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  • #16
    Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post
    Quantitative results won't be arriving from myself yet. This meter is analog and has just a RX1K setting. So, the circuit sits now off the table and will continue running... til it doesn't.
    I'll be doing the white LED test...right now a vehicle tail light with 5 epoxied super brights is being pulled apart

    Quite true about the AV plug and LED. Got one here being trialled on 3x simple voltage doublers that runs an LCD watch, using a Ground affixed outside the window to a 1ft depth pipe. It appears to benefit from the attaching of a large bare aluminium encased 10,000uF cap as an 'aerial' and that removes the need to grasp the circuit strongly in ones hand.

    After some searches and little information being found, what would be the expected JT run time of such a typical white LED from a 120mA 1.2V Ni-MH cell ?
    I'll build 2 with similar components, one a regular JT, one with Steven Jones' circuit and run them side by side
    After some searches and little information being found, what would be the expected JT run time of such a typical white LED from a 120mA 1.2V Ni-MH cell ?
    I hope you are not asking me. I have never built nor plan on building a JT. The circuit just does not grab my attention.

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    • #17
      Nope, not specifically, just generally and within enjoying all input to this sort of experimentation from those with experience. Lawrence's work hadn't been seen by me before.
      This new method could be considered as an old circuit having new legs.
      Further reading has turned up expectations varying from 10hrs to weeks for used alkalines..so, multiple direct comparisons are needed from similar components for small rechargeables.
      I would actually hope to see a Ni-MH being charged from the one being used, whilst running a load...which opens all this up a little.

      Anyone else got a replication going yet ?

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      • #18
        The Multiple LCR resonance circuits run cold!

        Originally posted by DrStiffler View Post
        I looked at you pictures and as with Prof. Jones, until a heat test is done it is indeed hope and I have never seen testing relying on scope traces only, let alone when it is digitized.

        Edit: There must be more than one calorimeter at his university and it would take maybe four hours to put all criticism to bed.
        The lead-out or bring-in energy theory predicts that energy from the environment can come in from the surrounding. This characteristic can cool down the environment. This is a very important feature. The Pulse Motors can actually run cold and potentially reverse the effect of Global Warming.

        Thus calorimeter results may be misleading with such devices.

        God is making his Revelations clearer by the day. Amen.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
          The lead-out or bring-in energy theory predicts that energy from the environment can come in from the surrounding. This characteristic can cool down the environment. This is a very important feature. The Pulse Motors can actually run cold and potentially reverse the effect of Global Warming.

          Thus calorimeter results may be misleading with such devices.

          God is making his Revelations clearer by the day. Amen.
          Thus calorimeter results may be misleading with such devices.
          That is incorrect. You would have to say that the load ran cool also and that is false. One or more components may run cool, yet the rest will follow td. If you stick the entire circuit in a test chamber and do not separate properly you will resolve <1. If you split out correctly you will be able to determine where the Spatial Energy is entering the circuit. Digital scope as proof are bogus and used to just perpetuate an incorrect hypothesis.

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          • #20
            Require more background information?

            Those who would like to get more background on the JT variant technology can get much information from the following:

            The thread that was started by PhysicsProf (Lawrence Tseung sent a Prototype to test... any comments?) on 12-30, 2010.

            Lawrence Tseung sent a Prototype to test... any comments?

            The bench of PhysicsProf (Prof. Steven Jones of BYU)

            http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?board=122.0

            The bench of ltseung888 (Lawrence Tseung of Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Hong Kong)

            ltseung888


            That should give enough background on the technology and the history of development.

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            • #21
              You will see a Steven Mark type Demo soon.

              Originally posted by DrStiffler View Post
              That is incorrect. You would have to say that the load ran cool also and that is false. One or more components may run cool, yet the rest will follow td. If you stick the entire circuit in a test chamber and do not separate properly you will resolve <1. If you split out correctly you will be able to determine where the Spatial Energy is entering the circuit. Digital scope as proof are bogus and used to just perpetuate an incorrect hypothesis.
              I am trying to convince a Hong Kong team to show their "Steven Mark type" TPU or toroidal circuit. They want to make money (lots of money).

              They told me that when their product is ready for the market, I would have one of the first products (not prototypes) free because I helped to introduce the multiple LCR resonance concept to them.

              Lead-out or bring-in energy is no longer a hypothesis. It cannot be wrong. Please read the detailed information at my bench.

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              • #22
                Re: Steven Jones

                Go to the university and use the fancy oscilloscope ?

                Build a wheatstone bridge; the protoype on one arm
                and a standard sine on the other, perfectly balanced.
                Identical loads on both such as monopole motors.

                My guess is Gabriel Kron used a simular technique when
                he worked at a college made a negative resistor using a navy network analyzer
                and our analog instrument was taken leaving us without accurate way to measure
                dc pulse waves that we can all agree on.
                Last edited by mikrovolt; 05-29-2011, 03:04 PM.

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                • #23
                  ckt behaves differently when scope attached

                  I put the ckt together (with a minor deviation, toroid is 1.5" O.D.). The ckt appears to function.

                  With the scope probes attached to CSRin and CSRout, I can detach Rr (Rr = infinity) and the circuit continues to function until the scope probe is disconnected from CSRout.

                  It is clear - by twiddling the knobs and watching the led - that the circuit functions differently when the scope is attached than when the scope is not attached. (Tektronix 2245A, 100MHz, 1Mohm, 20pF, 10x probes).

                  correction: CSRin and CSRout are supposed to be current sensing resistors. I used ordinary resistors.
                  Last edited by pault; 05-29-2011, 11:26 PM.

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                  • #24
                    For consideration

                    I do not want to highjack this thread, this is just an idea using part of the circuit concerned with a few alterations. I am 90% sure it will work as drawn, the other 10% would be some minor changes.

                    I will post this on a new thread so comments can be made and I hope someone will have a go with it, it is not difficult.

                    The special transformer, if we can call it that, I will post a separate diagram when I have time, which is very little at the moment.

                    I have not built this at the moment.

                    Mike
                    Last edited by Michael John Nunnerley; 11-09-2011, 03:51 PM.

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                    • #25
                      As it should so happen, I am many states from home and visiting Dr. Jones now. I have spent the last few days visiting with the gentleman who is collaborating with him.

                      Dr. Stiffler, I will make these suggestions in person.

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                      • #26
                        Thank you Armagdn03,

                        Have fun and be safe.

                        QU

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Armagdn03 View Post
                          As it should so happen, I am many states from home and visiting Dr. Jones now. I have spent the last few days visiting with the gentleman who is collaborating with him.

                          Dr. Stiffler, I will make these suggestions in person.
                          Please send my regards to Prof. Jones when you see him. He will also be interested in your resonance experiments.

                          Take photos, videos and confirm the working of the prototype. Build an extra one while you are there.

                          God Bless you all.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by quantumuppercut View Post
                            Thank you Armagdn03,

                            Have fun and be safe.

                            QU
                            That would be great, utter confidence in you in doing so. Please explain to Dr. Jones the pitfalls of public.... well you know what I mean.

                            BTW You will understand also, beware and advise the problems with scope grounds unless the inputs are isolated and in that case one must include the offset if present.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DrStiffler View Post
                              That would be great, utter confidence in you in doing so. Please explain to Dr. Jones the pitfalls of public.... well you know what I mean.

                              BTW You will understand also, beware and advise the problems with scope grounds unless the inputs are isolated and in that case one must include the offset if present.
                              Hi Dr. Stiffler,

                              Thanks. You don't seem to have too much confident in the scope. I agree that there will be an error factor in scope, but do you think the load will shows excess heat?

                              QU

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by quantumuppercut View Post
                                Hi Dr. Stiffler,

                                Thanks. You don't seem to have too much confident in the scope. I agree that there will be an error factor in scope, but do you think the load will shows excess heat?

                                QU
                                In a calorimeter, the entire circuit should show a marked heat value to match the so called 8X OU. The load if it is stated reflects 8x them it would even show additional heat as we might assume the transistor produced a bit during the switching transient. So in effect if the load were 8 * In then we should see ( ( 8*In) + Tran + Other), right. In effect the total would be greater than what the load indicates.

                                I doubt very much that this is an interface to the lattice, if it indeed did show gain then it would most likely be the transistor in a -R mode of operation or the core of the coil was in some way manifesting or capturing excess, external energy. When I say external I say that in general, the core could produce excess heat via the domain switching, although I feel this is reserved to exotic materials.

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