If we charge for knowledge, do we the ones paying actually get knowledge

[graphitebone]

Or do we get something else.

In this time we are in, the days of patenting a product and becoming famous and rich are over. And now knowing that every life on this planet is in threat. I see creating a product that is of great importance and not giving it freely, a huge disservice to humanity and the world. The only one it betters is the money-market economy. I know we all have to survive but to continue to operate in this system with a product for sale in a place like this forum, to me is the greatest disservice. Bedini has engaged in helping people figure it out. He has made kits available to those where resources are hard to come by. There are so many of you i respect for your altruism even if you tried to use the system to become rich. With these kinds of technologies i see the purpose being to evolve away from all forms of servitude. Without money, we can all be rich!

Just sayin

[graphitebone]

53 view and no reply. make me wander about what you think?

[boguslaw]

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[shawnnweed]

53 view and no reply. make me wander about what you think?

I think the goal is being independent. Rich or not rich is a matter of perception. In this place we aim for enrichment over riches but are not opposed to being rich.

[boguslaw]

I think the goal is being independent. Rich or not rich is a matter of perception. In this place we aim for enrichment over riches but are not opposed to being rich.

Yes,each man should be independent.And inventive.

[graphitebone]

lets make it better

rich will never be the answer.

I love this quote, without money we can all be rich.

As for independent, this everyman for them selves bull is not going to get us anywhere then where we are headed. In my eyes we are headed to self destruction. We need a different way of looking at it.

Independent and working together for the greater good of everyone is the only way. Thinking with ego and self interest is just another Dick Cheney.

People like Marcin from opensourceecology.org get this.
communityplanet.org.
thevenusproject.org
thezeitgeistmovemnet.org

[MonsieurM]

knowledge does not necessarily comprise schematics of machine or other. If you learn how to compile information, you'll always find the answer of what you are looking for. From my personal experience, over 80% of the info is available online (in a form or another) "free". Just have to know how to put the pieces together. From all the readings i have done, people may start on a different path but always end up using the same principles ("all roads lead to Rome"), all you have to do is look at how many devices have been created to tap into the Radiant Waves.

"You cannot invent, you can only discover" - Gordon Plummer

[boguslaw]

knowledge does not necessarily comprise schematics of machine or other. If you learn how to compile information, you'll always find the answer of what you are looking for. From my personal experience, over 80% of the info is available online (in a form or another) "free". Just have to know how to put the pieces together. From all the readings i have done, people may start on a different path but always end up using the same principles ("all roads lead to Rome"), all you have to do is look at how many devices have been created to tap into the Radiant Waves.

"You cannot invent, you can only discover" - Gordon Plummer

BIG YES!!! However to find something important in all those internet mess is very difficult. Information is fragmented and partially censored.
Stan Deyo described very good this process : somehow someone is creating "noise" to keep information hidden.

I recommend watching Stan Deyo videos.
YouTube - ‪AntiGravity explained and produced!! Amazing! pt. 1 of 8‬‏

Mind blowing!

[MonsieurM]

BIG YES!!! However to find something important in all those internet mess is very difficult. Information is fragmented and partially censored.
Stan Deyo described very good this process : somehow someone is creating "noise" to keep information hidden.

I recommend watching Stan Deyo videos.
YouTube - ‪AntiGravity explained and produced!! Amazing! pt. 1 of 8‬‏

Mind blowing!

will check out the vid

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Knowledge

Knowledge is a learning curve, a little bit here and a little bit there and bit by bit you will start to get the idea, but if you learn the basics at the same time from a book that is dealing with the basics as well for the item you are researching and not in general which would take years, then paying for that knowledge is a good thing, you would only be paying a little for many years of the authors work.

It would be very nieve to think that the author would pay for everything for you. You pay a tax every year to drive your nice car on the roads, but YOUR tax ONLY does not pay for the roads, but ALL together, yes it pays for the roads.

I will be publicating in the near future, AND I WILL EXPECT TO GET PAID FOR MY WORK, that is how it is, I am not a millionair who gives donations, and especially to those who want to make money out of it at the end.

Very sore topic for me, sorry, no not so sorry

Mike

[graphitebone]

paradigm shift!

"that is how it is"

Because that's what we have done in the past in this day and age is not a good enough excuse anymore. The younger generation is dreaming of a world without money. they are going back to simpler cultures to see what worked. This idea is getting bigger and bigger every day. a lot already know we can't keep going on this path that leads to demise. How long do you have to go down that path til you know where it leads?

We in the west have this false notion the we have to suffer in order to gain something. "If it is given they wont appreciate it, but if they pay for it they will"

a link to a video called the story of stuff
YouTube - ‪Story of Stuff, Full Version; How Things Work, About Stuff‬‏

and a link to a guy named Dmitry Orlov
Green Life Eco Fest - March 22, 2011 on Vimeo
this one is especially good for this topic!

The information in this forum whether we realize it or not is out side the norm.
It is a disruption to the system. there will be other disruptions.

One last video about the truth of what motivates us!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XA...layer_embedded

Thanks for engaging me on this topic.

[MonsieurM]

"that is how it is"

The information in this forum whether we realize it or not is out side the norm.
It is a disruption to the system. there will be other disruptions.

One last video about the truth of what motivates us!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XA...layer_embedded

Thanks for engaging me on this topic.

Hopefully

[Farmhand]

Graphitebone, those are cool video's. I agree, one of the problems with always charging for things is, when someone come's along and give's away what someone else has been charging for it shows them up for thier values, when people no longer need to buy from them. Because they can now trade fairly for or are gifted the same from elsewhere, the person originally selling stuff now has a ruined economy an over supply of worthless goods and no freinds.

It works to give stuff away, I do it all the time, I give away eggs, chickens, vegetables, meat, electronic device's, machines and my time and knowledge. In return i get many things too numerous to mention, but the most valuable things I get in return are kindness, understanding for the unique predicament I'm in, and all kinds of unwanted stuff other people have they consider giving to me first, often time's I wish them to give what they offer to me to others and they do, which starts a whole other chain of humanity.

It is time to forgo greed and embrace humanity.

I can live without money but I cannot live without freinds and help and peace of mind.

Cheers