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  • #16
    something interesting to consider..


    Time does not exist....
    Inpsiration comes in a flash, not a sequential passing...

    When you are sleeping you are in an environment, setting, there are people. Few are aware that they are dreaming, or that they have several dreams a night, different settings, different times, while they are asleep.

    Within a dream, everything usually makes sense. The mind fills in the blanks, sets structure, etc. Your dream environment may be very very life like to you in your state of dreaming. You may think of the past in your dream, 10 minutes ago, 1 hour ago, 1 day ago, it will be sequential and make sense because your mind has made it so.

    Who is to say that your waking life is any different? What makes you think that time is passing at all? Because something happened 5 minutes ago that led to this moment? Did it happen 5 minutes ago, or did your mind fill in the missing spaces to make this current situation fit into context?

    There is no past, it is a memory, there is no future it is not within the realm of experience, there is only the NOW, infinitely short and fleeting.


    Perhaps our learning consists of symbolic landscapes and scenes, not necessarily sequential, which our mind orders at any given moment to make coherent sense. We are unaware of this unless we have a "ground" outside of this realm to give us reference.

    Our ground to dreaming is "reality" so we know we are "dreaming". Awareness of a higher realm of consciousness, a new octave level, will give you ground and perspective on your waking life.

    This is how you start time traveling.

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    • #17
      I saw the future before it happens 5 times, the time between the visions and the events was not the same, each of the visions were far in the future than the earlier. 1hour 24h 36hours 1 week 1 year +-

      You wake up and simply know its going to happen.

      It always happened during sleep. When we dream we are only thoughts and thoughts are electrical impulses that travels very fast close to the speed of light.

      I developed a theory about it, the future is already happening so as the past is still happening, our memories are nothing more than space and time coordinates. We are just not very used to remember the future, but sometimes we can use the wrong time coordinates...

      The doors of perception must be opened in order to remember the future. Mushrooms and thinking can do this. Is never pleasant. I don't recommend cause you will get to know things that you should only see in the moment of your death.

      The indians in mexico uses for this purpose a plant called salvia divinorium, (guessing) the same i have used here for a while before the visions started to happening..I didn't expected it.. They used this as a mean for protection, the shaman aways knew when they were going to be attacked by other indians, so they use to hide over the threes and wait the others to leave after the attack.

      You probably will never dream about the numbers for the lottery, but only very decisive moments in your life, at least for me was like this.

      You don't really want to see the future. You get nothing to lose after you know whats going to happen.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Armagdn03 View Post
        I am sure time travel will be possible. It will happen through use of our own dormant mental power. No machines Necessary.
        In looking at some of the postings you may very well be right...it will come from our dormant mental powers...
        whether you call deja vu, preminitions, or dreams, our minds are trying to show us that we have the capabilities to go far beyound our current position.

        Bizzy
        Smile it doesn't hurt!

        Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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        • #19
          If you consider the Universe/Multiverse as a multi-faceted fractal figure you'd get this:

          from: http://www.energeticforum.com/145896-post52.html

          When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?” The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected? Rich then said, “That’s how it works!
          Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works Director Admitted In His Deathbed Confession |Latest UFO News| UFO 2011 Sightings|Alien Pictures|2011 Solar Flares|Disclosure Project|Web Bot

          [/QUOTE]

          Isn't he describing this:

          Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
          Just wanted to post this info because its representation is nothing more than a Fractal representation:

          Multiverse = Many Worlds, Say Physicists - Technology Review



          Enjoy
          so if all “All points in time and space are connected?" according to Ben Rich, i don't see why you can't travel through time, but i think you'd end up in a parallel universe resembling our own so as not to create time paradox (the grand-father paradox: see picture above)

          Originally posted by Armagdn03 View Post
          I am sure time travel will be possible. It will happen through use of our own dormant mental power. No machines Necessary.
          think of Jules Verne, Leanardo Da Vinci etc...and all the visionaries of the past....:
          “Magnetism is the King of All Secrets.” Paracelus, think of MRI's used today
          Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-01-2011, 02:20 PM.
          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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          • #20
            Or, there isn't ever a paradox. The route, the passing of time being often changed because of events following time travel by persons in the future.
            How would we know ?

            As I understand things...
            Upon passing from this world, time becomes immaterial, yet our conscious is still caught in the linear plod of time passing. We have to learn to disregard time...a structure that is within every piece of matter. The ageing device, the limiter of existence on this level we call life. All moments and all places can be observed at will. Interaction is not possible in a conventional sense.
            During my peak paranormal interest time of 2003-2008, any EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) or ITC (Instrumental Trans-Communication) was derived from spirits whose exit from this world was within approximately the last 100 years. Some people take longer to readjust, some shorter. Only residual energy dumps extend further back or persons with a severe emotional stress that has not been resolved.

            We don't seem to have much concept of loops, regarding time. Time as a string, a lengthening string, but with one end only fixed by our determination as the start of time. In such a theory, it could be imagined that wherever we place the loop start point may only be a point along a string which starts much further back in time.
            We could make a coil from that string, much like a Tesla tower, we could tie sections of that string such that events are locked.
            We may be living in a loop right now, which would explain the birth, rise and destruction repeats that many feel is human existence.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post
              Or, there isn't ever a paradox. The route, the passing of time being often changed because of events following time travel by persons in the future.
              How would we know ?

              As I understand things...
              Upon passing from this world, time becomes immaterial, yet our conscious is still caught in the linear plod of time passing. We have to learn to disregard time...a structure that is within every piece of matter. The ageing device, the limiter of existence on this level we call life. All moments and all places can be observed at will. Interaction is not possible in a conventional sense.
              During my peak paranormal interest time of 2003-2008, any EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon) or ITC (Instrumental Trans-Communication) was derived from spirits whose exit from this world was within approximately the last 100 years. Some people take longer to readjust, some shorter. Only residual energy dumps extend further back or persons with a severe emotional stress that has not been resolved.

              We don't seem to have much concept of loops, regarding time. Time as a string, a lengthening string, but with one end only fixed by our determination as the start of time. In such a theory, it could be imagined that wherever we place the loop start point may only be a point along a string which starts much further back in time.
              We could make a coil from that string, much like a Tesla tower, we could tie sections of that string such that events are locked.
              We may be living in a loop right now, which would explain the birth, rise and destruction repeats that many feel is human existence.
              Hi Mark
              I have often thought about that.... If we can time travel ,who is to say that time hasnt been changed multiple times and we simply would never realize it.

              Also what is an "acid house" ?
              Bizzy
              Smile it doesn't hurt!

              Jesus said,"...all things are possible through God." Mk10:27

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              • #22
                It has been proven that the matter can store information, at least acoustic, that has been irradiated to it. In some tests you can prove that some solid matter can store sounds like a cassette.

                The proces to obtain the information is very similar to a tape recorder, but not exactly the same. If information can be recovered from the past, then it would be possible to see the past again. And if it's able to be seen... maybe you can transport information to it?
                Attached Files

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                • #23
                  Natural frequency phase shifted envelope harmonic spectral modulation
                  Ermmm, or something like that. It would explain hauntings somewhat, would explain many things !

                  Acid House ?
                  All was based on a little silver box that was a failure, until someone tweaked its resonance settings ! Highly applicable to current experiments.

                  YouTube - ‪TB-303 loves the TR-909 too‬‏


                  I'd like to time travel back to around 1990 and buy a TB-303 for about $40 !

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Slider2732 View Post
                    Natural frequency phase shifted envelope harmonic spectral modulation
                    !
                    explain us more about that.

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                    • #25
                      But you're the scientist !


                      OK, well, all that was off the top of the head. Let's have a look at what it could entail, just for fun.
                      The line was "Natural frequency phase shifted envelope harmonic spectral modulation"
                      Natural - The energy is placed in the point in time, at the location coordinates. Matter was either filled with extra energy in the waves of the event, or had a natural and inbuilt method of accepting such energies. No fancy machinery was used to introduce the energies, so, 'Natural' has to be employed to extract the energies too. A resonating condition of matching in to out, but which closely and thoroughly mimics natural conditions that placed the energy there in the first case.
                      Frequency - the natural frequency of the material in the environment at those coordinates will be either different in every way to other materials, or contain exactly the same inbuilt structure as any other matter. Being as hauntings and other paranormal events appear not to be limited to location environ (albeit there are theories about quartz and other minerals) then matter itself would be the container, the outer layer of the mechanism being merely that container. A rock is a rock, but holds aetheric energy just as well as a tree, a land mass or water, all is matter. So, the natural frequency of the object, the main matter, the environ could release the energy contained within by matching the vibration levels of that container. Negate the effects or the presence of the matter structure and we are left with the inner memory mechanism.
                      Phase shifted - 90 degree resonance. The aether channel doorway. From discussions lately, the 90 degrees phase shift of a shorted coil or other components in a circuit enables 100ns extractions of aether energy. While our information is thought to be contained in an aetheric medium, the phase shifting unlocks the door to the energy and allows amplification of the extracted data.
                      Envelope - frequency harmonics reference. There will be an envelope within which all the data is stored. Be it actual binary type on and off encoding or another method of time snap storage...the range of frequencies will be held within an envelope to be tuned to and within.
                      Harmonic - this relates to quarter waves and the frequency of the stored signals. Earth's cycles and resonances, 7Hz to 12Hz, Schumann resonances and more...all used and included as harmonics of the signals and data. I could have added Fibonacci numbering too, for use as the frequency steps lol
                      Spectral Modulation - the method of containment and tuning of the equipment to harness the stored information. Carrier waves and detector circuits, based upon the full established frequencies of the stored data. Each section of the frequencies containing the stored information become mapped, reshaped, modulated to be reformed into a replay of the original event.

                      There, if anyone read through all that then it probably took longer to read than to write

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                      • #26
                        All i know is in my younger days when i used to have a spliff, 10 minutes seemed like 2 hours. When we perceive time to be slowing down, our brains may just be a bit more active.

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                        • #27
                          Forces and Time

                          The Physics of Time. Please note, the term "gravitons" used in this publication may vary from other definitions commonly used for gravitons. The greater the force that impels a body through space, the shorter the time and the shorter also the space to be traversed. Thus, if the force were infinitely great, time and space would be infinitely small, they would cease to exist. But again the force is not everything, because in reality it does not exist. All that exists is the impulse that is applied to the body in space and imparts momentum to it. The body's movement is then only limited by the resistance it has to overcome. What does exist then is the momentum that arises from the impulse of the force, and not the force itself.

                          "Force fields" in nature could also be considered time fields. It is interesting that the various fields are currently referred to as force fields and that their action is described as "gravitational forces", "electric forces", "magnetic forces" and "nuclear forces". They are not forces but only appear as forces because the observer is in a different unit of time or a different dimension of time to the observed field. UFO's travel in the dimensions of Time, and not in the dimensions of Space.

                          The shortest distance between Point A and Point B is a straight line, but the shortest time between Point A and Point B is a curve if the impulse is utilized to it's fullest potential. In the below image, the middle path wins and not the straight path nor the path which dips the lowest. The image was taken from this video on how to utilize the impulse to it's fullest potential. It is the product of the force and the time for which it is applied that is important (the impulse). All three paths in the below image each have the same net fall, so the potential energy should be equal for all three paths, but this isn't the case, because the ball which travels the greatest distance in the shortest amount of time had to have acquired more total kinetic energy than the balls on the other paths. This additional energy was lost in transversing a greater distance, but it's total kinetic energy was greater than the gravitational potential alone. Where did this additional kinetic energy come from? It came from the Time Potential, and Time itself is directly related to the impulse. Here's another video showing the longest path wins, even though they have the same net fall and the same gravitational potential. It should now be obvious the gravitational force doesn't exist in reality, and it is the Time Potential which is giving the balls on each path it's kinetic energy.

                          For those who say Time is only a measurement and is a man-made concept, then so must the distance or space between two points, because the distance or space between those two points is also a measurement. Using a "yard stick" to measure distance or space is no different than using the motion of the earth around the sun to measure time. Atomic clocks, which uses the oscillations of the caesium atoms to measure time, will run faster on satellites orbiting the earth than the atomic clocks located at the surface of the earth. As you raise an atomic clock from the surface of the earth and into space, then you will notice there is a "Time Gradient" around the planet. If this Time Gradient is reversed, where time runs faster nearer the surface than farther away from the surface, then we would be repelled away from the planet instead of being attracted to the planet. Mass follows the path of least resistance, which is the path of least time. Atomic clocks being used as a measurement for time is no different than a yard stick being used to measure the distance or space between two points. If Time doesn't exist, then Space doesn't exist either. In fact, both Time and Space will cease to exist if the force which impels a body through space is infinitely great. In reality they do not exist. All that exists is the impulse that is applied to the body in space and imparts momentum to it.

                          GB

                          Last edited by gravityblock; 07-02-2011, 02:30 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Hi GB, How is this applied to traveling backwards in time, say 100 revolutions of the Earth around the sun ? Because that is my concept of real time travel as most people would envision it. Getting into a machine and going back or forward in time to a predetermined point a certain amount of revolutions of the Earth around the Sun, or to a point relating to some other measure of time involving periods observed by people.

                            I still don't get it, time is a measure of cycles, if you skip cycles they are missed not traversed. Big difference.

                            Cheers

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                            • #29
                              Just say I was to draw a square on the ground with 10 meter sides and markings at every meter, to get to the diagonally opposite corner I must follow the line to traverse the markings but if I just walk accross the middle and do not follow a line, I get there by a shorter route but I did not travel half the distance of the line and i did not traverse the markings.

                              The line represents time it could be a circle or a curve, the markings represent cycles or periods (time), to traverse time it needs to be experienced, I think.

                              That would be like saying I traveled 100 miles to get somewhere when in fact I took a 20 mile short cut.

                              Cheers

                              P.S. I think it was Keely spoke of this subject and explained fairly well why it is impossible, I think it was Keely, I can't find it now, I'll look some more.
                              Last edited by Farmhand; 07-02-2011, 03:13 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Time is motion

                                Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
                                I still don't get it, time is a measure of cycles, if you skip cycles they are missed not traversed. Big difference.

                                Cheers
                                Time isn't a measure of cycles. Time is related to motion. Space is related to the lack of motion. If we traversed the space between Point A and Point B with an infinitely great force, then we would traverse this space in 0 time, regardless of the distance you measured between the two points with a yard stick. Both Time and Space is infinitely small in this example (they cease to exist), relative to the person who traversed this space. If we traversed the space between the two points with an infinitely small force, then the time it takes to traverse this space would be great. Both Time and the Space between the two points would be great in this example, relative to the traveler. The yard stick is a stationary outside observer and doesn't correctly represent the time or the space between the two points for the traveler. Just a different way of looking at things.

                                GB
                                Last edited by gravityblock; 07-02-2011, 04:58 AM.

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