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  • #31
    Guys this is in Chinese not sure at what i am looking at...claims ot be a replication.

    web:keshe¿ÉÀÖÆ¿¸´ÖÆ(Öйú)_ÔÚÏßÊÓƵ¹Û¿´_ÍÁ¶¹ÍøÊÓƵ keshe
    keshe¿ÉÀÖÆ¿¸´ÖÆ(Öйú)_ÔÚÏßÊÓƵ¹Û¿´_ÍÁ¶¹ÍøÊÓƵ keshe

    There is a successful test about cola bottle in china.

    I just got told there are people local to me who bought 2 generators..so will try and hunt them down too. (thanks john)

    Ash

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    • #32
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by DrStiffler
      @ashtweth & All

      Anyone that makes a silly statement such as 'Power Generator' must be viewed with extreme caution. There is NO Power Generation, there is only consumption and can be measured as Power. Power requires the involvement of time.

      Power, and Energy are not created, Energy is transformed to a form that can be utilized in expressed power during use (time) energy is expended and converted back into some other form.

      There is no possibility that energy in to a system of form (A) can generate Power and come out of the system as energy (A). Energy (A) enters and exists as (B) & n...

      Save your money folks.
      I disagree with the first paragraph of Dr Stiffler's post as far as electrical
      energy and power goes.

      Like many words in English language the word "Generate" can have several
      meanings which can be seen to be similar in meaning.

      Generate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

      Definition of GENERATE

      1
      : to bring into existence: as
      a : procreate, beget
      b : to originate by a vital, chemical, or physical process : produce <generate electricity>
      2
      : to be the cause of (a situation, action, or state of mind) <these stories…generate a good deal of psychological suspense — Atlantic>
      3
      : to define or originate (as a mathematical or linguistic set or structure) by the application of one or more rules or operations; especially : to trace out (as a curve) by a moving point or trace out (as a surface) by a moving curve
      (I disagree with the first example in the link though. Windmills mill grain and
      stuff. A wind powered electricity generator is what generates electricity.)
      Just like a Diesel generator does not generate diesel , it is actually a
      diesel powered electricity generator. A wind generator would be a device that
      generates air movement (Wind) like a Fan.

      Examples of GENERATE

      windmills used to generate electricity
      This business should generate a lot of revenue.
      We hope to generate some new ideas at the meeting.
      His theories have generated a great deal of interest among other scientists.
      Her comments have generated a good deal of excitement.
      They have been unable to generate much support for their proposals.
      If we don't generate power then how do we get it, it's just common language.
      We can generate electricity which has current and voltage which is power.

      We can generate wind with a wind generator or wave forms with a wave form
      generator. We can generate lots of things.

      He would be better to just say we cannot generate energy, or create it, but
      energy is not power and he is lumping them together. In the second
      paragraph he is equating power to energy and they are not the same.

      Power is the rate at which energy is delivered or dissipated (transformed).

      To use a bucket of rocks for an example, if the rocks in the bucket represents
      the energy as an amount, if the rocks were dropped on your foot one at a
      time the energy would be applied slowly, if they were all dropped at once then
      the energy would be applied all at once, the energy is still the same but the
      power is different. In the later case all the energy is applied at once lots of
      power for a short time, but in the former case the energy is applied slowly
      over a longer period of time.

      Power is not energy they are different.

      Energy is a measure of work, or is work and power is a measure of how the work is done
      in relation to time and value.

      If you use a device to make volts and amps from a source of stored energy
      like coal or gas then we do generate power in my opinion. And we do it so we
      can utilize the energy, we transform the fuel energy into electric energy by
      generating power so that the electric energy can be applied to a load in
      varying ways, energy is just energy but power can be high voltage low
      current or high current low voltage depending on how we generate the power
      to be.

      I think we can say power is generated the way we want it. But energy is just transformed.

      Cheers

      P.S. I think Keshe can go in the same basket as Meyl and Don Smith as far as
      I am concerned, I think they are suspicious and I see no reason to trust or
      believe them.

      ..
      Last edited by Farmhand; 02-06-2013, 12:38 AM.

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      • #33
        Ash,

        Now if thats a fraud then obviously the generator is...perhaps people should do some digging on that
        Healing techniques are extremely difficult to proof or disproof as the mind can cure the body from any known disease. You can never be sure of how a person is cured by a medicine, a method, him/herself, or a combination there of. The certificate Keshe has is probably easy to get. Remember that he has some strong financial backing (persuation).

        For me, after seeing all Keshe videos on youtube, hearing his story, seeing his experiment and reading his work (for as far as I could get it for free), there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that the basis of his theory is BS.

        One important clue is his mention of the role of dark energy as a building stone of matter.
        There is no such thing as dark matter!
        Dark matter was dreamt up by scientists who found that cosmology could not be explained by gravity alone, there was simply not enough matter. But the solution to this problem lays in electricity. If you include electric forces in your models, there is no more need for "dark matter". (google for "electric universe")
        This Keshe is juggling with "interesting words" that few people can fully grasp, thereby impressing people with his "knowledge", suggesting that he knows something that they do not. If you really study what he says, you will find that it is nonsense.
        Complete, utter, total, absolute nonsense.

        So I would turn it around and say: "his theory is crap, his experiments a joke, his generator will not work and so his healing technique will probably be a fraud too".
        I would not waste more time on that.

        Ernst.

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        • #34
          >The certificate Keshe has is probably easy to get

          We would have to talk to a naturpath to verify that .
          any how, ill be hopefully having news about the demo soon
          Till then we could all speculate till the cows come home

          Ash

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