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  • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
    I would suggest you use that double coil you made a while back to shape the vortex ice, it keeps coming back...

    http://www.energeticforum.com/151033-post266.html
    thats the coil Im using , I want to use a normal coil and see the difference just havent had time, to much going on with theory
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    • this is the coil Im using, its wound like the magnetic field

      that is the one you were referring to right.
      Dave
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      • Leedskalnin said the south field pulls more and the north field push's more,
        the north field needs to point down toward the aluminum plate
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        • If we could pull the either field(lenz field) into the center of the core from above we would have more energy than we could use

          It would create the funnel vortex like you posted
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          • Its 12:30 and I cant sleep for thinking of the project,
            I got it, we need a coil shaped like a funnel
            Good night folks
            I hope
            Dave
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            • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
              Leedskalnin said the south field pulls more and the north field push's more,
              the north field needs to point down toward the aluminum plate
              good thinking

              the kybalion:

              principle of polarity

              -the positive corpuscles seeming to exert a certain influence upon the negative corpuscles, causing the latter to assume certain combinations and thus "create" or an atom. This is in line with the most ancient Hermetic Teachings which have always identified Masculine principle of Gender and Feminine Poles Electricity
              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                thats the coil Im using , I want to use a normal coil and see the difference just havent had time, to much going on with theory

                make the same in a funnel the opposite of the bashar antenna or like the video you posted

                Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation - YouTube

                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • I also found this:

                  Hendershot Used Phi (or so I speculate!!) - YouTube

                  Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                  • If the vortex coil was made using the Fibonacci scale, and you used the copper screen to shield the sides of the coil and move the lenz field up and into the top of the coil it would be like water down a drain
                    This is the answer, I can feel it.
                    Dave
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                    • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                      make the same in a funnel the opposite of the bashar antenna or like the video you posted

                      Self Assisted Oscillation in a Shorted Coil - Bucking Magnetic Field Oscillation - YouTube

                      Yes in this vid they speak of the A vector, the A vector is the energy moving into the coil that feeds the magnetic field, this is the field we need to move into the top of the vortex coil.
                      Use pure water the dielectric properties of the water is what we want.
                      Dave
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                      • Folks I have to admit Im more than a little nervous, if this works the implications are astronomical,
                        There are several people who know who I am and if harm comes to me or my family they have been asked to spam the net with that information.
                        Please keep us in your prayers.
                        May God bless you and draw you close to Him
                        In Jesus Name
                        Thank You
                        Dave
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                        • God always stands with the brave at heart
                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                            thats the coil Im using , I want to use a normal coil and see the difference just havent had time, to much going on with theory
                            This is what I've been doing for the past few days.

                            I've noticed thast the bubble tips form like tornadoes -- from the 'top down' so to speak. From the widest-to narrow point. All of the bubble configurations have been created by the dissolved gasses, in various concentrations (M-state water, or 'oxygenated'/vortexed water). (You can still get bubbles without M state, or spun water)

                            I used two wine bottles, and magnets in a vortex bottle configuration to spin the water. I'm not sure if it produces M state water, or oxygenated water, nor am I sure it matters. Oxygen is influenced by magnetism, isnt it? If it is, the idea I have on how the bubbles form in their vortex configurations still works.

                            When we are freezing the water, the dissolved gasses orient themselves, with the apex pointing towards the blotch wall, or towards the 'neutral center' -- where by virtue of winding a special coil, have aritifically cancelled the fields.

                            Think of how there is a big plastic island in the middle of two ocean currents. The little floating bits (plastic/dissolved oxygen) are rammed against each other, where we would observe no 'net movement', but are quite 'forced into place' and held in thier respective positions by the balanced current.

                            Thank you for being brave, dave.

                            I think it is the structured gasses which you can strike with the voltage spike -- and similar to how the shape of trees behaves like a Tuned LC circuit -- I think the shape in which we force those dissolved gases (oxygen, being the dissolved gas with the most importance for superconduction -- essentially the crystaline lattice structures the oxygen to 'receive' the high frequency)#

                            Inside the air spirals, I think that the oxygen is very close to being 'conductive'. (Say, isnt ORMUS a gas? More conductive dissolved gasses that would orient themselves in the 'cancelled region' towards the blotch wall) I have not struck them with a High voltage power supply yet -- I need to buy more MOSFETS for my flyback transformer.

                            Anyone know of any cheap HVDC power supplies?

                            Man, I need to build a tesla coil.....

                            I am Still experimenting.

                            ==Romo
                            Last edited by petar113507; 09-10-2011, 05:25 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                              If the vortex coil was made using the Fibonacci scale, and you used the copper screen to shield the sides of the coil and move the lenz field up and into the top of the coil it would be like water down a drain
                              This is the answer, I can feel it.
                              Dave
                              I have recently had a very similar idea, wrapping the coil in a cone according to phi, as the receiving, 'Step down' coil. It reminds me very much of russell's cone coils, which he said produced OU based on a 'power multiplication principal'.

                              Are you talking about moving lenz (the counterbalancing force to our EMF) to the apex of the coil spiral? Do you have the second receiving coil wound in a 'cancelling' way (bifilar and the other cancelling fields)?

                              I do not have a cancelling coil to 'receive' the impulse. I think it would be better to capture the HV

                              I think the receiving coil would work very similarly, if you were to use a tesla coil as a receiving antennae. (By the way MM, the idea about using spray on glass, to induce dielectric breakdown around the tesla coil HV out -- very clever )

                              Specifically, the relation between the secondary, and the primary -- using a primary wound around the high voltage center (trapped, or conducted through the secondary).

                              Ice seems to freeze in an egg shape. From the outside in.



                              ==Romo

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                              • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                                If the vortex coil was made using the Fibonacci scale, and you used the copper screen to shield the sides of the coil and move the lenz field up and into the top of the coil it would be like water down a drain
                                This is the answer, I can feel it.
                                Dave
                                here is an easy coil to build, and once made it can be turned into a vortex shape: (used by orgone builders ) How to make an SBB coil





                                The Winding of the Cosmic Clock Spring Walter Russell



                                ps: good to read you petar113507


                                Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-10-2011, 11:43 PM.
                                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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