Harvesting Energy From the Sun Using Crystals

[MonsieurM]

so we know that copper and iron are two of our main building element

with water....this one is special, we need to test the various type of water:

we have distilled (maybe several times ) , alkaline , acidic, magnetized (vortex trap )

you can also mash up things....for instance vortex trap used on distilled water etc...

and finally you have coil design to produce the frozen vortex



and i am of your opinion Dave, the true beauty of nature is in its simplicity while still being complicated (women...can't live without them..... )

keep it simple....a magnet is already a producer the E Field all you have to do is push it....

see also this post Dave, you'll understand http://www.energeticforum.com/157367-post603.html

[/COLOR][/I][/B] (principle of mentalism: all is vibe )

I forgot to add, throughout the research i posted, Important: It's always High pulsed Energy be it sound/light/emf etc....

[MonsieurM]

If powered by an nst , this should go overunity but will have the same problems as the Don Smith device, high frequency high voltage, ZZZ may have solved this problem.

by using the Normal Tesla Coil as a receiving Antenna;and connect it to the Don Smith Set up ; you should be able to scale it down to a usable voltage 9 6 3

If it can emit, it can receive

[Dave45]

I have switched computers
The noose is tightening

About ten years ago I was thinking about the mark of the beast as expressed in the Bible and wondering were it would start, and thinking America would never stand for this.
But now in retrospect I see it will start here in America, they started taking away our rights and Americans will trade their rights for security.
They will chip everyone before this is over, when the dollar falls you will take a chip if you want the money you had in the bank.

19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

[Dave45]

Any kind of paper currency whether it be 401s,fiat money, stocks and bonds anything wont even make good toilet paper.
They will probably outlaw gold as they did in America's last depression our only avenue is physical silver but they will probably outlaw that too.
Dave

[MonsieurM]

Then build yourself an Ankh Set up, and start producing gold

It would work on coupling Tesla coil With water collection from the atmosphere

If you have electrostatic, you 'll have water

[Dave45]

I will not post anymore idea's on the net until I find out whats in the new bill
Dave

[MonsieurM]

Isn't there a public website where you have access to that kind of info....

and legal blogs that talk about it

you still have the freedom of information act on your side...

next up, Tesla coil used for atmospheric water collection (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post157618 )

[MonsieurM]

Choice of dimensions gauge and turns are of great importance too

nothing is done at random in nature...Golden Mean (Rodin Math will help )

Apply Rodin Math to all the Numbers Mentioned on the Don Smith Set up, you'll see a pattern appear

all you have left is fill in the blank

for example I just learned that 432Hz is Nature's Resonance (http://www.energeticforum.com/156657-post115.html )

if i apply Rodin Math: 4 + 3 + 2 = 9

COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT AL LEVELS.

An orderly arrangement between wave lengths (universe is all wave ie objects too ) establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways. This harmonic cascade of inter-connected-ness is the structure of our hologramic universe, perceptible as ecstasy.

Fifth Way Mystery School

[MonsieurM]

See any similarity's

Principle of correspondence

"As above, so below; as below, so above." And the grasping of this Principle gives one the means of solving many a dark paradox, and hidden secret of Nature. There are planes beyond our knowing, but when we apply the Principle of Correspondence to them we are able to understand much that would otherwise be unknowable to us. This Principle is of universal application and manifestation

also called biomimicry

[MonsieurM]

Dave, I have been thinking about the ice battery...we know how to create one ice vortex...from your drawing and from our research isn't it best to have two opposing ice vortex(with aluminum sandwiched in the center ):

[Dave45]

Dave, I have been thinking about the ice battery...we know how to create one ice vortex...from your drawing and from our research isn't it best to have two opposing ice vortex(with aluminum sandwiched in the center ):

yes ice showed us the way but Im not sure we want to use ice, the Don Smith device or one like it may be the way to go.
If you use the principle without such high voltage in your primary it should work.
I think Don understood this too, in his vid he uses a neon dimmer to limit voltage, like he said its a lot easier to limit the voltage going in that to control it later.
The polarity of the primary is of importance it controls the polarity of the vector field.
Dave

[petar113507]

Sorry on the late reply here.

Turns out, you're not supposed to short the coil directly over the battery. I was supposed to put a resistor into place before polarizing the coils.
So, haste makes waste. Gonna get resistors tomorrow, and throw the 9 volt battery packs into action with some of those coils. Read you loud and clear about those spirals, and the two cones intersecting. I can try an aluminum sheet as a "ground" in between the two vortexes, but I'll need to do some more experimenting/learning as to how the aluminum ties into harvesting.

Dave, you said you used aluminum as a ground? Were the cracks attracted to the screen/plate?

If yes, I have some interesting pictures, and some ideas for you.

First paper cup:


Second paper cup -- Big crystal sticking out of top. Cracked nicely.


Third:



One of the crystals not shown (poor image quality) also cracked, but the crack was not directly produced from the crystal skin. Crack formed closer to the outside of the ice, nowhere near the crystal -- conducted through the copper wire to the outside of the cup. This leads me to think we can control the direction of the crack, from both pizeo, and coil.

Also makes me think that hitting the coil with a really really high voltage impulse might also crack the ice more (probably not violent explosion/cracks, but better be safe than sorry). Will take shielding precautions when applying the voltage spikes from the water drop generator.

The best image with the most cracks....


And this water was the "spun"/vortexed water (4-5 north pole magnets inward towards the middle creating a bucking magnet stresspoint, connecting two wine bottles). Spun the water manually for about 20-30 mins.

As this water was freezing -- after the outside layer had frozen the solid "egg" shape in the ice, I drilled a hole in it, and stuck some chunks of broken quarts crystal in it. This was by far my most effective "crack" at it.

The trick seems to be directing the cracks to where you want them to go. I seem to think that attaching a "ground" path for the cracks to go, can at least give them a general direction to crack in. I have also found that by sizing little "dixie" cups appropriately, I can freeze the water in the cups, tear them out of their mould & put them in a larger PVC pipe so that I can isolate how to make the conducting channel properly. After the center of the conducting channel has been made, freezing them with thrice boiled water for the insulating portion. (should resemble the shape of an insulated wire when finished).

I'm working at forming the conducting ice in seperate chunks for a "straight up" tall frozen pillar. When I get that working, I will move on to making it circular.

Finishing making the water drop generator more powerful -- I think you can use multiple coils, and plastic funnels (gatorade bottles with hole drilled in lid) to recondense the water into a liquid stream, and drip it though another coil.

Also have tried multiple, smaller holes drilled in various bucket bottoms to produce finer water streams, which break up into mist more easily and in a shorter height than a solid water stream (to make the gap between each funnel shorter). Have not yet tried mixing any chemicals with water to increase the strength -- I think that addition will only help the sparks appear more rapidly.

I got swamped with homework, and will be staying up all night so that I can do both research, and school.

Will post later when all is done.

==Romo

[petar113507]

I keep looking at these ice chunks with coils in them -- and sticking two of them together, strongly remind me of a capacitor.

conductor, dielectric, and conductor in sandwich form. In an ice pillar, I see the ice as being a lot of space in between each conductor -- but still a cap.

Here is what I am currently thinking -- how to harvest the energy of the breakdown impulse

Dielectric breakdown is usually unfavorable in caps, but in this case -- we are growing a path for the breakdown to occur. When that pulse hits the coil inside the ice, what is the cap's behavior going to do?

I ask that, because bedini's batteries "ring" as they charge, after getting hit with that impulse spike, don't they? Will there be an induced charge difference on the other end of the cap, on the other conductor (coil) ? (assuming you grew the conducting path with two separate coils, in two separate cups)

I am thinking;
maybe I can take advantage of the "ringing" of the cap before/as the breakdown occurs.
Maybe I can take advantage of the breakdown conducting path, and harvest energy with an external coil wrapped around the breakdown path.
Maybe I can take advantage of the large potential induced in the other coil, as breakdown occurs.

I think that ice is still the way to go to at least research the effects at hand which produce the energy gain -- and when I understand how that gain "works", I will naturally be able to transfer that knowing into different devices/structures which embody the same "working" principal.

Write later,

==Romo

[MonsieurM]

I think that ice is still the way to go to at least research the effects at hand which produce the energy gain -- and when I understand how that gain "works", I will naturally be able to transfer that knowing into different devices/structures which embody the same "working" principal.

Write later,

==Romo

This is the way to go petar113507 ,

As both of us know well that water is a subtle energy "detector" amongst other things , it will give you the 3d view of the emf you are playing with .

ps: awesome results freezing the water + quartz

the water used was it triple distilled then "vortexed" as in Vogel experiment or just plain water?

[petar113507]

This is the way to go petar113507 ,

As both of us know well that water is a subtle energy "detector" amongst other things , it will give you the 3d view of the emf you are playing with .

ps: awesome results freezing the water + quartz

the water used was it triple distilled then "vortexed" as in Vogel experiment or just plain water?

The water was not distilled -- only boiled three times to remove the dissolved gasses. Then vortexed through the wine bottles. This shows me that the gasses mix when it is vortexed through the wine bottles, not around a crystal (like vogel).

On a side note --
I just thought of a way to wind the fermat spiral into the bottom of a smith coil. The current stalls out at the bottom -- Was reminded of this by the fancy designs on the samuri sword. I want to try that configuration in a cone/rounded fermat spiral on the bottom, versus flattened out.

Freezing different coil configurations tonight, will post results tomorrow. Should be interesting

==Romo