Renewable Coal, Oil and Gas (Is there really an energy crisis?)

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Renewable Coal, Oil and Gas - Hydrocarbons of Geological Origin

Could oil and other hydrocarbons be a continuously produced natural geological resource that is, contrary to what we are being told, not running out any time soon? In 1949, oil production was predicted to peak in 1970 and decline thereafter. Are fossils from animals and plants necessary for crude oil and natural gas to be generated? The Origin Of Oil (Video) - Leroy Fletcher Prouty Jr. Colonel, United States Air Force

With abiotic oil becoming more and more of a confirmed reality, the supposed oil scarcity and the high prices are taking on the looks of a scam, rather than a real emergency of diminishing supply. This is not to say we shouldn't get off oil, because to burn it, is polluting the atmosphere in a horrible way, and using oil for energy keeps us dependent on an energy monopoly that has no reason to exist, except our own failure to develop and use alternatives to it.

GB

[mathewrobert]

Renewable Coal, Oil and Gas - Hydrocarbons of Geological Origin

Could oil and other hydrocarbons be a continuously produced natural geological resource that is, contrary to what we are being told, not running out any time soon? In 1949, oil production was predicted to peak in 1970 and decline thereafter. Are fossils from animals and plants necessary for crude oil and natural gas to be generated? The Origin Of Oil (Video) - Leroy Fletcher Prouty Jr. Colonel, United States Air Force

With abiotic oil becoming more and more of a confirmed reality, the supposed oil scarcity and the high prices are taking on the looks of a scam, rather than a real emergency of diminishing supply. This is not to say we shouldn't get off oil, because to burn it, is polluting the atmosphere in a horrible way, and using oil for energy keeps us dependent on an energy monopoly that has no reason to exist, except our own failure to develop and use alternatives to it.

GB

Coal is a non-renewable source of energy. It's take long time and extreme conditions for organic matter to turn into coal.
I agree with you that oil is becoming scarce day by day. But use of oil is more harmful to the environment. Below are some of its disadvantages -
•Even though it’s relatively easy to transport, oil is a non-renewable energy source.
•Most of the time the transportation is done by ships. The marine life gets effects if there is any spill.
•Burning oil generates carbon dioxide and ‘greenhouse’ gas which affects mankind adversely. Oil is neither clean nor efficient source of energy.
•Though the demand for oil is huge and is beneficial for mankind it also harmful to the environment producing toxic elements.

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Coal is a non-renewable source of energy. It's take long time and extreme conditions for organic matter to turn into coal.

In Dr. Thomas Gold's book, The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth of Fossil Fuels, he explains that dinosaurs, plants and the fossils from those living beings are not the origin of oil and natural gas, but rather generated from a chemical substance in the crust of the Earth. There is strong evidence everywhere which suggests the origin of oil and natural gas doesn't originate from fossils or organic matter. They want you to believe it takes a long time for the earth to produce coal, oil, gas, etc so you will believe there is an energy crisis and a shortage so they can raise the prices to increase their profit margins. Who first suggested the idea that these so-called fossil fuels isn't a renewable resource? The oil industry and TPTB? Of course.

You're saying its a non-renewable energy source without looking into the facts or questioning where this idea first originated. I suggest you read the article referred to in the opening post, watch the short video on the origins of oil mentioned in the first post of this thread, read the book by Dr. Thomas Gold on the myths of fossil fuels, along with doing your own research before you say it's a non-renewable energy source. I hate to bust your bubble, but the earth may be producing it in great quantities and at an extremely fast rate.

I agree with you that oil is becoming scarce day by day. But use of oil is more harmful to the environment.

You can not agree with me on this issue, because I never said oil is becoming scarce day by day. I said, "the supposed oil scarcity and the high prices are taking on the looks of a scam, rather than a real emergency of diminishing supply". You took what I said way out-of-context, which seems to be the norm around here. The only thing we're in agreement on is burning the hydrocarbons is harmful to the environment, which I gave as a reason for us to find cleaner alternatives. I don't support oil. I also don't support their tactics in creating a "false" energy crisis for their personal financial gains either. This scam needs to be exposed, just like the other similar scams, such as, saying people are the cause for global warming in order to push a "carbon tax" through for financial gains.

Below are some of its disadvantages -
•Even though it’s relatively easy to transport, oil is a non-renewable energy source.
•Most of the time the transportation is done by ships. The marine life gets effects if there is any spill.
•Burning oil generates carbon dioxide and ‘greenhouse’ gas which affects mankind adversely. Oil is neither clean nor efficient source of energy.
•Though the demand for oil is huge and is beneficial for mankind it also harmful to the environment producing toxic elements.

This thread isn't about the disadvantages of oil and it's harm to the environment. I mentioned in my opening post, that this is the reason for us to abandon the so-called fossil fuels for cleaner alternatives. Please don't try to hi-jack this thread with a lengthy discussion on how it's bad for the environment. Everybody knows its bad for the environment, so there is no need to further discuss this off-topic issue here. The purpose of this thread is to make people aware that there may not be an actual energy crisis. Think about it. If there really was an energy crisis, our governments would be forcing wind, solar, hydro, bio fuels, and other alternative energies on individual home owners and at the local community levels. They would be helping people to get off the grid, instead of ensuring people stay on the grid. Follow the money.

GB

[Farmhand]

Yes I believe there is abiotic oil and the fossil material found in it would be there because the oil seeps through the layers of fossils and soforth.

In all reality if all of the vegetable and animal matter from the begining of life on earth is converted to oil eventually then where did it all go. Vegatable and animal matter cannot be converted to hyrocarbon fossil type oil and stored under the earths surface indefinately.

Imagine if we never took any oil and used it what would happen would it just build up and up ? Until what ? That doesn't make sense.

I think oil is created by a chemical and phisical process deep within the Earth and is burned as it is made and made as it is burned (in the earth) and some is merely forced through the fossil layers where it is drilled for and collected ( a very minute amount of what is actually down there), with some fossil material in there conveniently to dupe us into thinking it is a finite resource. It is finite in that only a certain amount is produced at a certain rate.

Nonetheless oil is dirty and should stay where it is meant to be by nature. Oil under the ground, Electricity in the atmosphere. Oil is dirty. Electricity is clean. We need to look up for our energy not down. The last thing we want is all the stuff from inside the planet on the outside. Taking the inside of anything and putting on the outside never looks good and should be avoided if possible.

Cheers