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  • Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
    Please help me solve the riddle : why is water a liquid ? - it shouldn't be !
    Could you elaborate a little and I 'll gladly join your quest for answers

    i could refer you to the image in my first post, you'll see the water molecule (http://www.energeticforum.com/new-me...dic-table.html )

    TETRAHEDRON MOLECULES (all of the molecules presented here where found on the internet)

    Some can be found in the following website WebElements Periodic Table of the Elements



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    Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-21-2011, 08:31 PM.
    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • If you allow me to suggest that your answer lies in the Hydrogen Atom and if you look at Walter Russell's table of element and Mendeleev's original Table as it was pointed out to me by khabe , You'll see that Hydrogen occupies a special place in the table of elements for it is as i put it in the above mentioned thread :

      I chose Hydrogen as the beginning because H is the most abundant element in the universe and it also fit the idea of "All comes from one, and all goes to one"
      sounds fractal

      Hydrogen is your hyphen between "ether" and matter, this is my personal opinion, but i do believe your answer lies with hydrogen

      read this post it may help in your research

      http://www.energeticforum.com/144662-post54.html

      Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-21-2011, 08:49 PM.
      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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      • Scientists believe that the structure of liquid water consists of aggregates of water molecules that form and re-form continually
        so this is your adaptive fractal antenna (Liquid Antenna), and the adaptive part comes from the hydrogen bonds

        H2O - The Mystery, Art, and Science of Water: Facts

        -------

        Triple point of water

        The single combination of pressure and temperature at which liquid water, solid ice, and water vapour can coexist in a stable equilibrium occurs at exactly 273.16 K (0.01 °C) and a partial vapour pressure of 611.73 pascals (ca. 6.1173 millibars, 0.0060373 atm). At that point, it is possible to change all of the substance to ice, water, or vapor on making arbitrarily small changes in pressure and temperature. Even if the total pressure of a system is well above triple point of water, provided the partial pressure of the water vapour is 611.73 pascals then the system can still be brought to the triple point of water. Strictly speaking, the surfaces separating the different phases should also be perfectly flat, to abnegate the effects of surface tensions.
        side note

        From the info I have posted so far (and if you do a little research ), you 'll see that there is a trend that appears, and that is for every fractal structure you have seen in nature/universe, the presence of water comes hand in hand


        how to make a fractal antenna

        http://rexmo.net/pdf/How_to_make_a_f..._DTV_plus_.pdf

        plunge it in water, you'll multiply its reception

        Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-21-2011, 10:44 PM.
        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • http://ewamalecka.republika.pl/images/uklad.gif

          Please analyse group Chalcogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia hydrides
          (Hydride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) at 20 Celsius (normal state)

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          • thank you Boguslaw

            i guess we could add this to your info:

            Electrochemistry of the Chalcogens

            Because of their multiple oxidation states, the chalcogens, particularly sulfur, can engage in numerous redox couples participating in acid–base, oxidation–reduction, precipitation, and complexation equilibria.
            http://www.springer.com/cda/content/...701-p173923704



            We know that water holds the key, but if you can clarify your thoughts, it would be helpful.

            I'll go first, (not taking into account the chalcogen group or any other group) we know that mercury at normal temperature is liquid:

            Mercury is the only metal that is liquid at standard conditions for temperature and pressure; the only other element that is liquid under these conditions is bromine
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(element)

            just what if we are looking at it the wrong way , just a supposition, but what if we considered water as a liquid metal, i mean it does have some of the properties of metal....let me know what you think.

            Sometimes by changing your point of reference, the answer becomes crystal clear....
            Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-22-2011, 12:50 PM.
            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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            • Synergetics:

              Synergetics: A metaphoric language for communicating experiences using geometric concepts.

              Thinking is the tuning in/out of systems. Systems are spherical networks of interrelated points of interest. The density of points is a measure of a system's ``frequency'' -- super high frequency systems approach sphericity.

              The minimal system with the fewest possible points is a tetrahedron -- four points make a primitive volume with an inside and an outside. The canonical tetrahedron has a volume of one.

              The tetrahedron may be sliced into 24 irregular tetrahedra (12 left handed, 12 right handed) called ``A modules.'' The octahedron is comprised of 48 A and 48 B modules of equal volume = 4 x the volume of the tetrahedron. A and B modules may be used to assemble the cube (3 tetravolumes), rhombic dodecahedron (6 tetravolumes), and the Coupler (1 tetravolume). The Coupler, with the same volume as the tetrahedron (1), is an irregular octahedron that packs together to fill space without gaps.

              Radiation is explosive outwardly while Gravitation is an implosive squeezing at 90 degrees to Radiation, i.e. is circumferential. Metaphysically, Gravity networks points of interest into systems of interrelated thoughts while Radiation drains away the sense of our systems and turns them into meaningless noise. Radiation is compression, Gravity is tension. Radiation is Entropy. Gravity is Love. Clearly this is not Physics but a more metaphorical language for communicating experiences using geometric concepts. This is Synergetics....
              ...These are the three omni-triangulated, omni-symmetrical, stable, space structures in Universe. The tetra has 4 vertices (crossings), 6 edges (vectors) and 4 faces (openings). The octa has 6 crossings, 12 vectors, and 8 openings. The icosa has 12 crossings, 30 vectors, and 20 openings. The Greeks called these three figures ``platonic solids.'' They are very important in synergetics.

              [From Vincent J. Matsko]

              For those interested in group theory, from a group theoretical perspective, we can view the symmetry groups of the tetrahedron and the octahedron as subgroups of the symmetry group of the icosahedron (with reflections included) - so that, in a sense, the tetrahedron and octahedron are ``children'' of the icosahedron.
              The R. Buckminster Fuller FAQ: Synergetics

              ------

              from my first post: (i haven't had time to perfect it but you get the idea)



              Elements Hydrogen to silicon are “ruled” by the Tetrahedron
              Elements Silicon to Rhodium are “ruled” by the Hexahedron
              Elements Rhodium to end of page are “ruled” be the Octahedron
              Elements Alphanon are ruled by the Dodecahedron
              Elements Betanon to Hydrogen By the Icosahedrons
              the reason the tetrahedron is followed by the hexahedron and so on... is due to the synergetics concentric hierarchy of shapes which states

              Synergetic geometry, pioneered by the late American Transcendentalist R. Buckminster Fuller, is centered around a volumetric hierarchy of concentric polyhedra.

              Two expansive/contractive transformations, a positive and negative, or left and right, are anchored on either side of cosmic zero, the origin. This "bow tie Universe" is the aconceptual context.

              The transformations, modeled by the so-called jitterbug, involve expanding outward from nothing to a volume 24 cube, then squeezing back down to zero, before exploding outwardly again, this time in a "through the looking glass" context.




              links:

              Concentric Hierarchy (Part 2)
              http://www.energeticforum.com/new-me...dic-table.html

              hence the possibility of transmuting elements from one geometric figure to another (how that is the 64k dollars question)

              check this out:

              Roberto A. Monti. Experiments in Cold Fusion and Cold Fission


              According to the Alpha-extended model of the atom (1) heavier elements are made from lighter elements by low energy transmutations (cold fusion).
              Vice versa, lighter elements can be produced by Cold Fission of heavier elements: Cold Fusion and Cold Fission are complementary and reversible processes.
              In this paper I shall discuss the results of one experiment of Cold Fusion and one experiment of Cold Fission.
              It fits the synergetics theory

              TRANSMUTATION RECIPES FOR MAKING GOLD

              http://www.lowenergytransmutations.o...ld_Fission.doc

              you have to walk outside the realm of Chemistry and into the realm of geometry, to completely understand the life of the elements.

              and still, you will ask me why water is liquid then ? I could tell you that if you consider water to be the best adaptable fractal antenna,for it to be "the best" adaptable, the liquid form is the way to go. But i know this is not a good enough answer....
              Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-23-2011, 11:16 AM.
              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • MODELING WATER MOVEMENT IN HORIZONTAL COLUMNS USING FRACTAL THEORY(1)

                Fractal mathematics has been used to characterize
                water and solute transport in porous media (Arya et
                al., 1999; Pachepsky et al., 2000) and also to
                characterize and simulate porous media properties
                (Anderson et al., 2000)
                . From a non-fractal perspective,
                the position of any volumetric water content within a
                porous media column can be characterized by:
                x = λ(θ).tn (1)
                where x = Vertical distance within the column [L], λ
                = Boltzmann variable [L T-n], t = Elapsed time [T], n
                = Time exponent, and θ = Porous media water content
                [L3 L-3].
                Similarly, the process of one-dimensional
                infiltration of water into a uniform soil as a function
                of time can be characterized by the Philip (1957)
                equation:
                I = S.tn (2)
                where I = Cumulative one-dimensional infiltration [L],
                and S = Sorptivity [L T-n].
                In both (Equations 1 and 2) the time exponent (n)
                was fixed at 0.5 (Clothier & Scotter, 2002). However
                in fractal characterization of water movement
                processes in the soil, the time empirical coefficient
                was estimated statistically, along with other hydraulic
                properties (Guerrini & Swartzendruber, 1994;
                Pachepsky & Timlin, 1998).
                http://www.scielo.br/pdf/rbcs/v34n4/42.pdf

                A Fractal Model of Mountains with Rivers A Fractal Model of Mountains with Rivers | Mendeley

                As I said before, water is a fractal adaptive antenna

                note: i know that some of you grow their own vegetables or have a farm, i would highly suggest vortexing your water before you water your plants. Being an adaptive antenna, water will have a tendency of absorbing previous frequencies (ie:memory see post: http://www.energeticforum.com/144822-post133.html ) of where it has been, in order for you to "format" that memory, vortexing it will do the job. As an added bonus, you'd be using less water (since also the water is more oxygenated )

                I know that a lot of research has been done to show a difference between bio and non bio (so far no reel data has proven a major difference) but if we look closer at the resonance of a tomato grown biologically, for instance, and another one grown the standard way, i bet you that the differences would be major (just for the fact that water has memory and imprint itself with the chemicals it gets in contact with)

                ps: I eat all type of foods (just so you know ) but now....

                Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-22-2011, 02:07 PM.
                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • Ok.I will be perfectly clear.Why is water a liquid at normal state ? It HAS TO BE GAS according to chemistry of this group hydrides. Something is holding is (fortunately) in the liquid state for us.
                  Now recall Stanley Meyer water fuel cell - it was turned down as a fuel replacement and I also dislike this idea. Instead we should find a way to convert water into gas cheaply and back to water. Such process if done properly will be THE BEST purification and also produce electric current by EEC (electron extraction circuit)

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                  • From NASA

                    The Nuclear Liquid--Gas Phase Transition in the Light of Synergetics
                    Zwieglinski, B.
                    Acta Physica Polonica B, vol. 33, Issue 1, p.141
                    The nuclear liquid--gas phase transition is treated as the phenomenon of spontaneous symmetry breaking. A quasistationary state is formed at the end of nucleon--nucleon cascade in the residue, possessing the spherical symmetry, same as the projectile and target had in their ground states. This symmetry is broken in the course of fragment formation stage, at the end of which emerges a multi-cluster configuration. The nuclear liquid--gas phase transition is thus inscribed onto the list of critical phenomena considered by synergetics.
                    http://www.iaea.org/inis/collection/...0/33070847.pdf


                    Prof. René-Louis Vallée Synergetic Generator

                    THE VSG experiment

                    This experiment is fully based on the Prof René-Louis Vallée Synergetic theory (1). The purpose of this experiment is to find a simple and reproducible device which is able to produce the nuclear reaction claimed by the Prof R.L. Vallée. The main material used in this device is a pure carbon rod. Here, the carbon is not consummed by the reaction, it acts as a pump Vs the Vacuum EM energy.

                    So, according to the Prof R.L. Vallée theory, the required condition to get the Synergetic effect is :

                    1. To align the fields of the electrons and the nucleus of the carbon atoms by the use of a colinear E-Field and B-Field,
                    2. the energy of external photons (g) is used to absorb the kinetic energy of the electrons,
                    3. so, the stopped electrons can be attracted by the carbon nucleus,
                    4. a nuclear reaction begins: the Carbon is transmutted into radioactive Boron (which has a radioactive decay of 20ms)
                    5. then, the vacuum energy is tapped by the nucleus and the Boron is transmuted back to Carbon while a strong pulse of 13 Mev is sent (see the reaction below) .
                    Prof René-Louis Vallée -- Synergetic Generator

                    Roberto A. Monti. Experiments in Cold Fusion and Cold Fission

                    According to the Alpha-extended model of the atom (1) heavier elements are made from lighter elements by low energy transmutations (cold fusion).
                    Vice versa, lighter elements can be produced by Cold Fission of heavier elements: Cold Fusion and Cold Fission are complementary and reversible processes.
                    In this paper I shall discuss the results of one experiment of Cold Fusion and one experiment of Cold Fission.
                    It fits the synergetics theory

                    TRANSMUTATION RECIPES FOR MAKING GOLD

                    http://www.lowenergytransmutations.o...ld_Fission.doc

                    Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-22-2011, 02:43 PM.
                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • Stereochemistry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                      Stereochemistry, a subdiscipline of chemistry, involves the study of the relative spatial arrangement of atoms within molecules. An important branch of stereochemistry is the study of chiral molecules.[1]

                      Stereochemistry is also known as 3D chemistry because the prefix "stereo-" means "three-dimensionality".[2]

                      The study of stereochemical problems spans the entire range of organic, inorganic, biological, physical and supramolecular chemistries.

                      Stereochemistry includes methods for determining and describing these relationships; the effect on the physical or biological properties these relationships impart upon the molecules in question, and the manner in which these relationships influence the reactivity of the molecules in question (dynamic stereochemistry).
                      read page 9:

                      LOW ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTIONS: THE REVIVAL OF ALCHEMY

                      http://www.multibase.it/allegati/low...petersburg.pdf
                      Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-22-2011, 02:43 PM.
                      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                      • BogusLaw, There is a major point i'd like to make:

                        I don't think we have to look very far, I am sorry if I dumped on you a whole bunch of informations, but it is this way that i can get to narrow down my hypotheses. I think i have your answer, unfortunately I can't prove it because it has not been researched enough....


                        O.R.M.E which give water its Mstate...my previous post:

                        if you want an answer about why water is liquid, you have to consider all aspects of water

                        http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...er-coil-2.html

                        David Hudson: ORMEs Patent

                        This invention relates to the monoatomic forms of certain transition and noble metal elements, namely, gold, silver, copper, cobalt, nickel and the six platinum group elements. More particularly, this invention relates to the separation of the aforesaid transition and noble metal elements from naturally occurring materials in their orbitally rearranged monoatomic forms, and to the preparation of the aforesaid transition and noble metal elements in their orbitally rearranged monoatomic forms from their commercial metallic forms. The materials of this invention are stable, substantially pure, non-metallic-like forms of the aforesaid transition and noble metal elements, and have a hereto unknown electron orbital rearrangement in the "d", "s", and vacant "p" orbitals. The electron rearrangement bestows upon the monoatomic elements unique electronic, chemical, magnetic, and physical properties which have commercial application.
                        Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-23-2011, 11:56 AM.
                        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • Francis E. WILKINSON: High-Frequency Transformations

                          Dancing electrons, whipped to a jitterbug frenzy, are performing miracles of modern alchemy in a backyard laboratory at Glendale CA. Racing back and forth through coils of wire at frequencies up to 100 megahertz, they transform water, natural gas, cottonseed waste, and potato peelings into new and useful substances for industry.
                          More on this:

                          Francis E. WILKINSON -- High Frequency Transformations

                          -------

                          John KANZIUS Salt Water-Fuel


                          SANIBEL ISLAND, Fla. -- A Florida man may have accidentally invented a machine that could solve the gasoline and energy crisis plaguing the U.S., WPBF News 25 reported.

                          Sanibel Island resident John Kanzius is a former broadcast executive from Pennsylvania who wondered if his background in physics and radio could come in handy in treating the disease from which he suffers: cancer.

                          Kanzius, 63, invented a machine that emits radio waves in an attempt to kill cancerous cells while leaving normal cells intact. While testing his machine, he noticed that his invention had other unexpected abilities.

                          Filling a test tube with salt water from a canal in his back yard, Kanzius placed the tube and a paper towel in the machine and turned it on. Suddenly, the paper towel ignited, lighting up the tube like it was a wax candle.
                          -----

                          this maybe your best way to go if you want to split water, of course it needs some experimenting first:

                          A MUST READ

                          Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles

                          Can a magnet take water to pieces? No, say physics textbooks. Yes, says Prof. Felix Ehrenhaft, former director of the Physical Institute at the University of Vienna, who now carries on his research in New York. If he should turn out to be right, his findings in the realm of magnetism promise practical applications as far-reaching as the dynamos, motors, transformers, telephones, and radio that have stemmed from Faraday’s research in electricity....
                          .....There is an interesting sidelight to this experiment. A strong permanent magnet of the Alnico type suffers a marked loss of strength --- say, 10% in 24 hours --- after being used to decompose water, Dr Ehrenhaft observes. In fact, makers of the magnets, which are supposed to last for years without material change, have viewed what happens to them with astonishment and dismay. But no fault lies with their products. Energy from an electric battery is used up in decomposing water, and it would be only reasonable to expect energy stored in up in a permanent magnet to be drained likewise.What gives the utmost significance to the reported feat of breaking up water with a magnet is the fresh evidence it offers for the existence of "magnetic current", or a flow of magnetically charged particles, which has been suspected by noted pioneers and which Dr Ehrenhaft now maintains he has proved. Confirmation of this amazing discovery would point to a possible future rival of electric current (TESLA), perhaps capable of being harnesses in undreamed-of ways.


                          -------

                          Solar power without solar cells: A hidden magnetic effect of light could make it possible


                          Light has electric and magnetic components. Until now, scientists thought the effects of the magnetic field were so weak that they could be ignored. What Rand and his colleagues found is that at the right intensity, when light is traveling through a material that does not conduct electricity, the light field can generate magnetic effects that are 100 million times stronger than previously expected. Under these circumstances, the magnetic effects develop strength equivalent to a strong electric effect. from the article
                          an example of future application for this would be the Magnetic Fridge

                          Inside IT: A cool new idea from British scientists: the magnetic fridge | Technology | The Guardian

                          -------

                          Davey's sonic heater

                          The design of the Davey's sonic heater is extremely simple. It actually is composed of two major parts only - see Figure K8 (3) from monograph [1/4]. The most important out of these two parts is a resonating hemispherical bowl (1) made of a sound inducing metal plate. The second part is a buffering hemispherical bowl (2) almost identical in shape to the bowl (1). This second bowl has the radius around 4 mm larger than the resonating hemispherical bowl (1). Both bowls are assembled symmetrically one around the other, means the hemispherical bowl (1) is placed inside of the hemispherical bowl (2). Coin is 32 mm wide = 1.25984 inches / Big bowl approximately 1.75 inches wide and .75 inches thick / Small bowl approximately 1 3/8 inches wide. Of course, apart from these two bowls, the heater also includes a long rod, nuts, washers, and electrical wires. These are to hold it together, to supply electricity to both bowls, and to allow the heater to be submerged into water that it heats. But these other parts are marginal additions only. The major parts are the bowls. During experimental production of this heater, the resonating hemispherical bowl (1) usually is made from an old cover for a bicycle bell. The dimensions of this hemispherical bowl are not important. It is only vital that it falls into a sonic resonance at the frequency of 50 Hertz, and that it has the outer surface which is parallel and equidistant from the external buffering hemispherical bowl (2). To each of these two bowls a different wire of the household electricity supply (i.e. 220 V, 50 Hz) is connected. The heater must be submerged in water that it heat. It brings water to the boiling point extremely fast. More details about the design and operation of this sonic heater is provided in subsection K3.3 from volume 10 of monograph [1/4]. After being constructed, the Davey's telekinetic heater must be "tuned" in two different manners. The first tuning depends on providing the hemispherical bowl (1) with such frequency of the own oscillations, that makes this bowl to resonate acoustically when a sound of the frequency 50 Hertz is emitted nearby. The second tuning of the heater depends on appropriate selecting the distance "L" between both bowls (1) and (2). On this distance depends the formation of the standing wave between both bowls. Thus it decides about the energy efficiency of the entire heater. From the information that the inventor repeated to me, I gather that the measurements carried out by New Zealand scientists suggested that this heater may consume even less than the equivalent for around 5% of the energy that it generates in form of heat. This would indicate, that the electrical efficiency of this heater is around 2000%.
                          ------

                          the system has become fractal in frequency.

                          moe-joe-cell





                          Official Website of The Moe-Joe Cell Spherical 316 Non-Magnetic Stainless Steel Joe Cell


                          please read

                          http://www.energeticforum.com/141282-post541.html

                          http://www.energeticforum.com/135946-post17.html

                          http://www.energeticforum.com/136257-post20.html

                          http://www.energeticforum.com/136258-post21.html

                          you'll find plenty of similarities with previous experiments, i have posted....

                          From NASA

                          The Nuclear Liquid--Gas Phase Transition in the Light of Synergetics
                          Zwieglinski, B.
                          Acta Physica Polonica B, vol. 33, Issue 1, p.141
                          The nuclear liquid--gas phase transition is treated as the phenomenon of spontaneous symmetry breaking. A quasistationary state is formed at the end of nucleon--nucleon cascade in the residue, possessing the spherical symmetry, same as the projectile and target had in their ground states. This symmetry is broken in the course of fragment formation stage, at the end of which emerges a multi-cluster configuration. The nuclear liquid--gas phase transition is thus inscribed onto the list of critical phenomena considered by synergetics.
                          http://www.iaea.org/inis/collection/...0/33070847.pdf


                          Prof. René-Louis Vallée Synergetic Generator

                          THE VSG experiment

                          This experiment is fully based on the Prof René-Louis Vallée Synergetic theory (1). The purpose of this experiment is to find a simple and reproducible device which is able to produce the nuclear reaction claimed by the Prof R.L. Vallée. The main material used in this device is a pure carbon rod. Here, the carbon is not consumed by the reaction, it acts as a pump Vs the Vacuum EM energy.

                          similar function to the e beam reactor of Michael John Nunnerley (http://www.energeticforum.com/145027-post548.html )

                          So, according to the Prof R.L. Vallée theory, the required condition to get the Synergetic effect is :

                          1. To align the fields of the electrons and the nucleus of the carbon atoms by the use of a colinear E-Field and B-Field,
                          2. the energy of external photons (g) is used to absorb the kinetic energy of the electrons,
                          3. so, the stopped electrons can be attracted by the carbon nucleus,
                          4. a nuclear reaction begins: the Carbon is transmutted into radioactive Boron (which has a radioactive decay of 20ms)
                          5. then, the vacuum energy is tapped by the nucleus and the Boron is transmuted back to Carbon while a strong pulse of 13 Mev is sent (see the reaction below) .
                          Prof René-Louis Vallée -- Synergetic Generator

                          Roberto A. Monti. Experiments in Cold Fusion and Cold Fission

                          According to the Alpha-extended model of the atom (1) heavier elements are made from lighter elements by low energy transmutations (cold fusion).
                          Vice versa, lighter elements can be produced by Cold Fission of heavier elements: Cold Fusion and Cold Fission are complementary and reversible processes.
                          In this paper I shall discuss the results of one experiment of Cold Fusion and one experiment of Cold Fission.
                          It fits the synergetics theory

                          TRANSMUTATION RECIPES FOR MAKING GOLD

                          http://www.lowenergytransmutations.o...ld_Fission.doc



                          each color ( {fractal }frequency range) corresponds to a platonic solid

                          [QUOTE]

                          i hope that after you read these descriptions of the various experiments, it inspires you to borrow some of the concepts from each and mash it up into something new ; each of these experiments contains a piece of the puzzle for what you want to do (split, burn, capture energy, make a capacitor with water)

                          just let your inspiration run...


                          Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-23-2011, 11:46 AM.
                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • FYI:

                            Music and Geometry:
                            Standing Waves form Platonic Solids

                            "In 3D standing waves, a structure, with all characteristics of a platonic solid, is formed for each standing wave mode. Within an atom, which is the building block of matter, the platonic solid is not formed by salt or known particles, but by electromagnetic waves in vacuum.

                            Both the students of Buckminster Fuller and his protege Dr. Hans Jenny devised clever experiments that showed how the Platonic Solids would form within a vibrating / pulsating 3D sphere.


                            link:

                            Vibrations, Harmonics, Resonance, Waves and Reality




                            According to the Alpha-extended model of the atom (1) heavier elements are made from lighter elements by low energy transmutations (cold fusion).
                            Vice versa, lighter elements can be produced by Cold Fission of heavier elements: Cold Fusion and Cold Fission are complementary and reversible processes.
                            In this paper I shall discuss the results of one experiment of Cold Fusion and one experiment of Cold Fission.
                            a pictural analogy of this is: Russian Doles



                            and vice versa

                            ps: look at the end of walter russell's table of element:

                            end and the beginning (beginning on a bigger scale for it is fractal like the spiral )


                            normal high frequency changes water
                            Last edited by MonsieurM; 06-23-2011, 11:47 AM.
                            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                            • Is hydrogen bonding strongest between molecules of H20 H2S H2Se or H2Te?
                              H20, because it is the only hydrogen bond. Hydrogen bonds result from the dipole attractions of adjacent molecules of H and either O,F, or N. None of the other molecules mentioned contain an O,F, or N atom.

                              Is hydrogen bonding strongest between molecules of H20 H2S H2Se or H2Te? - Yahoo! Answers

                              there are many ways to extract energy from water:

                              you can split it
                              you can use it to store energy (capacitor)
                              you can use it to capture energy (tree a radiant energy collector )

                              you can burn it (YouTube - ‪Salt Water into Fuel‬‏ )
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