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  • Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post
    I'm going to re-read the Colorado Springs notes and see if his experiments were leading to or derived from fractal ergonomics (there's a new phrase for ya lol). The both aesthetically pleasing and most efficient designs. Does ugly design simply not work ? does beauty within a design derive from function ?
    He seemed quite lost at some points, referring to experiments having notable effects that would have to be investigated further at some later time.
    It seems to me that he was experiencing the evolution of thought surrounding a lot of what has been recently talked about.

    Relating the Tesla coil to trees - in nature we don't find skinny trunks with huge branches, we don't find thick trunks and 2 or 3 branches. Trees tend to balance out with ratios. Might get thin trunks, but will always get thin branches with them etc.
    The fractal dissipations of their design must follow some ratio or other, Fibonacci or otherwise. Tesla has so many calculations (of which i'm rubbish at deciphering) that some must relate to both coils and trees.
    all for adopting this new expression

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    actually you have 2 clues: you know that everything and i mean everything is fractal, so you know what to look for (ie:self similarities etc...) and it must obey :

    fractal/constructal system:

    The constructal law puts forth the idea that the generation of design (configuration, pattern, geometry) in nature is a physics phenomenon that unites all animate and inanimate systems, and that this phenomenon is covered by the Constructal Law stated by Adrian Bejan in 1996: "For a finite-size (flow) system to persist in time (to live), its configuration must evolve such that it provides easier access to the imposed currents that flow through it."
    in other words, it should obey the


    E=M3/4

    It is called Kleiber's Law.

    It states that the energy needed by an organism at rest (not doing any specific exercise), is not proportional to its mass, but sub-linear.

    It can be attributed to many factors and one of them is that the more massive an organism/element/wave is, the less surface per volume it present. If the organism is represented par a sphere of diameter D, volume scale with D^3, but surface scales with D^2. But energy produced by the body is proportional to volume, while energy lost is proportional to external surface.
    Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-15-2011, 10:41 AM.
    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...rystals-2.html

      Originally posted by shawnnweed View Post
      This is light ethericity being converted into a stable and usable form so similar to electricty that the device requiring energy can not differentiate.
      I would differ with you on this, I do not think of ethericity as being "converted" but scaled down (or up maybe)to a fractal level where we can harness it.

      think of the pyramid as an ethericity spiderweb (which is also fractal ) that captures that fast flying energy and slow it down (or scaled down) to a useful energy for us

      note: your silk is The Law of Octaves that you use to build your spiderweb

      see http://www.energeticforum.com/new-me...tml#post147475
      Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-15-2011, 11:25 AM.
      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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      • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
        there is a wealth of data that could be extrapolated from the socionomics documents into applications for Ethericity, such as the 62% / 38% ratio constantly found in the research they conducted (http://www.energeticforum.com/genera...tml#post147637 ) (starts at 42 min )


        also from the doc

        it takes 3 waves to make a variation


        If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
        — Nikola Tesla
        also from the doc

        it takes 3 waves to make a variation
        or three coils that create 3 waves



        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • from:http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post147753

          side note:

          we are all fractal antenna searching for a good fractal resonance (ie: music) remember that every song is an overlapping of various waves ((ie fractal frequency ) that is why we love music...



          if we consider a band/orchestra as one instrument, wouldn't it be a multiphonic instrument like the singing bowl
          , with you in the role of water:

          Tibetan Singing Bowls Make Water Levitate (Video)

          Before It's News

          An experimental investigation of the fluid dynamics of Tibetan singing bowls has showed their acoustic behavior is similar to wine glasses, and can even cause water droplets to levitate.

          The bowls originate from fifth century rituals in the Tibetan Himalayas, and are typically made from a bronze alloy. They produce a rich sound or song when the sides and rim are struck or rubbed with a mallet.

          Two scientists filled the bowls with water and filmed the vibrational patterns that arise. The high-speed camera showed how surface waves formed, creating water droplets that break away from, and bounce on the fluid surface.
          YouTube - ‪Watching Tibetan bowls sing‬‏

          now compare the previous video to this one (note: this is not my type of music so you can lower a bit the volume, but watch starting at 1:40 min, how the movement of the people corresponds to the water droplets in the singing bowl

          ‪The Best Of Tiesto Concert (High Quality)‬‏ - YouTube


          note: the same applies for music and plants and so we meet in this journey of discovery:

          Dr Masaru Emoto

          Until the groundbreaking work of a pioneer Japanese researcher whose astonishing discovery about water, documented photographically, changed most of what we didn’t know…and led to a new consciousness of Earth’s most precious resource.

          Dr. Masaru Emoto was born in Japan and is a graduate of the Yokohama Municipal University and the Open International University as a Doctor of Alternative Medicine. His photographs were first featured in his self-published books Messages from Water 1 and 2. The Hidden Messages in Water was first published in Japan, with over 400,000 copies sold internationally.
          Water Crystals after listening to Healing Music!



          Water Crystals | Nature is the Best Designer




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          side note: I have been talking about fractal for quite a while now, and hopefully convinced some of you, I just wanted your opinion for i think that Carl Sagan was already talking about the universe being fractal, just watch the first 10 min of this video.... pay attention to the choice of words

          ‪Cosmos: A Personal Voyage - Episode 1 (Carl Sagan)‬‏ - YouTube

          Btw: it was made in the 80's
          Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-15-2011, 03:37 PM.
          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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          • Slider, what if the following picture also corresponded to a combination for bedini coils as well, it would go something like, coils get pulsed in the following order:

            coils 3 6 9
            2 5 8
            1 4 7



            let me know what you think

            you have

            Cycles (the number combination)
            Fractal patterns (the above figure)
            Exponential functions (let's test it )


            also:
            Flywheel energy storage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
            Flywheel energy storage (FES) works by accelerating a rotor (flywheel) to a very high speed and maintaining the energy in the system as rotational energy. When energy is extracted from the system, the flywheel's rotational speed is reduced as a consequence of the principle of conservation of energy; adding energy to the system correspondingly results in an increase in the speed of the flywheel.
            sounds like a good option for a bedini set up
            Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-15-2011, 08:07 PM.
            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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            • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
              Tesla uses three coils in his tesla coil, doesn't he...Id be curious if someone could find the 6 3 9 numbers in the construction of a Tesla coil... for instance

              62 38 95 as dimension/turns etc...



              note:
              6+2=8
              3+8=11=2
              9+5=14=5





              I ching to Ho Tu to Lo Shu and Well basic introduction. Sum of things

              ‪I ching to Ho Tu to Lo Shu and Well basic introduction. Sum of things..wmv‬‏ - YouTube

              Check out this website:

              Rodin’s Torus and it’s Match to the Lo Shu.

              The Matching of Lee Burton’s and Paul Martyn-Smith’s working’s on the I Ching and Rodin’s Torus. Part 2:- The LO Shu and the 9 x 9 Square of the Moon.
              Rodin’s Torus and it’s Match to the Lo Shu.



              Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-15-2011, 11:32 PM.
              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • "Think not of what you see, but what it took to produce what you see.” -
                Benoit Mandelbrot.

                check out the doc i posted , and see how he discovered fractals (starts at 14 min)
                Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-16-2011, 12:25 AM.
                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • The 9 split most definitely seems related to recent coil work
                  The outputs on the method are startling. I might well try your coil strand split idea above...
                  Tesla's 3 phase AC could be interwoven.
                  Here's what happened in one experiment of mine, with a 9 strand coil.
                  Apologies for being overly animated, it was the first trial run of the arrangement.
                  ‪White plasma flashes inside a neon at 4.5V - Pulse motor‬‏ - YouTube

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                  • Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post
                    The 9 split most definitely seems related to recent coil work
                    The outputs on the method are startling. I might well try your coil strand split idea above...
                    Tesla's 3 phase AC could be interwoven.
                    Here's what happened in one experiment of mine, with a 9 strand coil.
                    Apologies for being overly animated, it was the first trial run of the arrangement.
                    ‪White plasma flashes inside a neon at 4.5V - Pulse motor‬‏ - YouTube

                    Quite a synchronicity, i did not know that a 9 coil set up was being researched, this is good news, it means we are on the right path

                    ps: i saw the white flashes at the bottom left of the vid, in the diode...if it is unusual, unusual is good, that means you have uncovered a new path to explore

                    Tesla's 3 phase AC could be interwoven.
                    worth exploring, it takes 3 waves to create a variation (or a fractal wave)

                    by the way you should check out the iching video (the sum of things) it starts with the 3 6 9 combination and evolves into larger numbers....
                    Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-16-2011, 10:02 AM.
                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post
                      The 9 split most definitely seems related to recent coil work
                      The outputs on the method are startling. I might well try your coil strand split idea above...
                      Tesla's 3 phase AC could be interwoven.
                      Here's what happened in one experiment of mine, with a 9 strand coil.
                      Apologies for being overly animated, it was the first trial run of the arrangement.
                      ‪White plasma flashes inside a neon at 4.5V - Pulse motor‬‏ - YouTube

                      Just a thought, when you build that coil strand split idea, you will have created (my personal opinion) a fractal wave producing coil

                      an electromagnetic spiderweb

                      if this pans out, and i do hope so :

                      you reproduce the same coil nine times to build a bedini motor



                      but connecting the coils as the nine star below:



                      basically you'd be repeating what is inside the coil to the outside set up...sounds familiar:

                      As Above so Below, From Within So Without

                      a set up wih good fractal ergonomics, I'll call it the Emerald Set up (in honor to the Emerald Tablet )


                      you have

                      Cycles (the number combination)
                      Fractal patterns (the above figure)
                      Exponential functions (let's test it )


                      Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-16-2011, 10:42 AM.
                      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                      • FYI: read it with fractal in mind:

                        A new translation bypassing the Latin has just been published by Nineveh Shadrach from the original Arabic of Book on the Secret of Creation (also named Book of the Causes) attributed to Apollonius of Tyana.[3]
                        It contains an accurate commentary that can't be doubted.
                        It states: What is the above is from the below and the below is from the above. The work of wonders is from one.
                        And all things sprang from this essence through a single projection. How marvelous is its work! It is the principle [sic] part of the world and its custodian.
                        Its father is the sun and its mother is the moon. Thus the wind bore it within it and the earth nourished it.
                        Father of talismans and keeper of wonders.
                        Perfect in power that reveals the lights.
                        It is a fire that became our earth. Separate the earth from the fire and you shall adhere more to that which is subtle than that which is coarse, through care and wisdom.
                        It ascends from the earth to the heaven. It extracts the lights from the heights and descends to the earth containing the power of the above and the below for it is with the light of the lights. Therefore the darkness flees from it.
                        The greatest power overcomes everything that is subtle and it penetrates all that is coarse.
                        The formation of the microcosm is in accordance with the formation of the macrocosm.
                        The scholars made this their path.
                        This is why Thrice Hermes was exalted with wisdom.
                        This is his last book that he hid in the catacomb.
                        Emerald Tablet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • transfering info from: http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...antenna-3.html

                          Originally posted by petar113507 View Post
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                          On a side note --
                          Monisuer M, your idea about a cell atop a tesla coil is very interesting. What did you imagine would be the condition of the water (the fractal antenna) entering the high voltage field? (liquid, or vapor?)

                          Would you elaborate a little on why you would combine those two? I think I understand, but I'd like to be sure.

                          Very good ideas

                          ==Romo
                          Thank you petar113507 , I will let Dr Tesla answer for me, if that is alright

                          This invention, which I have described in technical publications, attempts to imitate, in a very crude way, the nervous system in the human body.' Nicolas Tesla
                          if so what would be the missing component in Dr Tesla's set up

                          just a thought but if Dr Tesla was using a spherical grid instead in his Colorado Springs, instead of a solid sphere (usually found in lab models) because he needed water inside the sphere found in the atmosphere... (just noticed this little detail)

                          (liquid, or vapor?)
                          you got me, here, i would follow Dr Tesla inspiration and go with liquid but this is just speculation...this is were experimentation takes over...sorry if this does not answer fully your question


                          Thank you again petar113507

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                          Originally posted by petar113507 View Post
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                          Multiple interpertations of the emerald tablet.

                          I think they are an interesting set of instructions.


                          ==Romo
                          As it should be , if you consider The emerald tablet is key to the fractal universe, why would you consider the tablet "one dimensional"

                          Not to derail the topic, but Has anyone actually crystalized ORME's from morning dew, and consume it, as the tablet suggests?
                          not having done it personally but this site talks about it:

                          Morning Dew method 3

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                          here is a little brain exercise, mixing both the Emerald Tablet and Tesla Coil...most of you are quite familiar with the basic principle on how to Tesla Coil works, right?

                          Try to find these in the Emerald Tablet (and don't forget water)

                          think of it as an exercise in translation...

                          This is why Thrice Hermes was exalted with wisdom.
                          If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.
                          — Nikola Tesla

                          thrice
                          –adverb
                          1. three times, as in succession; on three occasions or in three ways.
                          2. in threefold quantity or degree.
                          3. very; extremely.


                          ex·alt·ed
                          –adjective
                          1. raised or elevated, as in rank or character; of high station: an exalted personage.
                          2. noble or elevated; lofty: an exalted style of writing.
                          3. rapturously excited





                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                            Thank you petar113507 , I will let Dr Tesla answer for me, if that is alright



                            if so what would be the missing component in Dr Tesla's set up

                            just a thought but if Dr Tesla was using a spherical grid instead in his Colorado Springs
                            , instead of a solid sphere (usually found in lab models) because he needed water inside the sphere found in the atmosphere... (just noticed this little detail)



                            you got me, here, i would follow Dr Tesla inspiration and go with liquid but this is just speculation...this is were experimentation takes over...sorry if this does not answer fully your question


                            Thank you again petar113507
                            from post : http://www.energeticforum.com/147789-post57.html


                            Originally posted by lamare View Post
                            You know what?

                            Gravity and the electric field is one and the same thing!




                            And that also explains the TT Brown effect....

                            Exactly, they belong to the same fractal engine... and water is its fuel....

                            see post: http://www.energeticforum.com/147525-post99.html

                            Biefeld–Brown effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                            for illustration purpose:



                            Behind every apparent law that governs the universe is a fractal/constructal system, and i would add that water is its fuel

                            his tower was using a combination of ttbrown effect + a variation of Kelvin experiment to get charged water inside the sphere.....

                            Colorado Springs Relative Humidity - CityRating.com
                            Relative humidity of Colorado Springs including average monthly and annual data

                            Colorado Springs Relative Humidity - CityRating.com



                            Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-17-2011, 03:40 PM.
                            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                            • just found this very nice german website on cymatics while watching a doc on crop circles:


                              WasserKlangBilder, Klangfiguren, A. Lauterwasser, Klangwellen, Überlingen

                              and if you are curious about crop circles, here is the doc i found it in:

                              New swirled order want to watch the cymatics animation go to 14:30 min of the vid

                              ‪New swirled order‬‏ - YouTube

                              Where does this mysterious crop circle phenomena come from? Is it done by man as a joke? So why do people have extraordinary experiences then? Flying ball of lights were seen in and around crop cirlces. Or is it an alien intelligence which try to communicate with us? The geometry which can be found in crop circles, inculed a lot of mathematics which can be also found in nature.
                              I would like to also read the following:

                              Underground Water and Crop Circles - Article by Glenn Broughton

                              Put very simply we are stating that there is always underground water present where crop formations occur.


                              again water
                              ...why am i not surprised

                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post


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                                As it should be , if you consider The emerald tablet is key to the fractal universe, why would you consider the tablet "one dimensional"


                                here is a little brain exercise, mixing both the Emerald Tablet and Tesla Coil...most of you are quite familiar with the basic principle on how the Tesla Coil works, right?

                                Try to find these in the Emerald Tablet (and don't forget water)

                                think of it as an exercise in translation...


                                thrice
                                –adverb
                                1. three times, as in succession; on three occasions or in three ways.
                                2. in threefold quantity or degree.
                                3. very; extremely.


                                ex·alt·ed
                                –adjective
                                1. raised or elevated, as in rank or character; of high station: an exalted personage.
                                2. noble or elevated; lofty: an exalted style of writing.
                                3. rapturously excited





                                interesting

                                The Isisian Codes

                                ‪Red Ice radio - 2.1.2011 - 3/6 - The Isisian Codes‬‏ - YouTube
                                Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-18-2011, 03:54 PM.
                                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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