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  • It is also called a Fermat's Spiral -- from Wolfram MathWorld






    Fermat's spiral (also known as a parabolic spiral) follows the equation


    in polar coordinates (the more general Fermat's spiral follows r 2 = a 2θ.) It is a type of Archimedean spiral.[1]

    In disc phyllotaxis (sunflower, daisy), the mesh of spirals occurs in Fibonacci numbers because divergence (angle of succession in a single spiral arrangement) approaches the golden ratio. The shape of the spirals depends on the growth of the elements generated sequentially. In mature-disc phyllotaxis, when all the elements are the same size, the shape of the spirals is that of Fermat spirals—ideally. That is because Fermat's spiral traverses equal annuli in equal turns. The full model proposed by H Vogel in 1979[2] is



    where θ is the angle, r is the radius or distance from the center, and n is the index number of the floret and c is a constant scaling factor. The angle 137.508° is the golden angle which is approximated by ratios of Fibonacci numbers.[3]


    Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-10-2011, 09:59 PM.
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    • side note:

      from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post156237



      Variation of the Ankh Set up: The Phi Set up (like the symbol see above link )



      The Physics/Cosmogeny of
      Walter Russell and Lao Russell




      The golden ratio — an exact 'magic' number often claimed to be observed when taking ratios of distances in ancient and modern architecture, sculpture and painting — has been spotted in a magnetic compound.
      I have been reading a lot of Tesla's work and early on he experimented with cone shaped secondary coils. This is an interesting configuration and has come into particular interest regarding the generation of powerful electric arcs, as opposed to the generation of long electric arcs. Since Tesla's goal was to transmit power through the atmosphere he was primarily interested in generating intense electromagnetic radiation. The larger windings at the bottom of the secondary are able to absorb the most current from the primary, while the tapered format linearly increases the voltage in a proportional amount according to the electromagnetic falloff according to the distance from the primary. These conical coils often had no top load capacitor, and relied on the internal capacitance of the coil itself. This experiment clearly shows the distributed parameters in the components. I have built a Bi cone coil and have just started testing it. So far the results are impressive and will warrant further study.


      It's all about spiral be it solid (like a coil) or emf (principle of mentalism )

      a collection of Walter Russell's drawings:

      Walter Russell Vortex Video - The Cosmology of Twin Opposing Electro - Magnetic Vortices - YouTube
      Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-11-2011, 01:39 AM.
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      • Originally posted by petar113507 View Post
        This is what I've been doing for the past few days.

        I've noticed thast the bubble tips form like tornadoes -- from the 'top down' so to speak. From the widest-to narrow point. All of the bubble configurations have been created by the dissolved gasses, in various concentrations (M-state water, or 'oxygenated'/vortexed water). (You can still get bubbles without M state, or spun water)

        I used two wine bottles, and magnets in a vortex bottle configuration to spin the water. I'm not sure if it produces M state water, or oxygenated water, nor am I sure it matters. Oxygen is influenced by magnetism, isnt it? If it is, the idea I have on how the bubbles form in their vortex configurations still works.

        When we are freezing the water, the dissolved gasses orient themselves, with the apex pointing towards the blotch wall, or towards the 'neutral center' -- where by virtue of winding a special coil, have aritifically cancelled the fields.

        Think of how there is a big plastic island in the middle of two ocean currents. The little floating bits (plastic/dissolved oxygen) are rammed against each other, where we would observe no 'net movement', but are quite 'forced into place' and held in thier respective positions by the balanced current.

        Thank you for being brave, dave.

        I think it is the structured gasses which you can strike with the voltage spike -- and similar to how the shape of trees behaves like a Tuned LC circuit -- I think the shape in which we force those dissolved gases (oxygen, being the dissolved gas with the most importance for superconduction -- essentially the crystaline lattice structures the oxygen to 'receive' the high frequency)#

        Inside the air spirals, I think that the oxygen is very close to being 'conductive'. (Say, isnt ORMUS a gas? More conductive dissolved gasses that would orient themselves in the 'cancelled region' towards the blotch wall) I have not struck them with a High voltage power supply yet -- I need to buy more MOSFETS for my flyback transformer.

        Anyone know of any cheap HVDC power supplies?

        Man, I need to build a tesla coil.....

        I am Still experimenting.

        ==Romo
        Yes it is the disolved oxygen that is making the structure, if you put an aluminum plate and ground it to a grounding rod the structured water will go to it and actually stick to the plate, then when the coil is pulsed you will get voltage in the plate, I had 1/4 inch spark jumping from the plate lead to ground, this voltage had bite.
        I also noticed the A vector field could be moved up or down with a screen, if you built a vortex coil with the V pointing towards the aluminum plate and used the screen to move the A vector field to where it flows over the vortex coil, you will have taped into the either field that feeds the magnetic field, it is also the field that causes bemf in a coil.

        Bemf--- when the A vector field is established it flows past the coil windings and into the magnetic field but when the coil is turned off the A vector field is still flowing and collapses into the coils windings.

        If you can move this A vector field into the top of the vortex coil when the field is pulsed it will follow the structured ice into the alumimum plate instead of collapsing into the coil windings, you will have created an electron pump.
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        • It will be a superconducting electron pump.
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          • interesting short videos

            sciencetosage's Channel - YouTube

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            • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
              interesting short videos

              sciencetosage's Channel - YouTube

              MM thanx Im watching the vids now, very interesting
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              • When watching one of the vids it showed the magnetic field of a torioid and I realized the A vector potential field runs inside the toroid thats why a toroid has qualities that are different than a solenoid.
                I will have to think on this awhile
                Dave
                If we use say ferrite cores,
                In a solenoid the magnetic field runs in the ferrite core, and the A vector field surrounds the core
                In a toroid the A vector field runs in the ferrite core and the magnetic field surrounds the core
                Last edited by Dave45; 09-11-2011, 02:21 AM.
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                • There is a test you could run...it may seem weird...but you'll have spin...

                  just hear me out...a dc pulsed Rodin coil with a spinning neo ball in the middle on top of your water to freeze.....

                  Antigravity Part 5 - The Vortex Coil (How to built) - YouTube

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                  • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                    MM thanx Im watching the vids now, very interesting
                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • Realizing that there is an A vector potential field and how it relates to the magnetic field has opened a lot of doors.
                      Its the big picture
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                      • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                        the planets and stars of a galaxy run in the electric field. the center of the galaxy is a magnetic core, what they call a black hole is the magnetic core of our galaxy.
                        Its starting to make since now
                        I can answer this one. How we can tap into this field is by disturbing the natural flow of the field (say with HV spike (arcs for instance) that disturb a large area of this balance field) then placing an antenna (connected to a load) to collect from what nature sends (you see we just make a less resistant path than air is) to re-balance this disturbed field. This has taken me a few years to see clearly and I just last week understood it. We are floating in a vast sea of energy. I at first thought we had to anchor to a place that was not moving so we could sense and use this "sea power" but we do not have to do that (all the metal in the world may not be able to take that much current anyways) all we need do is disturb the cohesiveness of the atom to atom bonds and "nature" will on it's own seek to re-balance itself. If we provide a path of least resistance with a working load on it then we can reroute that balancing energy into doing another job.

                        This example of high voltage disturbance causes the cohesive bond of atom to atom to be shifted (like when a pebble is dropped into the water, the waters surface tension is broken) and then the sea of energy makes it re-balance or cohesive again. I believe this is what all these device we been trying to figure out really are doing since Tesla and even others before him.

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                        • Originally posted by Hope View Post
                          I can answer this one. How we can tap into this field is by disturbing the natural flow of the field (say with HV spike (arcs for instance) that disturb a large area of this balance field) then placing an antenna (connected to a load) to collect from what nature sends (you see we just make a less resistant path than air is) to re-balance this disturbed field. This has taken me a few years to see clearly and I just last week understood it. We are floating in a vast sea of energy. I at first thought we had to anchor to a place that was not moving so we could sense and use this "sea power" but we do not have to do that (all the metal in the world may not be able to take that much current anyways) all we need do is disturb the cohesiveness of the atom to atom bonds and "nature" will on it's own seek to re-balance itself. If we provide a path of least resistance with a working load on it then we can reroute that balancing energy into doing another job.

                          This example of high voltage disturbance causes the cohesive bond of atom to atom to be shifted (like when a pebble is dropped into the water, the waters surface tension is broken) and then the sea of energy makes it re-balance or cohesive again. I believe this is what all these device we been trying to figure out really are doing since Tesla and even others before him.

                          I agree. The only possible explanation why Earth is rotating and why its magnetic field can resist so powerful solar wind is because there is inflow of energy which makes it such. The resonant stage when resistance is null makes a kind of "magnet like " structure which allow this energy to accumulate maybe like a vortex, but we need a kind of trigger which force that energy to lag for a moment and change direction into our resonant circuit. Resonant circuit is a must but I still do not understand how we direct cosmic energy into it. It must be like a bell which is singing from a wind - our work is to hand bell where wind is blowing or redirect wind.
                          The other problem is to load resonant circuit without damping oscillations.

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                          • Sorry for the spelling tried to correct it but these darn computer's
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                            • The A vector field moves into the core, like water down a drain
                              and we can manipulate this field.
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                              • Let me show you what i see and you let me know what you think

                                In the picture you posted Dave, you see (in a simplified manner )

                                3 Elements: 2 vortex and a donut (Rodin coil most likely )

                                You'll find these three element all over Mother Nature's work...as if they can only exist as a "triptych "....you follow me so far

                                so i would venture to say if you create two solid version and join two of these three elements; for instance, one Rodin coil and a vortex coil ; the third element will come into existence ie: the third vortex....your 3 6 9

                                bonus:
                                you control the third vortex thanks to the second coil:



                                John W. Keely
                                ...When these harmonics form unisons or direct harmonic relations the two vibrating aggregates and their chords of vibration are said to be sympathetic to each other. This unison of frequency dictates that what happens to one vibratorily happens to the other simultaneously.
                                ps: no one ever thought of placing a dc pulsed Smith (Caduceus Coil ) in the center of a dc pulsed Rodin Coil....would make an amazing antenna
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