and you can reproduce it....

              So for the Mobius Resistance, You'd Need:

              Electric Insulating Tape

              and GRAPHENE:

              Not only is graphene the thinnest possible material that is feasible, but it's also about 200 times stronger than steel and conducts electricity better than any material known to man—at room temperature.
              Graphene Will Change the Way We Live | Dr. Kaku's Universe | Big Think

              Here is a video on how to make Graphene, using your electrical Tape

              YouTube - ‪What is Graphene?‬‏

              YouTube - ‪Making Graphene 101, Ozyilmaz' Group‬‏

              YouTube - ‪Bottle plasma reactor - Part 1‬‏

              (there are more vid on youtube)
              Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-15-2011, 10:55 PM.
              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                Will do...

                note: what would you guys recommend for nonconductive strip, i was thinking electrical tape in several layers could make for some good insulating strip in the Mobius Resistance and for the conductive material maybe aluminum or just two copper wires
                Layering metal/insulation will do something else.

                I think copper and aluminium will produce different effect.

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                • Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                  Layering metal/insulation will do something else.

                  I think copper and aluminium will produce different effect.
                  So you are suggesting i try both designs, and see how it goes...
                  Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                  • As I was checking out Farmhand's experimentation , a question popped in my head, has anyone ever connected an oscilloscope to a tree and see what type of waveform it produces...Why you ask? Because if you can match that resonance/waveform , you'd be able to turn the tree into an antenna


                    also:

                    a couple of vid on Victor Schauberger: (it is in German, but watch the 1st vid starting at 8:00 min)

                    YouTube - ‪Victor Schauberger‬‏

                    YouTube - ‪Viktor Schauberger Die Natur kapieren und kopieren part 1 von 8‬‏



                    link:
                    Viktor Schauberger; the Water Wizard
                    Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-16-2011, 02:45 PM.
                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • updated http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post144480

                      As you will see I love to come up with new experiments (sorry for the overload, just need to put it out there maybe someone could benefit from it )

                      Richard DAVIS

                      Non-Inductive Resistor


                      The Problem:

                      To develop an electrical resistor that has no residual mutual- or self-inductance at high frequencies.

                      The Solution:

                      A Moebius strip made of insulated resistive materials with electrical leads attached directly opposite one another provides a noninductive, nonreactive resistor which is simple, inexpensive, and flexible in usage, and can be made to almost any desired size and shape....
                      ....Two ribbon conductors of equal length are affixed on opposite ends of a strip of dielectric. The assembly is then given a single twist and the ends are joined to form a Moebius surface. The ends of the conductors are soldered together and the resistor terminals are attached to the directly opposed solder joints. Current applied to the terminals will travel in opposite directions, so that the electromagnetic fields cancel each other, resulting in an essentially noninductive, nonreactive resistor with a low time constant. Bifilar wire may be used instead of resistive ribbon, eliminating the need for a center dielectric strip. Thin film conductors on flat surfaces can also be used to make Moebius resistors.

                      Two or more sets of resistive wire may be mounted laterally on the same nonconductive strip, with about 1/16-inch spacing, and connected to form multi-Moebius resistors in one unit. There is no change in the time constant of the individual resistors, nor does one in any way affect the operation of the others, even when they are assembled in parallel or series.

                      The performance of the Moebius resistor is unaffected by its form, size, or length. Once it is connected into a Moebius shape, it can be folded or around around a cylindrical core or a card, or even into a ball, resulting in compact packaging of the resistor for use in miniaturized circuits. The Moebius resistor does not couple to metallic objects, external fields, or itself. When the bridge is nulled the resistor can be handled or changed in form without disturbing the balance. The conductors must not be touched and the spacing between them must not be altered.



                      with:

                      Kelvin water dropper

                      The simplest setup for this is as pictured at right. A reservoir has two holes that drip water (or other liquid). The streams of dripping water each pass through a conducting ring (replace with one or two mobius strip), and land in a bucket. The buckets must be electrically isolated from each other and from their environment. Similarly, the rings must be electrically isolated from each other and their environment. The left ring is electrically connected with (wired to) the right bucket. And the right ring is wired to the left bucket. It is essential that each ring be placed around the point at which the stream of water passing through it first breaks into drops.

                      If the buckets are metal (conducting) the wires may be attached to the buckets. Otherwise, the bucket-end of each wire can just sit in its bucket, as long as it is contacting the water in the bucket.


                      Kelvin water dropper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                      also:

                      Large pulsed-power systems normally use a solid capacitive primary storage and a water capacitor for secondary storage. It is shown that the electrical breakdown strength is increased and the maximum storage time is enhanced from the microsecond level to the millisecond level when the water is replaced by a water/methanol mixture. The increased time scale in the second storage enables the use of an inductive primary storage. The mixing of methanol in the water decreases the relative permittivity. However, due to the increased electrical breakdown strength, a higher energy density is nevertheless possible. Previous work with water/ethylene glycol has manifested the problem of charge injection that occurs when energy is stored for millisecond time scales at high electrical stress. Water/methanol mixturesshow less tendency for charge injection and a better ability to store energy at millisecond time scales. © 2003 American Institute of Physics.
                      you could try also a water/methanol mixture Kelvin Experiment

                      or just a water/methanol Capacitor to charge the energy produced by the electrostastic created by water (or water/methanol) drops


                      YouTube - ‪Lord Kelvin Water Dropper/ Schauberger Waterthread Experiment‬‏

                      Schauberger take on Lord Kelvin Experiment

                      YouTube - ‪The Extraordinary Nature of Water -Viktor Schauberger 6/6‬‏

                      Dielectric Study of Water-methanol Mixtures for Use in Pulsed-power

                      http://www.el.angstrom.uu.se/Meny/ar...study%20of.pdf

                      Velocity Compression in Cylindrical Capacitor Electrospray of Methanol-Water Mixtures

                      http://www.gwu.edu/~vertes/publicat_html/ac990283h.pdf

                      note: from http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...er-coil-2.html

                      Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                      We made it horizontal. We use copper pipe to twist the water output to counter clockwise rotation, then to use the output to make a big clockwise water vortex on a bucket with small hole in the middle. Some people who try this report effects usually associated to m-state.
                      Have you tried the Kelvin Experiment on your M state Water?


                      Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-17-2011, 11:14 AM.
                      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                      • I would to introduce you to anther great Discoverer

                        Georges Lakhovsky


                        The Lakhovsky Coil


                        The content described experiments used to determine the origin of the life force. I was especially interested in the fact that back in the 1920's and 1930's machines were being developed which could heal with electrical oscillating waves and the manipulation of their frequencies. It was fascinating how Lakhovsky experimented on plants to determine what contributed to the development of disease in order to prove his theories.

                        He wanted to prove his theory that life giving radiation came from outside someone as opposed to the radiation coming from within. He developed an experiment using five plants and injected them with Cancer cells. He then waited until a cancerous knob grew on the sides of each plant. He then took one of the plants and put a copper wire around it with a dielectric stuck into the soil with the copper secured through the dielectric. He theorized that copper wire worked as a small oscillator. Within two weeks the plants without the copper wire had died. But, the plant with the copper wire around it was still OK. When he touched the Cancerous knob it fell off the plant. After a month the plant was totally healthy.
                        Other contributors to the Borderlands Handbook, such as Eric Dollard, Tom Brown, Peter Lindemann, Michael Theroux and Jorge Resines suggested circuit designs and materials that are probably closer to Lakhovsky's original equipment. The MWO Handbook is the best source of information that I'm aware of for building the Multi-Wave Oscillator. For more information about the MWO Handbook
                        Georges Lakhovsky, Bioelectric Pioneer

                        Lakhovsky Oscillating Coil

                        ---------

                        Noble Realms / Lakhovsky coils[

                        After reading up in the Integratron, I learned more about the healing device called "Multiple Wave Oscillator" by Lakhovsky. It was a set of concentric circular antennas connected to a Tesla coil (high voltage generator). The various circular antenna segments would send out specific wavelengths of energy. Here is a modern implementation:


                        same test (kelvin experiment) could be applied here, drops of water passing through the open ends

                        if my instinct is correct, you could stack a bunch of Lakhovsky coils on a tree ;the gap following the spiraling water tube

                        weird coincidence:



                        just a reminder:

                        George O. SQUIER

                        Tree Antennas






                        a diagrammatic view of a preferred form of an arrangement of transmission sets embodying my invention.



                        George O. Squier ~ Trees as Antennas ( Scientific American, June 14, 1919 & British Patent Specification # 149,917)


                        Patents by George O. Squire:

                        Apparatus for using telephone-subscribers' loops for transmission and reception of broadcasting
                        SQUIER GEORGE O
                        EC: H04H1/08 IPC: H04H1/08; H04H1/04
                        US1742422
                        1930-01-07

                        Apparatus for effecting electrical signaling
                        SQUIER GEORGE O; LOUIS COHEN
                        EC: H04L27/06 IPC: H04L27/06; H04L27/06
                        US1608252
                        1926-11-23

                        Aerial attachment device for radiofrequency signal systems
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H01Q1/46 IPC: H01Q1/46; H01Q1/44
                        Publication info: US1584197
                        1926-05-11

                        Electrical signaling
                        SQUIER GEORGE O; MAUBORGNE JOSEPH O
                        EC: H01F21/02 IPC: H01F21/02; H01F21/02
                        US1641608
                        1927-09-06

                        Apparatus for electrical signaling
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H04B1/034 IPC: H04B1/034; H04B1/02
                        US1531629
                        1925-03-31

                        Improvements in the Art of Telegraphy
                        SQUIER GEORGE OWEN; AUSTIN LOUIS WINSLOW
                        EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
                        GB108763
                        1917-08-23

                        Improvements in the Art of Electrical Signalling
                        SQUIER GEORGE; AUSTIN LOUIS WINSLOW
                        EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
                        GB108230
                        1917-08-02

                        Improvements in Duplex and Multiplex Telegraphy
                        SQUIER GEORGE; COHEN LOUIS
                        EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
                        GB103771
                        1917-02-08

                        Combined sound and light distributing apparatus
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: F21V33/00; H05K11/00 IPC: F21V33/00; H05K11/00; F21V33/00 (+1)
                        US1999579
                        1935-04-30

                        Radio signaling apparatus
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H04B3/56 IPC: H04B3/56; H04B3/54
                        US1791541
                        1931-02-10

                        Improvements in or relating to Receiving Systems for Radio Telegraphy or Telephony
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H01Q1/46; H04H1/04 IPC: H01Q1/46; H04H1/04; H01Q1/44 (+1)
                        GB191417487
                        1914-11-19

                        Improvements in or relating to Radio-telegraphic and Radio-telephonic Receiving Systems
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H04M11/06 IPC: H04M11/06; H04M11/06
                        GB191403191
                        1915-02-08

                        Improvements in or connected with Multiplex Telephony and Telegraphy
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
                        GB191030003
                        1911-12-27

                        Improvements in or relating to Receiving Systems for Radio Telegraphy or Telephony
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H01Q1/46; H04H1/04 IPC: H01Q1/46; H04H1/04; H01Q1/44 (+1)
                        GB191417487
                        1914-11-19

                        Improvements in or relating to Radio-telegraphic and Radio-telephonic Receiving Systems
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H04M11/06 IPC: H04M11/06; H04M11/06
                        GB191403191
                        1915-02-08

                        Improvements in or connected with Multiplex Telephony and Telegraphy
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H04J1/00 IPC: H04J1/00; H04J1/00
                        GB191030003
                        1911-12-27

                        Improvements in or connected with Telegraphic Apparatus
                        CREHORE ALBERT CUSHING (US); SQUIER GEORGE
                        GB189919867
                        1900-10-03

                        Improvements in Telegraphic Apparatus
                        CREHORE ALBERT CUSHING (US); SQUIER GEORGE
                        GB189918980
                        1900-09-20

                        Improvements in Telegraphic Apparatus
                        CREHORE ALBERT CUSHING (US); SQUIER GEORGE
                        GB189917722
                        1900-09-01

                        Improvements in Submarine Cable Telegraphs
                        CREHORE ALBERT C (US); SQUIER GEORGE
                        GB189823556
                        1900-02-08

                        Method and apparatus for using telephone subscribers' loops for transmission and reception of broadcasting
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        EC: H04B3/56; H04H1/04 IPC: H04B3/56; H04H1/04; H04B3/54 (+1)
                        FR644877
                        1927-10-16

                        TELEPHONE AND BROADCASTING SYSTEM
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        CA285479
                        1928-12-11

                        HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT SIGNALLING
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        CA244330
                        1924-11-11

                        ELECTRIC SIGNALLING SYSTEM
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        CA233299
                        1923-08-07

                        TREE TELEPHONY AND TELEGRAPHY
                        SQUIER GEORGE
                        CA232487
                        1923-07-03

                        with the knowledge we have today i think we can improve on GEORGE SQUIER's invention

                        wouldn't it be awesome to talk to your family using a tree
                        Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-17-2011, 03:02 PM.
                        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • TIME LAPSE:

                          oak tree

                          YouTube - ‪One Year Time Lapse, Oak Tree Timelapse‬‏

                          vortex motion and spiral climbing by Vine (nature at its best )

                          YouTube - ‪Twining motion of vines‬‏

                          doc on plant's strength (i would recommend you watch the whole doc, but i don't know if you have the patience of sitting through a doc in french) just watch from 5:00 min to 6:00 min pay attention to the wave like shapes

                          YouTube - ‪La force cachè�e des plantes - Comme des bè‚tes (arte)‬‏

                          side note

                          a Carnivorous plant (notice the cone shape, if you look closely it follows a spiral )



                          Rat-eating plant named after David Attenborough | Mail Online

                          Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-17-2011, 03:34 PM.
                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • MonsieurM,

                            Do appreciate your posts.

                            Have you seen:

                            The Secret Life Of Plants (part 1 of 11) - Music by Stevie Wonder
                            YouTube - ‪The Secret Life Of Plants (part 1 of 11) - Music by Stevie Wonder‬‏

                            You will see a Japanese lady teaching a plant to speak.

                            Also did you pull down the Nassim Haramein Black Whole 2011 movie that Ashweth posted:

                            http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post144231

                            IndianaBoys

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                            • Thank you IndianaBoys ,

                              I will definitely check them out, good addition to our research
                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                                Have you tried the Kelvin Experiment on your M state Water?
                                Don't they both produce charged water?

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