just a simple question.
1st. who here has achieved it(cop>1 and with what device?
2nd. Also who has achieved cop>1 on a purely electrical stand point mean i put in x electric energy and at the end get >x(greater then x) electric energy(meaning ignoring the fact that it does work, if the device does do work)
3rd. who has build a device that runs itself or powers its self?
consider this a low tech, word of mouth form of proof.
i know cop>1 exist and ill use real examples people cant avoid(meaning the ones the norm of people accept) like solar panels x energy in greater then x energy comes out(over its life time),
sun/heating exp heat pump,wind power, water power(rivers, tides, dames...),geothermal would be greater then x and nuclear(although i don't like nuclear energy i think its negatives offset any positives) and im sure many more that i did not list
so i clearly know as should everyone that cop>1 is totally an attainable goal, it been attained all over the world many many times. However i have noticed that there is this resistance to the idea that cop>1 is attainable, also that it is attainable threw a different medium like zero point energy,vacuum energy, radiant energy,gravity,magnetic's...
what i would like this thread to convey is this.
that although, at this moment i have not or at lest that i am aware of have achieved cop>1(just got into it, im an experimenter so im gonna experiment) although i have see a lot of practical video's and read reasonable material explaining why these other forms of energy could lead to cop>1 which i think they can, it would still be comforting to see a large number of individuals to be able to say yup i have.
the second thing i would like this to convey is
that although there are skeptics(which by the way is not a bad thing necessarily-to me everything depends on its contexts) there are also interested individuals looking for a little peer confirmation(kinda like me creating this thread). So the take away moment is if you encounter a skeptic or resistance instead of going on the offensive or defensive, present your (i guess ill call it argument for lack of a better word) argument with neutrality, first if its cop>1 doesn't exist give him the examples that at first he can relate to like the solar panel,wing mill... then explain there are other forms of naturally occurring energy that have not been taped into or have been that he is unaware of and this is one of them devices, from this point i see 1 or 2 thing happening. 1 the person will refuse to see that there is actually logic in your reasoning and it might need a deeper look, or actual investigation/testing done or 2 the person will see that there actually is logic in your reasoning and it might need a deeper look, or actual investigation/testing done(meaning bringing a new member to the fold or maybe better said bringing light into a clouded mind) . if 1 happens then i suggest not to waste your time as a good zen saying goes (thous that know don't need to be told and thous that don't know rarely listen) however 2 can happen.
one thing iv noticed that is sometimes happening is when someone is asking is that cop>1 there is a rejection to the individual for asking the question or ignoring the question and then these same people complain about how stupid everyone is and im wondering why that should take place, that doesn't make sense to me. im pretty sure you weren't born knowing you could get cop>1(im pretty sure there was a time when you couldn't read). Remember that those people are your human brothers and sisters and they are not so much different then you, you both have a that wants to give love and receive love, and you both can feel pain. So be conscious about how you approach your fellow brother or sister. if you try it this way you might be better received, and if not at lest less frustrated give it a try make an experiment out of it .
Don't focus on the problem focus on the solution.
1st. who here has achieved it(cop>1 and with what device?
2nd. Also who has achieved cop>1 on a purely electrical stand point mean i put in x electric energy and at the end get >x(greater then x) electric energy(meaning ignoring the fact that it does work, if the device does do work)
3rd. who has build a device that runs itself or powers its self?
consider this a low tech, word of mouth form of proof.
i know cop>1 exist and ill use real examples people cant avoid(meaning the ones the norm of people accept) like solar panels x energy in greater then x energy comes out(over its life time),
sun/heating exp heat pump,wind power, water power(rivers, tides, dames...),geothermal would be greater then x and nuclear(although i don't like nuclear energy i think its negatives offset any positives) and im sure many more that i did not list
so i clearly know as should everyone that cop>1 is totally an attainable goal, it been attained all over the world many many times. However i have noticed that there is this resistance to the idea that cop>1 is attainable, also that it is attainable threw a different medium like zero point energy,vacuum energy, radiant energy,gravity,magnetic's...
what i would like this thread to convey is this.
that although, at this moment i have not or at lest that i am aware of have achieved cop>1(just got into it, im an experimenter so im gonna experiment) although i have see a lot of practical video's and read reasonable material explaining why these other forms of energy could lead to cop>1 which i think they can, it would still be comforting to see a large number of individuals to be able to say yup i have.
the second thing i would like this to convey is
that although there are skeptics(which by the way is not a bad thing necessarily-to me everything depends on its contexts) there are also interested individuals looking for a little peer confirmation(kinda like me creating this thread). So the take away moment is if you encounter a skeptic or resistance instead of going on the offensive or defensive, present your (i guess ill call it argument for lack of a better word) argument with neutrality, first if its cop>1 doesn't exist give him the examples that at first he can relate to like the solar panel,wing mill... then explain there are other forms of naturally occurring energy that have not been taped into or have been that he is unaware of and this is one of them devices, from this point i see 1 or 2 thing happening. 1 the person will refuse to see that there is actually logic in your reasoning and it might need a deeper look, or actual investigation/testing done or 2 the person will see that there actually is logic in your reasoning and it might need a deeper look, or actual investigation/testing done(meaning bringing a new member to the fold or maybe better said bringing light into a clouded mind) . if 1 happens then i suggest not to waste your time as a good zen saying goes (thous that know don't need to be told and thous that don't know rarely listen) however 2 can happen.
one thing iv noticed that is sometimes happening is when someone is asking is that cop>1 there is a rejection to the individual for asking the question or ignoring the question and then these same people complain about how stupid everyone is and im wondering why that should take place, that doesn't make sense to me. im pretty sure you weren't born knowing you could get cop>1(im pretty sure there was a time when you couldn't read). Remember that those people are your human brothers and sisters and they are not so much different then you, you both have a that wants to give love and receive love, and you both can feel pain. So be conscious about how you approach your fellow brother or sister. if you try it this way you might be better received, and if not at lest less frustrated give it a try make an experiment out of it .
Don't focus on the problem focus on the solution.
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