* SPECIAL EVENT * August 4, 2011, 7pm Pacific Time Zone

[WeThePeople]

...does one really need to ask permission
where to openly discuss a subject...

I'm seconding this impression,
if this is real (Google has nothing validated!)
then why the shadows introduction of it ?

It stinks of pyramid scheme marketing

I feel like I've just been drive-by infomercialed.

All respect intended, this wasn't about energy.

Well, unless you include personal energy into it.

Yes, you did provide what was promised.

The product represented is awfully expensive,
I want to give it a fair try for myself and my wife,
we are both handicapped now, so a fair test.

Peter's endorsment was a significant contribution !

But I get the impression this is pyramid marketing sadly.



You asked we not share the link
for the basic PDF overview file,
so I won't.

But for the few that (Obviously) signed up
and had the email/phone/code to know that
they "Couldn't" successfully get on the call.

I am sending them the link.

I don't feel that is betrayal of your request,
technology will never be 100% compatible,
and you should have offered them this anyway.

After all,
you know they are legit.

The product price is the killer,
is there long term thinking ?

Is a plan to establish a significantly reduced price point
for a long term purchase commitment being considered ?

You'll hate this post,
but it is what many others are thinking...

[WeThePeople]

Hmmmm, I tried to edit my above post to edit in a compliment
for providing a link to signed-up people to a session recording
to compensate for expected technical failures,
to negate my suggestion it should be done.

I cannot save changes...

I suspect the servers are ubber-busy still.

[WeThePeople]

OK, I'll ask the question...

Why-o-why did you feel this needed to be declared in private like this ?

Making people sign-up to a mailing list to get a phone-code is odd.

Making people around the world get up,
or stay up until desrespectful hours of the day was wrong.

This could have easily been an audio file or YouTube vid...

You could have smattered it across your exceptionally well known website
and it would be a matter of public record that could never be erased (like Archive.org).

instead, only those of us that recorded it can prove any assertions.

Are you trying to avoid government censorship from the FDA
(A very laudible effort I and others would support completely)
by gaining a large group of initial clients/purchasers/validators ?



Don't get me wrong, I am sold on the product,
but this delivery of information and It's exposure
was handled as hush-hush and that seems odd.

And I forgot to say "Thank you" first
before bringing up concerns on the matter...

[WeThePeople]

Separate thing,
wile I was talking to support
about the *5/*6 issue posted
I asked about /joins/parts.

These are events that can be silenced,
it is something I hope you employ in the future.

I plugged in an old-fashioned pair of plastic speakers
to avoid have my surround sound speakers torture me.

No one want to hear Micro$haft sound blibs, seriously...

[WeThePeople]

Thank you for being as frank as I would like to have been,
but I wanted to give benifit of the doubt on the topic.

If others are reading this and don't understand,
a realistic post has been deleted inapproapriately !

I saved it, just ask...

I knew of the forum indicated,
but that thread does indicate intention.

All crap aside,
if it works,
Purchase/use,
but shame them...

[brent]

They got me once but not again.

[WeThePeople]

On a positive note, I can say with clarity (Battery secret),
that I have never heard of using a substance as a surfactant.

It makes some sense.

After all, we are dealing with a liquid-to-matter interface.

Batteries suck price-wise initially,
but are still the most economical
see an odd thing here ?

The shamless links to a product
lessoned my respect to the presentation...

[Mario]

Hi all,

I subscribed but couldn't attend and was sent a link to get the recording, well the link doesn't work, just gets you to the EF. Anyone got a working link?

Mario

[zegalote]

I felt aslpeep while waiting for my local 3am
Let's try to download the recording

Best regards

[WeThePeople]

Hmm, I've got a crappy recording,
I'll watch this for you and respond.

[WeThePeople]

Is Aaron dumb enough to think we wouldn't figure this out ?

This so sucks and is provable

[Mario]

Can anyone PM me the correct link for the recording please? The one I got doesn't get me to a recording.

thanks,
Mario

[Aaron]

the call

WeThePeople,

Actually, scheduling conference calls are a very standard way to
presenting things to people that are very new, etc... I've been part
of them for almost 15 years. Before there is a recording, we actually
need to do a live call. A sterile narration where there are no people
calling in simply doesn't do it justice. The energy is completely different.

The internet is AMAZING - however, it is used in too many wrong ways.
There is nothing like calling up and hearing from someone that is actually
on the other side of the phone. People can focus better on a conference
call than they can on a powerpoint presentation, etc... because of the
simple fact that there isn't a lot of graphical interference, etc... that is IF
someone actually uses a phone. Calling from a computer is ok, but this is
hard to get away from these days.

If you close your eyes and listen to something, you are more focused than
if your eyes are open listening to something so conference calls are perfect
for this. There are many reasons they are used.

Everyone that thought it was an energy technology speculated that on
their own. It is absolutely true that free energy researchers have been
dancing on the edges of this - anyone can find the patents or applications
and see this to be true - and will see why when I saw the application that
I decided I had a new full time mission. Look at how it is made and what is
in it!

I can't spell it out for obvious reasons but nobody is being stopped
from doing that due diligence It has made so many worthless products
on the market obsolete more than they already were. Anyone that reads
my book will see why.

Anyway, perhaps I could do a conference call on marketing to explain
WHY I did things in the order that I did them in. It will make perfect sense
and you will get a perspective in psychology that nobody is going to ever
learn in school. It will be a very valuable lesson and I'll do it for free.

ANY TAKERS? I'm serious - want to hear some marketing psychology
you probably have never heard before?

Your comments on a pyramid I disagree with. Why? Because it is
understood by very few people. I'm willing to guess that from your
comments, which I don't blame you for, that you have never had success
in anything like that. Why? Because you have never actually been taught
the right way to work that kind of business. Do you know that the
only thing successfully duplicated in marketing history is failure? 97%
of entrepreneurs fail miserably in these businesses. That is because they
are doing what the companies teach instead of learning from people that
actually know what they're doing.

Companies are put together by CORPORATE people, they know NOTHING
about building networks. Period. There was only 1 company in the industry
that was founded by a person that actually came from the field - I learned
personally from him. He build a business from $0 to $500 MILLION in
about 5-6 years flat in record time beating every INC 500 #1 company
in history with a growth rate of over 45,000% growth!

If you want to learn how to play basketball, you learn from Michael Jordan.

If you want to learn marketing, you don't learn from someone that has
failed in the last 10 companies they joined. There are many secrets in the
industry and I have a few insights into what they are - simply because I
have payed attention to the right mentors in my life in various areas.
Everyone needs a coach in these areas but very people have them.

The govt is a pyramid. Every corporation is a pyramid. This isn't my verbal
spin on this. It is an indisputable fact.

You have few people at the top and a lot at the bottom. All the people
at the top make all the money, people at the bottom make the least.
People graduate from HS or college believing they have to start at the
bottom and "work their way up" the corporate ladder - where there is a
ton of competition and only a few make it - those who do are the
exceptions, NOT the rule. It is a rigged game and is the biggest pyramid
scam in history.

Well, the federal reserve is the biggest scam in history but you get the
point.

The real way to get ahead is to start at the top of your own and build
down! It is the only way. AND, in a pyramid scheme, you are locked
into your place, you cannot get ahead of those above you. Just so you
know, I have blown past just about everyone that I personally know that
were involved before I was! That topples the argument that the people
at the top make all the money - because that is a myth, plain and simple.

People who produce get rewarded - it has NOTHING to do with who came
in first and other myths like that.

Anyway, I have comfort in knowing that I'm helping MANY people in ways
that have never been thought possible before plus earning an honest
living.

Something can be sitting on a shelf in WalMart - but nobody is going to
get around the fact that they are going to make a profit on it but they
are going to do absolutely nothing to give back to you or help you in
any other way. Bottom line is that products and services are going to
be obtained by someone and paid to someone - I'd rather give my money
to people that I like and trust or believe in their cause.

Right here in Spokane, I voluntarily pay more money to the small mom
and pop shop for the same thing that I could get elsewhere. I got a
back flow prevent for my sprinkler system today - cost me about $98 +
tax. If I went to Lowes, I could have gotten it for about 20% less but I
didn't. I like the neighborhood stores and want them to stay in business.
I used to own one - a health food store. I had enough volume that I
could compete with price but thankfully, I did have a loyal clientele because
I went the extra mile with every single person that walked through the
door no matter how much the spent. They never got that at some
big named stores.

Despite "McGruber's" ignorance of what a "pyramid plan is" I just laid it
out. McGruber, nor anyone else that has ever worked for a corporation
or any company with more than a few people have never been free of a
"pyramid plan".

Pointing out the various ways to get paid is not only irrelevant, it shows
not what he knows but what he doesn't know. Wal Mart's execs get paid
in multiple bonuses based on production, etc... people happily go to those
stores and help those people get paid in multiple ways, but that company
is a true pyramid plan, and people have no problem doing that. But when
average people have the same opportunity to help others get ahead
it is suddenly some bad shady deal.

Sorry, but only people who have failed because they don't know what
they're doing have a problem with that and listening to people like this
when it comes to business advice is like taking marriage advice from
someone that has been divorced 5 times - it isn't the smartest thing to do.

[Aaron]

@Mario

Can anyone PM me the correct link for the recording please? The one I got doesn't get me to a recording.

thanks,
Mario

I'm pm'ing you

[WeThePeople]

Um, thank you for your response,
my loving wife must sleep.

I'll respond tomorrow.

But thank you for a frank point of view.

Thats healthy.