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  • What would happen to an Inventor who could solve the energy crises?

    Hi everyone!

    I've been watching alot of videos about new breakthroughs to counter the "Energy crises" honestly I cant find most of them in the market, or if they weren't good enough for the market...

    lets talk theoretically here...

    If their was an inventor who finally produced a product that lets say.. would counter all problems in developing electricity the source would be limitless for as long as we need, sufficient in developing it.. and good for the environment

    What would happen to this inventor?

    Would he dive into a sea filled with sharks ?

    Could he start a company and dominate the energy business or what?

    Would governments around the WHOLE world mostly support his idea or be against it?

    All these questions are just to clear my mind for our future in finding a new source of electricity!

    thanks

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    Originally posted by Moha99 View Post
    Hi everyone!

    I've been watching alot of videos about new breakthroughs to counter the "Energy crises" honestly I cant find most of them in the market, or if they weren't good enough for the market...

    lets talk theoretically here...

    If their was an inventor who finally produced a product that lets say.. would counter all problems in developing electricity the source would be limitless for as long as we need, sufficient in developing it.. and good for the environment

    What would happen to this inventor?

    Would he dive into a sea filled with sharks ?

    Could he start a company and dominate the energy business or what?

    Would governments around the WHOLE world mostly support his idea or be against it?

    All these questions are just to clear my mind for our future in finding a new source of electricity!

    thanks
    There are a couple of threads already which cover this topic - take a look at this one: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...then-what.html

    But to answer your questions, the basic rule is - they are either: killed, bought off or suppressed. If the inventor thinks he'll make billions or trillions - that dream will always be a dream. As the established cartel will do everything in it's power to keep the status quo. Inventors who have kept secrets about how their devices work - kept and keep their secrets to their graves. Which results in nothing changing.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Savvypro View Post
      There are a couple of threads already which cover this topic - take a look at this one: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...then-what.html

      But to answer your questions, the basic rule is - they are either: killed, bought off or suppressed. If the inventor thinks he'll make billions or trillions - that dream will always be a dream. As the established cartel will do everything in it's power to keep the status quo. Inventors who have kept secrets about how their devices work - kept and keep their secrets to their graves. Which results in nothing changing.

      Thanks for your reply, but i read most of that topic honestly i think you guys are going under the concept of free energy!

      Free energy would not be available now...

      almost 4.6 billion people are in the grid the energy business is a 5 trillion dollar business making free energy concepts are definitely going under the threat of death or of being SHUT UP...

      but if a concept was introduced under the title of a solution to the crises but still make the economy grow and expand well i think they would support it rather then shut it down, they KNOW oil will end very soon and reality is going to punch in soon very very soon.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Moha99 View Post
        Thanks for your reply, but i read most of that topic honestly i think you guys are going under the concept of free energy!

        Free energy would not be available now...

        almost 4.6 billion people are in the grid the energy business is a 5 trillion dollar business making free energy concepts are definitely going under the threat of death or of being SHUT UP...

        but if a concept was introduced under the title of a solution to the crises but still make the economy grow and expand well i think they would support it rather then shut it down, they KNOW oil will end very soon and reality is going to punch in soon very very soon.
        It doesn't matter if it's free energy or an actual alternative - it's all the same results.

        Watch the following: David Blume "Alcohol Can Be A Gas" - it's not free energy, it is a real alternative, it works and is proven to work - it will "make the economy grow and expand". Yet it's still suppressed and discredited (which is another thing that they do to inventors or inventions - which I forgot to add to my original post above).

        In the words of David Rockefeller, Sr. - competition is a sin.
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        • #5
          Alas not one free energy device has been invented, at least not working unit, at least not to this day.
          Even if someone will invent this kind of unit, it does not mean the energy will come cheap. Even the most schmuckest ou-researcher dreams to be come rich after buying neodyminum magnets, after winding few coils on to sewing machine bobbins and adding some diodes, transistors or even ... oh dear ... microchip (our technology !!! ) Mostly such kind guy has been very little in school, even in this little school he was busy with what ever instead of learning. Typical is disparaging mentality against science, forgotten that all these neodymium magnets, transistors, diodes, microchips and so on - all have been invented by scientists and engineers, followed the rules and playing by the rules of physics. Now some dumbhead trying to get something ultra-wonder installing these coils, diodes, transistors series, parallel ... forgetting that millions of people have done the same millions times, generation after generations, building radio receivers and senders, TVs ... wound millions of coils, transformers, built huge amount of different motors, generators ... made a lot of mistakes, multimillion different faults but none was never happy to get any OU
          Typical OU guy does not like any criticism - you will come "naysayer" in one second, he twaddleing about different conspiracies ... "Man in Black took away my working OU" ... government kills inventors ...oil companies hire some strong men to beat the **** out of poor ou-inventor

          Yeah, my friends, when someone really invents some real OU, then who is able to buy this Yes, of course some very rich company, sooner oil company Why an oil-magnat gotta want to drill wells, to ship the oil with tankers, why to mess with gas abd diesel ... when someone Mr. R from UK has invented really working over unity
          The only reason why they do not contact with, why they do not invest into research any cent, why they do not pay eny penny is because all this story is a lie, is a bluff and this poor inventor ... he has just very primitive knowledge about area where hi is "researching"

          cheers,
          khabe

          Myself I do not believe OU?
          I do believe that sooner or later this is possible but not by this way like someones naively trying.
          Last edited by khabe; 06-17-2011, 01:01 PM.

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          • #6
            "The only reason why they do not contact with, why they do not invest into research any cent, why they do not pay eny penny is because all this story is a lie, is a bluff and this poor inventor ... he has just very primitive knowledge about area where hi is "researching" "

            There is other possible explanation : they knew exactly what is free energy, where is it coming from and how to produce it. In many ways.What do you think ?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
              "The only reason why they do not contact with, why they do not invest into research any cent, why they do not pay eny penny is because all this story is a lie, is a bluff and this poor inventor ... he has just very primitive knowledge about area where hi is "researching" "

              There is other possible explanation : they knew exactly what is free energy, where is it coming from and how to produce it. In many ways.What do you think ?
              Im sure they do not have, otherwise they do not need to drill, to transport and to mess with oil refinings, again transport, distributing, selling .... lot of headache Much more easy is to buy this unit put into big money, enhance, produce and ...
              cheers,
              khabe

              Or you think that some Arabian Oil Sheik will await up till the last droplet before take it out from treasury
              Oh no, they just do not have, none have

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              • #8
                Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                "The only reason why they do not contact with, why they do not invest into research any cent, why they do not pay eny penny is because all this story is a lie, is a bluff and this poor inventor ... he has just very primitive knowledge about area where hi is "researching" "

                There is other possible explanation : they knew exactly what is free energy, where is it coming from and how to produce it. In many ways.What do you think ?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
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                  Wow that is one of the most dangerous things I have ever seen.

                  I must be missing something. What does it do ? Except for present the very real possibity of being dismembered or killed by it .

                  Wow wow and WOW !

                  I am curious, I miss a lot of stuff. So if I missed what it does it wouldn't be the first time.

                  It's addictive to watch .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by aljhoa View Post
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                    Oh boy - very courageous man !!!
                    But wheres the energy
                    He drives this mostrum with electric motor through these wheels but what is he is getting , cant understand he wastes for what?
                    Nice machine anyway
                    cheers,
                    khabe

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                    • #11
                      Lets get something straight - "free energy" does not exist. You always have to do something, spend something, build something or expend some energy - in order to be able to get that so called "free energy".

                      The tapping of the vast energy field that is everywhere has been done. Just do some proper research on a phenomena called the Casimir effect (wikipedia is not proper research, plus it does not describe the Casimir effect, correctly or fully. The most important bit is missing from its Casimir effect page).

                      And for those who claim that: if an alternative was developed, governments, industry etc. would embrace it completely and push it through - just watch the David Blume "Alcohol Can Be A Gas" video. All your assumptions will be laid to rest, and your questions will also be answered. As well as learning about how things really work.
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                      • #12
                        yeah free energy do not exists and sun is not shining and water does not blow and water do not flow down the waterfall

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                          yeah free energy do not exists and sun is not shining and water does not blow and water do not flow down the waterfall

                          In order to turn those 3 sources you described (ultimately just one - the sun) - you have to do something. Solar, wind, wave/hydro (or anything else) don't just miraculously turn into electricity, that you can use without a conversion process. That conversion process is where the "free" bit ends, and is what causes the free energy to not be free - but actually have a cost. That is what I mean buy there being no “free energy”, and not that there is not vast amounts of available energy everywhere all the time.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                            yeah free energy do not exists and sun is not shining and water does not blow and water do not flow down the waterfall
                            When you define water, wind and sun as free energy sources then of course it is free, but look at cost of solar cells Also is bit naive to think that every man will build own wind generator for his house ... this is childish at that everywhere not possible.
                            Reality of today is that energy what comes to your house from wind farms costs more than energy what comes from hydro, nuclear or fossil plants.
                            They (wind farms companies and politicians) telling that wind energy is clean (of course we all know and bear out ) but ... they also telling us that cost of wind energy is higher than common energy. Of course we know that this is not true, could not to be. When to compare the building of any other energy plant with wind plant then what you need to build for hydro plant is incomparably more expensive with what you need for wind energy, whereby both use "free energy". When to compare with fossil fuel plant then who can believe that wind generator blades, masts ... etc are more expensive than building of fossil power station with boilers, steam turbines ... with fossil fuel storage ... whereby somebody must to mine this fuel, transport ...
                            Also nuclear power can not be cheaper than wind energy because high grade technology and materials, radwaste into the bargain.
                            But nonetheless on my monthly bill for electric energy there is fee for renewable energy ca €50 per month when total is €500
                            Every commonsense man can understand that the building of wind plant costs less than what ever other type of energy plant, even wind warm can not exist without common electric plant, the cost of wind energy can not be higher than other energy sources, but due to influence of worldwide lobbying of energy companies and corrupted politicians we have to listen the plaint about how expensive is wind energy and ... we pay for.
                            Cost of wind energy is typical example about I have tried to explane - even when someone come off with "free energy" machine, cost of energy will not fall down, sooner will grow up When some OU-master telling something like
                            "this will be Gift for folks of all the world " ... this is fiddle-faddle, look at the latest OU-Messiah, where is his free teachings, how-know how to do this? Man in Black took away his working unit, smashed up ... put his veto upon and poor man can not tell anymore how it need to be built, gives just foggy cues What you want to beleve, in mortal fear he can not tell you, or he telling not because grudging, or ... he have nothing to tell?
                            cheers,
                            khabe

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Savvypro View Post
                              In order to turn those 3 sources you described (ultimately just one - the sun) - you have to do something. Solar, wind, wave/hydro (or anything else) don't just miraculously turn into electricity, that you can use without a conversion process. That conversion process is where the "free" bit ends, and is what causes the free energy to not be free - but actually have a cost. That is what I mean buy there being no “free energy”, and not that there is not vast amounts of available energy everywhere all the time.
                              What about if I make my own wind generator without using any money and all my food and time does not need to be paid for either ?

                              Is it free then ?

                              Just as a thought exersize.
                              Consider that I can make anything i want to make within reason. And that I do not use money but have resources at hand that do not need to be paid for. My time is my own. I make a wind generator and set it to work.

                              Is the resulting electricity it produces free or not ?

                              How do you define free ?

                              My way is if there is no money or goods given by me to anybody else to make something then it is free. Simple.

                              Cheers

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