MIB are now monitoring skype

[StweenyA]

It's been done before.

Well did you hear about the guy in UK who used a MP3 player to record information sent over the cable modem to the ATM? He stole alot of money.

[Savvypro]

Behold the 8 Fallacies of Computing:

1. The network is reliable.
2. Latency is zero.
3. Bandwidth is infinite.
4. The network is secure.
5. Topology doesn't change.
6. There is one administrator.
7. Transport cost is zero.
8. The network is homogeneous.

If you replace network with say: software, computer, device, processor etc. The list above then apply's to anything computer related. The import bit being that they all apply to everything.


That old chestnut along the lines of: if your not doing anything you shouldn't be doing, then you have nothing to worry about. Or the other one: only criminals use encryption.

Is complete and utter bull sh*t.

Try medical records, online transactions, accessing you bank account online, tax info etc. Do you really want all that info going across the wires in clear plain text...

No?

Lets move on...

The Money program (BBC finance documentary program, here in the UK) did an episode where senior intelligence officers/police officers as well as security erperts clearly stated that organised crime and terrorists don’t use the internet or phone networks or anything else that can be easily taped. They use messengers, actual real people who are trusted to deliver messages. That gem should be all you need to know about this spying bull sh*t.

When browsing, Cookies can be shared across any websites, and if you have flash, these cookies can even be shared across browsers.

Cookies don't work like that, only the server that instructed the browser to create the cookie can request the information stored in that cookie from the browser.
The browser is the only thing that creates cookies, and it acts as gate keeper to the cookies. The amount of info that can be stored in a cookie is browser specific, but the amount is limited, very limited.

A good description of what cookies are used for is simply the equivalent of the re-entry stamp you get at say night clubs, theme parks etc. The privacy problems are with the data stored on servers which the info in the cookies point to.


Anyway if their monitoring us, then we can royally fu*k with them. How you ask?

By becoming part of the noise.

As the old saying goes: if you want to hide something, hide it in plain sight.

The key to this is randomness.

[MonsieurM]

Anyway if their monitoring us, then we can royally fu*k with them. How you ask?

By becoming part of the noise.

As the old saying goes: if you want to hide something, hide it in plain sight.

The key to this is randomness.

[Slider2732]

And related to those thoughts are the ways I surf.

I surf without actually being ME that surfs, have done for years. It's random, it's not my surfing, my interests, who I am.
The MIB's are sure that I have a lot of knowledge about. oh for example - Womens handbag styles through the ages. endangered fish species, curtain offers in Oklahoma stores, good deals on used auto's, Lowe's BBQ's. None of those are of interest, but I seem to have spent a long time looking through related sites, so therefore i'm that person right ?

A classic, is to surf around YouTube, click a 10 minute video and turn the sound down and walk away. The MIB believe you viewed a video that might somehow be against their stupid wishes...but you didn't and THEY REALLY CANNOT KNOW !
Case in point, they probably believe i'm clued up and overly interested in 9/11 conspiracies.

On your next shopping trip, pick up an opposite type to your usual bread and a newspaper you never read..then give them to your next door neighbour.
If the MIB want info, give them wrong info.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, allow me to offer a little wisdom, as nothing is new under the sun.
I would suggest saying whatever you want, wherever you want.
When one goes into fear, you give your power away instantly, trust me on this, I've experienced it first hand multiple times.
As Chevy Chase says from caddyshack, ""I'm going to give you a little advice. There's a force in the universe that makes things happen. And all you have to do is get in touch with it, stop thinking, let things happen, and be the ball.
"Remember Danny - Two wrongs don't make a right but three rights make a left."

And this force is based in pure unconditional love, it does not know fear, it only knows that anything is possible.
These so called mib's, send them your love, as they are in a box and have forgotten who and what they are, infinite consciousness.
peace love light
tyson

edit: oh here's the clip if anyone wants to watch hehe
YouTube - ‪Caddyshack - Be the Ball‬‏

[desktopspy]

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NOT just FBI but also you can monitor SKYPE with SKYPE monitorign software.
Voice Chat Spy Recorder software for Skype, Yahoo Messenger, MSN, QQ, etc.
Skype Voice Recorder

[Allcanadian]

@Skywatcher

Hi folks, allow me to offer a little wisdom, as nothing is new under the sun.
I would suggest saying whatever you want, wherever you want.
When one goes into fear, you give your power away instantly, trust me on this, I've experienced it first hand multiple times.

I would agree and the thing to remember here is that we are the good guys trying to make the world a better place and our intentions are honest and sincere.
In this respect intent matters, on the other hand their actions amount to little more than some pervert peeping in peoples windows. I find it amazing how the human mind can justify such things they know intuitively are morally wrong and yet they will do these things for money. Remember all these people are getting paid to do something they know is morally wrong.

To be honest I find all this comical that people who call themselves mature and responsible adults would be sifting through my mail or conversations. As well if my supervisor ever asked me to spy on other employees I would probably laugh in his face and tell him to grow up because at some point a man has to act like a man and not a child simply following others. I would be willing to bet not one person in these agencies has the integrity to stand up to their supervisors and say what we are doing is wrong and this is probably why it continues.

A man is not defined by his ability to blindly follow others like a child and do what he is told he is defined by his ability to act independently of others.

Regards
AC

[citfta]

Off topic, but!

Hi Allcanadian,

This post will be off topic, but right in line with what you have posted. I have just finished a book called "When a Nation Forgets God, Seven Lessons We Must Learn from Nazi Germany" by Erwin W. Lutzer. It is an amazing look at how a whole nation of people can be convinced to give up all their moral values. If you promise people a good economy and plenty of food and a roof over their head they will ignore all evidence of wrong and follow any leader no matter how evil he is. Just look at what is going on in the U.S. right now. We murder millions of unborn children and pretend there is nothing wrong with it. We are following in exactly the same steps of Nazi Germany even though history has shown how wrong that was.

Respectfully,
Carroll

[PhysicsProf]

Some very astute points; I esp enjoyed Slider's!

Now, this warrantless search stuff is affecting our research, and I give a recent example, but without names.

XXX shipped his device for me to run some tests, in a wooden box that he custom-made for it. It cost about $130 to ship via Fedex. It was fully assembled (in a straight line, one piece). Working and ready to go.

But it came to me in a black-plastic container, with popcorn and shredded-cardboard packing (which he did not use), DISASSEMBLED, in two pieces (motor and unit). Further, the nuts holding the unit together were all loose or gone -- 3 nuts loose, 4 nuts GONE. I later found the four nuts on the bottom of the crate.


Sent the shipping number and photos to XXX via email, he emailed back:

quote:
First thing the [phone] number you gave me is not working, 2nd thing I DID not ship that in that box and it was fully assembled when I shipped it!
What is going on here?

After I called him via phone, then my phone "starting working" again...

He said unit was SEALED (and I could see evidence of that, an orange silicone material), so they broke the seal.

But who?

He asked me to spin the shaft on unit, I did so. It made a grinding sound. Not good. plates are rubbing.

Later I took it apart with XXX watching via skype. The shims and disks inside were not even IN THE CORRECT order. Whoever put it back together botched the job; if they even cared.


Ruined as far as my testing it is concerned -- it has to go back to him for proper re-assembly and re-alignment, and perhaps new disks.
TEST ABORTED.

He formally complained to Fedex. Then called back -- they had "lost" his complaint... I called Fedex and complained also, finally transferred to a supervisor. He assured me that Fedex does NOT remove nuts from bolts on shipments. I said "who did it" -- he could not say. I asked, if I pushed this, could I find out WHO did it? "No, probably not" was the reply.

XXX and I decided to get back to research, stop trying to find out WHO, when we know WHO but of course no one will say...

It is troubling when this stuff hits home.

PS -- the research carries on. We may have to do more person-to-person exchanges where possible.

[Farmhand]

Hi PhysicsProf, I'm not sure of the protocol but surely fedex parcels are
scanned for drugs, explosives and such things by dogs ect. if not it would be a
risk free transport option for drug couriers ect.. Maybe the item was flagged by a
dog or x-ray machine as being suspicious and was searched by officers of law enforcement
"not" fedex employees. Often these managers will not give over any info they
don't have to unless pressed or asked with specific language, eg. asking who
would have opened it is asking him for a persons name, maybe you should
have asked if it was possibly searched for contraband and the procedures
they use for the detection of such contraband and the actual department
government or otherwise responsible for searching.

I would recommend when resending, the box is sealed and the contents
shown prior to sealing by way of uncut video tape up to the point of fedex
taking possession, then videoing uncut the taking into possession on your
end, the opening and inspection of the package.

With that evidence they would likely need to give a reason and compensation.

If you let it go they'll do it again to others. All they need to open and search
a package is a flagging from a dog or a suspicion from an X-ray I think.

A dog could flag a package if a person who handled drugs also handles the
package, it could be anyone, not necessarily the sender.

Personally I would "sting" them but as described above I would video tape
sufficient evidence. Then see what happens. Obviously someone is lying.

Cheers

P.S. The searching of suspected parcels is of course necessary, but if a
mistake is made people should be compensated, which would indirectly make
them use more care when searching, no complaints, no compensation, no
problem, no care. Simple.

....

[PhysicsProf]

I need to add that the device has already been sent back to XXX, using a different carrier. Hoping to avoid problems, I shipped it in two separate boxes, both about the same size.

The box with the motor and mount arrived first, "1 of 2 boxes", even though the shipment was supposed to go together. Not so unusual there except that UPS stated on the tracking record that

"The receiver requested a hold for a future delivery date. UPS will attempt delivery on date requested. / Delivery rescheduled. "

An email from XXX clarifies that he, the receiver, did not request a delay - he wrote,

Why would I take the 1 box and not the other? What the hell is going on?

Thus, UPS lied.

The second box, which contained the device itself, did finally arrive a day later... XXX said he will take it apart and see what he can do...