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  • #61
    Spacetime May Have Fractal Properties on a Quantum Scale

    As scale decreases, the number of dimensions of k-Minkowski spacetime (red line), which is an example of a space with quantum group symmetry, decreases from four to three. In contrast, classical Minkowski spacetime (blue line) is four-dimensional on all scales. This finding suggests that quantum groups are a valid candidate for the description of a quantum spacetime, and may have connections with a theory of quantum gravity. Image credit: Dario Benedetti.
    “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • #62
      Hi Monsieur, That artical doesn't wash with me, there is far too much mumbo jumbo in there to be useful to anyone but a theoretical physicist, all these extra dimentions are purely theoretical and only serve to validate or rationalise the maths, if enough numbers are crunched almost any desired figure can be got.

      A quote from the article.
      (PhysOrg.com) -- Usually, we think of spacetime as being four-dimensional, with three dimensions of space and one dimension of time. However, this Euclidean perspective is just one of many possible multi-dimensional varieties of spacetime. For instance, string theory predicts the existence of extra dimensions - six, seven, even 20 or more. As physicists often explain, it’s impossible to visualize these extra dimensions; they exist primarily to satisfy mathematical equations.
      I don't see how they expect to be taken seriously when they just make stuff up to fit the numbers they come up with.

      I honestly think most of it is baloney.

      Logic is the key in my opinion. I can't think of one usefull thing that has or could come from the experiments at cern because they are working by the same teoretical mumbo jumbo and they are looking for and experimenting for what they expectto find. Which we know is far simpler than they make out.

      Last edited by Farmhand; 07-29-2011, 04:39 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
        Hi Monsieur, That artical doesn't wash with me, there is far too much mumbo jumbo in there to be useful to anyone but a theoretical physicist, all these extra dimentions are purely theoretical and only serve to validate or rationalise the maths, if enough numbers are crunched almost any desired figure can be got.

        A quote from the article.


        I don't see how they expect to be taken seriously when they just make stuff up to fit the numbers they come up with.

        I honestly think most of it is baloney.

        Logic is the key in my opinion. I can't think of one usefull thing that has or could come from the experiments at cern because they are working by the same teoretical mumbo jumbo and they are looking for and experimenting for what they expectto find. Which we know is far simpler than they make out.

        I'm only sharing with you information, that i find through my research on a fractal universe, you are free to view it the way you want ...you should check out my last post here,
        http://www.energeticforum.com/149285-post66.html


        Logic is the key in my opinion
        i do agree with you on the mumbo jumbo, but at the end of the line they conclude that space time is a fractal construct which according to the workings of a fractal universe makes sense :
        “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • #64
          let me put it another way more logical:

          you evolve in a space time construct, as you grow old or move forward through space (you live on a moving spaceship ) and time, their marks start to imprint themselves on you, and all have a fractal shape, they are a reflection of the time/space fractal construct...(my opinion )

          ps: Cern is a waste of time, "god particule", i wonder what else they are going to come up with....it's a circus of names :
          Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-29-2011, 08:32 PM.
          “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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          • #65
            Hi monsieur, I agree about the fractal stuff that makes sense. But what is "space time" ? From what I can tell there is space=distance and time a measure of periods. But what is "space time" ? Is an example of space time where I am and when ? The way I see it that is just my location (space) on the planet at a certain point in a certain cycle (time).

            Yeah they come up with some gooduns at CERN haha at one stage I remember they were saying that the LHC was being sabotaged from the future, hahahahaha, OMG. Some excuse for not being able to find what they dreamed up.

            Now talking of light speed,at CERN they have collided particle's at relative speeds of almost double the speed of light, they can do this by accelerating two particle's in opposite directions at near light speed. From a simple man's point of view all it did was cause a lot of energy to be dissapated and they took some picture's the transient phenomena. They are looking for something that cannot be seen by definition, it has no form or mass, dark matter or dark energy is just the Aether, the dirac sea, the vacuum whatever it be called by whomever, as we know it is energy in flux cycling back and forth, it cannot be seen until it becomes matter then it is no longer the Aether anyway it is matter so it is entirely impossible to see dark energy, logically.

            I cannot believe that they think it is OK for them to spend our hard earned dollars (taxes) on this stuff and so much of it. It is funded by most countries together. In my opinion it will come to be one of the most wateful and useless things ever done in the name of science. In my opinion most of them are off with fairies and should give all the money they were paid, back.

            Nothing they do there will help me.

            Cheers

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
              Hi monsieur, I agree about the fractal stuff that makes sense. But what is "space time" ? From what I can tell there is space=distance and time a measure of periods. But what is "space time" ? Is an example of space time where I am and when ? The way I see it that is just my location (space) on the planet at a certain point in a certain cycle (time).

              Yeah they come up with some gooduns at CERN haha at one stage I remember they were saying that the LHC was being sabotaged from the future, hahahahaha, OMG. Some excuse for not being able to find what they dreamed up.

              .....

              I cannot believe that they think it is OK for them to spend our hard earned dollars (taxes) on this stuff and so much of it. It is funded by most countries together. In my opinion it will come to be one of the most wateful and useless things ever done in the name of science. In my opinion most of them are off with fairies and should give all the money they were paid, back.

              Nothing they do there will help me.

              Cheers
              At the end of it all, it will end up as a museum of waste of money, where they ask people to hold a cfl bulb to show them they can light up bulbs wirelessly...
              “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • #67
                I found this article quite interesting, and i think you might like it

                Is Time Going Faster For You, Too?

                It is said that “the older you get, the faster time goes by.”

                All of us would agree that, indeed, the days and months were as slow as molasses when we were children, in contrast to how much faster the years went by in our adulthood.

                Even granted that, I’ve noticed that in the last few months, time seems to be zipping at an accelerated rate.
                Before It's News
                “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • #68
                  It is said that “the older you get, the faster time goes by.”

                  All of us would agree that, indeed, the days and months were as slow as molasses when we were children, in contrast to how much faster the years went by in our adulthood.

                  Even granted that, I’ve noticed that in the last few months, time seems to be zipping at an accelerated rate.
                  Life is like a roll of toilet tissue, the closer to the end of the roll, the faster it goes.

                  GB

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by gravityblock View Post
                    Life is like a roll of toilet tissue, the closer to the end of the roll, the faster it goes.

                    GB
                    “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • #70
                      "In this spiritual world there are no time divisions such as the past, present, and future; for they have contracted themselves into a single moment of of the present where life quivers in its true sense... The past and the future are both rolled up in this present moment of illumination, and this present moment is not something standing still with all its contents, for it ceaselessly moves on."
                      D.T. Suzuki

                      "Let us forget the lapse of time; let us forget the conflict of opinions. Let us make our appeal to the infinite, and take up our positions there."
                      Chaung Tzu

                      "It was taught by the Buddha, oh monks, that... the past, the future, physical space, ... and individuals are nothing but names forms of thought, words of common usage, merely superficial realities. "
                      Anonymous

                      "In space time, everything which for each of us constitutes the past, the present, and the future is given en bloc... Each observer, as his time passes, discovers, so to speak, new slices of space time, which appear to him as successive aspects of the material world, though in reality the ensemble of events constituting space time, exist prior to his knowledge of them"
                      Physicist Louis De Broglie

                      "It is believed by most that time passes; in actual fact, it stays where it is. This idea of passing may be called time, but it is an incorrect idea, for since one sees it only as passing, one cannot understand that it stays just were it is.
                      Zen Master Dogen

                      Etcetera Etcetera Etc.

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                      • #71
                        there are allot of people who have had lost time in there lives i am one and have talked with others as well who have had the same experience and the details seem the same one wasw during a trip some 150 miles it took 6 hours and we did not stop along the way it seemed to be going as normal but more like we were going slow but normally and no one else on the road .
                        the other was pretty much the same no people nothing moving more like the twilight zone then everything started and all the sound and people came back and lost 4 hours like my watch just jumped ahead.
                        i have no further explanation for or about this nor do others who have experienced this either that i have talked to.
                        i often wonder if the world is a composite of individual wills as a fact and if action and change of thought changes the path and placing we are in or is there a governing will that corrects for actions taken.
                        this would be like asking are you lucky? or are you unlucky? both are a relovant answer and an action from either person can be used to change events on a world wide scale. i do not understand why this is but know it is and works.
                        Martin

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by nueview View Post
                          there are allot of people who have had lost time in there lives i am one and have talked with others as well who have had the same experience and the details seem the same one wasw during a trip some 150 miles it took 6 hours and we did not stop along the way it seemed to be going as normal but more like we were going slow but normally and no one else on the road .
                          the other was pretty much the same no people nothing moving more like the twilight zone then everything started and all the sound and people came back and lost 4 hours like my watch just jumped ahead.
                          i have no further explanation for or about this nor do others who have experienced this either that i have talked to.
                          i often wonder if the world is a composite of individual wills as a fact and if action and change of thought changes the path and placing we are in or is there a governing will that corrects for actions taken.
                          this would be like asking are you lucky? or are you unlucky? both are a relovant answer and an action from either person can be used to change events on a world wide scale. i do not understand why this is but know it is and works.
                          Martin
                          i hope this will help

                          "Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its
                          pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are
                          identical in nature, but different in degree
                          ; extremes meet;
                          all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be
                          reconciled
                          ."--The Kybalion.
                          Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question (from my friend Dave45 )
                          Last edited by MonsieurM; 08-01-2011, 11:23 PM.
                          “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • #73
                            i only intended to point out that there are people who have ecperienced time delineation so it is obvious that it is a part of the physics of this world.
                            how or why is the great mistery.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by nueview View Post
                              i only intended to point out that there are people who have ecperienced time delineation so it is obvious that it is a part of the physics of this world.
                              how or why is the great mistery.
                              along the same line, have you ever heard of zone de Silencio



                              The Zone of Silence (Zona de Silencio)

                              “Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • #75
                                i have heard about the zone of silence.

                                i got a paper from one of the people i work with on dale pond about john keely and think it is worth your looking into as it makes allot of sense heating is my objective right now i would need a whole thread to go over all i have on just this subject but here is a link of some older work i did.

                                ‪Galloway Magnetic Induction Heater...Part 1/4 series‬‏ - YouTube

                                my work is taking me in some new directions and does not belong in this post.
                                Martin

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