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  • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
    Ya know Id bet if we could get the A vector field to move into the top of the coil as we discussed earlier we could get it to spin, anytime anything moves in a vortex pattern it experiences acceleration - more kinetic energy-higher energy yield.
    I know I keep saying this but Im going to wind the cone bifilar coil tomorrow , if we can spin the A vector field without spinning the coil we're home free. Free energy that is
    Last edited by Dave45; 09-13-2011, 02:01 AM.
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    • pulsed dc will give you spin....

      It has both properties of AC and DC....see what both( ac and dc ) do to a neo ball in a rodin coil
      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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      • I know how we can get the A vector field to spin
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        • I just had to post this

          Three sets of three the outsides are primarys wound in opposing directions the inside coil is the secondary wound with both wind directions.
          All three fire into the secondary in one direction and then all three fire into the secondary in the other direction. Tesla's 369
          remember the A vector field runs around the solenoid but inside the toroid
          If wired right the bemf from the primary's one direction would fire the opposite primary's in the other direction.
          The primary's that werent being fired would be harvesting energy I know Im reaching.
          Last edited by Dave45; 09-13-2011, 03:23 AM.
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          • As i was searching the symbol Flower of Life, i found this tidbit of info

            Flower of Life - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

            Tube Torus

            The geometric figure of a tube torus represented by the Seed of Life.


            A basic one dimensional depiction of the "Tube Torus" shape is formed by ratcheting the Seed of Life and duplicating the lines in its design. In Physics, the Tube Torus is considered a basic structure in the study of Vortex forms. Some[who?](like: Meru Foundation Research: Secrets of the Hebrew Letters by Cynthia Gage for Atlantis Rising magazine) say the Tube Torus contains a code of vortex energy that describes light and language in a unique way, perhaps as something of an Akashic Record.[4




            Tesla and and Leedskalnin had the same opinion...
            see post: http://www.energeticforum.com/148673-post110.html ;



            -----add to the above the following info

            The golden ratio — an exact 'magic' number often claimed to be observed when taking ratios of distances in ancient and modern architecture, sculpture and painting — has been spotted in a magnetic compound.
            Access : Solid-state physics: Golden ratio seen in a magnet : Nature

            Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-13-2011, 11:47 AM.
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            • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
              I just had to post this

              Three sets of three the outsides are primarys wound in opposing directions the inside coil is the secondary wound with both wind directions.
              All three fire into the secondary in one direction and then all three fire into the secondary in the other direction. Tesla's 369
              remember the A vector field runs around the solenoid but inside the toroid
              If wired right the bemf from the primary's one direction would fire the opposite primary's in the other direction.
              The primary's that werent being fired would be harvesting energy I know Im reaching.

              What happens when the current passes through a Rodin coil; it creates a spin magnetic flux in it center (see all the experiments on Rodin coil; Shawn's post on this http://www.energeticforum.com/155413-post430.html )

              and as you said:

              Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
              the A vector field of the solenoid would be running the same as the toroid,and both magnetic fields would be running the same too, very interesting idea, will think on this awhile.
              I have the toroid in now, will let you know if anything turns up.

              Dave
              the A field of the smith coil will be spinning too in resonance with the toroid, and will give you the third element: the spinning emf Tube Torus (Smith Coil )


              my belief is to keep it simple
              Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-13-2011, 12:01 PM.
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              • Take a pencil and make a Smith coil:

                look at the result from on top (looking at the tip of the pen ) what do you see:

                hint: it is hidden in this picture





                how to make Smith Coil:

                Caduceus Coil Building - YouTube

                Charge in a Toroidal B Magnetic Field - YouTube

                Magnetic field in a toroidal coil - YouTube



                Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-13-2011, 01:32 PM.
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                • This is from the permanent magnet




                  Im going to put a permanent magnet in with two north fields facing each other to see how it effects the A vector field.
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                  • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                    Now Id like to see that fired up
                    Sort of along the same lines of what I was thinking of yesterday. It's funny how, if we humans are advanced antennae -- is it not possible that we can pick up on the same "frequencies"?

                    Either that, or it seems we all had awfully similar ideas.

                    Take the both the secondary in this picture and wrap it around into dave's circle. Either a torrid, or a rodin in between the two primaries (pancake bifilar).

                    MM, I think we could even make the whole thing smaller -- I have been trying a few days to produce this same ice pattern to one of your smith coil's. Your smith coil was wrapped something yellow.
                    My picture here shows the ice formation that I think I'm looking for -- I know I've seen it before. (couldnt find picture)

                    The red lines are the "cone" conductor I was looking at growing seperately in a layer -- and attaching above the ice pillar.

                    http://i.imgur.com/IujvI.png

                    Now, I have other ideas about the "ice pillar", or ice cone.

                    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2668/...65aa42a49d.jpg

                    A rodin coil around the middle here? (Untested, but I think it might pickup more current, instead of high voltage because of its orientation on the cones)

                    Speaking of cones -- Russell said he had some coils that produced OU because they worked "with" the life/death cycle of electric current/voltage -- Looked something like this.

                    http://www.reocities.com/capecanaver...9/russell2.gif

                    So I was thinking -- I think tesla, and russell knew about the way that the electric pressure wanted to flow. Generating the highest pressure at the implosive vortex.

                    http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...ceusvortex.jpg
                    Bottom left picture of those four.
                    If you superimpose two of those pictures back to back -- you get something that looks very much like russell's picture.

                    http://i.imgur.com/1TtHf.png
                    I drew a red square around the center, like russell had a circle around his center.

                    Opposing cones, in both configurations -- are what I will be testing. Just thought I'd share.
                    I think there's something to those cones. I'm not sure what yet, as the idea is fuzzy -- but I see potential in all of these configurations.

                    ==Romo

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                    • @petar113507

                      you should definitely check this page starting with post #527

                      http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...netism-18.html

                      want to see the Ice Caduceus, take a small plastic tube, wrap a caduceus around (i use my mobius/caduceus coil...but let's start simple ) hook it up to a 9 v battery and freeze...you'll see the vortex
                      Last edited by MonsieurM; 09-13-2011, 06:36 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                        good thinking...basics first for comparison

                        watch the following vid, it is of great interest: around 40 sec (smith coil )

                        James Designs NESTA Vortex Globe.flv - YouTube

                        Dave, you are showing people a simple manner to visualize the fields they are working with....you are making the immaterial material ....principle of polarity

                        and how they can manipulate them; this (ice field visualization ) is applicable to many other experiments, discussed in various threads in this forum

                        found an old hard drive neo , I'll Smith coil it and hook it up to a battery see what gives.


                        by the way, a while back i ran an experiment where i shorted not on purpose (bad contact) a mobius / caduceus coil in liquid water, then unhooked the coil...and froze it ... I wish i had taken pictures but very interesting result....next up mag + smith

                        If we do nothing else Im just thankful and hopeful that we helped in a small way
                        Dave
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                        • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                          Take a pencil and make a Smith coil:

                          look at the result from on top (looking at the tip of the pen ) what do you see:

                          hint: it is hidden in this picture





                          how to make Smith Coil:

                          Caduceus Coil Building - YouTube

                          Charge in a Toroidal B Magnetic Field - YouTube

                          Magnetic field in a toroidal coil - YouTube



                          The vid for the caduceus coil is wrong
                          The last vid for the magnetic field in a toroidal coil is wrong too.

                          In the caduceus vid he's just twisting the wires and if you look both winds are the same direction they have to be one right hand twist and one left hand twist. refer to the pics I posted.


                          In the toroidal coil vid he has it backwards the electric field (A vector field) runs in the toroid.
                          Dave
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                          • This is why Ed Leedskalnin's pmh works is because its the A vector field that runs through the iron.
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                            • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                              This is why Ed Leedskalnin's pmh works is because its the A vector field that runs through the iron.
                              And collapses into the coils when the connection is broken
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                              • you are correct, to make up for it here is a website that shows how to make one

                                caduceous coil experimental handbook and my experiments with it.

                                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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