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  • price is not an issue

    Originally posted by toranarod View Post
    All I am trying to say is every business needs competition to Keep them honest.
    what will happen when demand exceeds supply? the price never comes down.
    it can only go up.
    I believe that is a myth.

    Competition is good to simply stimulate creativity and to motivate people.

    PATHS has ZERO competition. It used to be $1250 to get a platinum package and was $500 per month. Now it is a small fraction of that. The regular packages used to be $129/month for ONE single module, it is now $34.95 for a package of up to 4 modules after the startup fee. The prices were not lowered just to get more people to sign up, the prices were lowered because of ECONOMY OF SCALE. It was said from the beginning that when there is enough people using PATHS that the price will come down, no competition and the company kept their word.

    Competition COULD become a factor in a company being forced to bring their prices down but that has no bearing on making a company "honest". If a company is dishonest, nothing will change that and it will self destruct in the end. If a company is honest, it is honest regardless of competition or pricing.

    This health product is priced to be competitive to other products in the network marketing industry so the prima facie evidence is that price is not even an issue because these other companies have moved towards $1 billon. The difference between this company and those companies is that this company is growing while the others are shrinking - as a fact - many distributors are leaving many of the other companies. And I believe many distributors in the antioxidant product companies are going to be embarrassed to even sell the antioxidant juices once the facts about them become common knowledge. They're going to want to come work with this company. Other companies have different products but the facts are that the monthly cost is what people are willing to pay while keeping the company sustainable while paying out more to people that share the message than they keep for themselves is working, and working quite well.

    When demand exceeds supply? That isn't going to increase the cost of a product like this in a network marketing company. This company's technology is modular and can be setup in 3 months flat as demand justifies it. It isn't a commodity or something subject to speculation like wheat or oil. The compensation plan and the cost are intimately connected together and is very stable. Look at the products in all network marketing companies (health products) - they are extremely stable. And a further advantage is that other companies packaging "magical" berries, etc... are at the mercy of weather, etc... and there are things that could potentially upset the supply - but this is medical grade sodium chloride that is masterfully rearranged and stabilized and bottled. If anything, this company's product is probably more stable (pun intended) than every other consumable health product in the world.

    The product is fairly priced in my opinion. I personally know people that also think it is too expensive, while they have a cable television bill of about the same price because ESPN or HBO + their netflix subscription takes more of a priority than their health. I don't believe in convincing people. Give the options and people will take advantage of it or not.

    Again, there are PLENTY of things people can do to better their health regardless of income. Qigong, red light therapy (cost is no longer a real excuse these days - look at the cost of red and infrared led's), changing up their diet, etc... so, there are no valid reason to blame this product. Anyone with an issue with price could easily take the other recommendations of things to do because they will still be greatly benefiting their health.

    Instead of blaming the price of this product, why not spend the same time utilizing other things that are recommended where price is obviously not an issue. If you are so concerned about helping people in a less expensive or free way, why not organize Qigong classes in your area promoting a local teacher? Or go into business selling red light panels on ebay or whatever? What about organizing a class teaching people about dietary changes that would benefit them without changing their monthly expenses?

    Are you personally willing to do any of these things? You would be doing what you appear to want to do and that is help people with health issues in a way that cost isn't an issue. Here are some ways, maybe you can come up with others, but again, are you actually willing to do something like this? If not, how are your concerns even justified?
    Sincerely,
    Aaron Murakami

    Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
    Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
    RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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    • Originally posted by Aaron View Post
      I believe that is a myth.

      Competition is good to simply stimulate creativity and to motivate people.

      PATHS has ZERO competition. It used to be $1250 to get a platinum package and was $500 per month. Now it is a small fraction of that. The regular packages used to be $129/month for ONE single module, it is now $34.95 for a package of up to 4 modules after the startup fee. The prices were not lowered just to get more people to sign up, the prices were lowered because of ECONOMY OF SCALE. It was said from the beginning that when there is enough people using PATHS that the price will come down, no competition and the company kept their word.

      Competition COULD become a factor in a company being forced to bring their prices down but that has no bearing on making a company "honest". If a company is dishonest, nothing will change that and it will self destruct in the end. If a company is honest, it is honest regardless of competition or pricing.

      This health product is priced to be competitive to other products in the network marketing industry so the prima facie evidence is that price is not even an issue because these other companies have moved towards $1 billon. The difference between this company and those companies is that this company is growing while the others are shrinking - as a fact - many distributors are leaving many of the other companies. And I believe many distributors in the antioxidant product companies are going to be embarrassed to even sell the antioxidant juices once the facts about them become common knowledge. They're going to want to come work with this company. Other companies have different products but the facts are that the monthly cost is what people are willing to pay while keeping the company sustainable while paying out more to people that share the message than they keep for themselves is working, and working quite well.

      When demand exceeds supply? That isn't going to increase the cost of a product like this in a network marketing company. This company's technology is modular and can be setup in 3 months flat as demand justifies it. It isn't a commodity or something subject to speculation like wheat or oil. The compensation plan and the cost are intimately connected together and is very stable. Look at the products in all network marketing companies (health products) - they are extremely stable. And a further advantage is that other companies packaging "magical" berries, etc... are at the mercy of weather, etc... and there are things that could potentially upset the supply - but this is medical grade sodium chloride that is masterfully rearranged and stabilized and bottled. If anything, this company's product is probably more stable (pun intended) than every other consumable health product in the world.

      The product is fairly priced in my opinion. I personally know people that also think it is too expensive, while they have a cable television bill of about the same price because ESPN or HBO + their netflix subscription takes more of a priority than their health. I don't believe in convincing people. Give the options and people will take advantage of it or not.

      Again, there are PLENTY of things people can do to better their health regardless of income. Qigong, red light therapy (cost is no longer a real excuse these days - look at the cost of red and infrared led's), changing up their diet, etc... so, there are no valid reason to blame this product. Anyone with an issue with price could easily take the other recommendations of things to do because they will still be greatly benefiting their health.

      Instead of blaming the price of this product, why not spend the same time utilizing other things that are recommended where price is obviously not an issue. If you are so concerned about helping people in a less expensive or free way, why not organize Qigong classes in your area promoting a local teacher? Or go into business selling red light panels on ebay or whatever? What about organizing a class teaching people about dietary changes that would benefit them without changing their monthly expenses?

      Are you personally willing to do any of these things? You would be doing what you appear to want to do and that is help people with health issues in a way that cost isn't an issue. Here are some ways, maybe you can come up with others, but again, are you actually willing to do something like this? If not, how are your concerns even justified?
      I already make every health decision possible exercise every day eat only the correct foods take no drugs of any kind.


      Ok you have convinced me thank you for Helpimg me with it.
      Last edited by toranarod; 08-11-2011, 12:15 PM.

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      • Torana,

        Did you say you bought some? From memory you're in Aus? If so, how did you go about doing that? Guys, I need some help. I want to try this product - will someone help me get some?

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        • Originally posted by krzysiek View Post
          Torana,

          Did you say you bought some? From memory you're in Aus? If so, how did you go about doing that? Guys, I need some help. I want to try this product - will someone help me get some?
          Yes I am an Aussie The Torana is a dead give away. Many other would not know what a Torana is.

          I no I have been in a moral debate with Aaron. But He is the Man and good friend.
          talk to him directly. I think he has a contact.

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          • international

            For international - I can help with that in limited amounts for personal use that is not intended for resale nor can it be used to start building a business outside of the US or Canada until the company officially launches there.

            I have an international notification list here: International Redox Signaling Molecules

            After joining and confirming the confirmation list, just reply to that first email that comes and we can take it from there. Please keep in mind the company cannot ship direct. I have to pay tax and shipping to my location then have to pay intl shipping + 4% paypal fee to receive the money but I am passing on savings from when I do bulk orders to help cancel out some of the intl shipping fees.
            Sincerely,
            Aaron Murakami

            Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
            Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
            RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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            • I'd like to try some of this product but there is no way I can buy it on a credit card nor will I buy it on any auto-ship program. I'd like to give a a fair chance for a month or two but I know from long experience in trying all sorts of health products that some work for me and some do not. I simply refuse to get drawn into spending a lot of money that I do not have on something I cannot try. Are there any alternatives to get some of this other than the auto-ship program and being a member? I have not read this whole thread so I'm sorry if this has been answered before.
              There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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              • Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                <snip <
                You want to boost your body's efficiency? Go bathe your body in red light and pulsed at 292Hz preferably. But that is probably too simple in concept for most people to believe but they can't say I never gave them anything. That is a PRICELESS piece of info that I have personally benefited from for the last 11 years or so.

                RED LED panels are cheap from ebay. Go buy one and pulse it with a frequency generator. Still limited to the redox signaling molecules your mitochondria can make on its own but nevertheless, an increase. Again, plenty of things people COULD do if they actually want to apply what they learn.
                Can you recommend a particular red LED panel or brand? I found some that looked reasonable and claimed to be highest quality but found negative feedback saying they were cheap junk.
                There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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                • Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                  Rich Roll, elite ultra-endurance athlete and one of Men’s Health Magazine’s “25 Fittest Guys." Rich will be appearing on major broadcast network television morning news programs across the county, talking about the amazing health benefits of Redox Signaling Molecules.

                  Rich accomplished the staggering feat of endurance called the EPIC5 Challenge, completing 5 ironman-distance triathlons on 5 islands of Hawaii in under a week. He has also been a top finisher at the Ultraman World Championships, a 3-day, 320 mile double-ironman distance triathlon.
                  Rich has been a passionate advocate of Redox Signaling Molecules and has made it an integral part of his lifestyle, saying, “I am a big fan of the product, and feel it has significantly contributed to the advancement of not only my training and athletic performance, but also my overall wellness.”

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                  • ordering

                    Originally posted by ewizard View Post
                    I'd like to try some of this product but there is no way I can buy it on a credit card nor will I buy it on any auto-ship program. I'd like to give a a fair chance for a month or two but I know from long experience in trying all sorts of health products that some work for me and some do not. I simply refuse to get drawn into spending a lot of money that I do not have on something I cannot try. Are there any alternatives to get some of this other than the auto-ship program and being a member? I have not read this whole thread so I'm sorry if this has been answered before.
                    If you're in the US or Canada - you can order 1 case and get on autoship, which you can cancel before the autoship date if you're unhappy for any reason. Call customer service and you get your money refunded minus shipping cost. That is a solid guarantee.

                    Where are you located? I have some inventory being shipped to me in a few days and can send direct. PM me for payment options. I can take western union, money order or cashier's check. Paypal is the easiest but if you don't have a credit card, the above options should work.
                    Sincerely,
                    Aaron Murakami

                    Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                    Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                    RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                    • Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                      If you're in the US or Canada - you can order 1 case and get on autoship, which you can cancel before the autoship date if you're unhappy for any reason. Call customer service and you get your money refunded minus shipping cost. That is a solid guarantee.

                      Where are you located? I have some inventory being shipped to me in a few days and can send direct. PM me for payment options. I can take western union, money order or cashier's check. Paypal is the easiest but if you don't have a credit card, the above options should work.
                      In the CONUS. I tried to PM you but your box is full. I'll try again later. Thanks Aaron.
                      There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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                      • send pm

                        Originally posted by ewizard View Post
                        In the CONUS. I tried to PM you but your box is full. I'll try again later. Thanks Aaron.
                        Ok, my box is cleared out.
                        Sincerely,
                        Aaron Murakami

                        Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                        Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                        RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                        • shipping time

                          To everyone that PM'd me, I will have product by Thursday or Friday at the latest. I ship after paypal payment transfers to my business account. That means I can ship probably Mon or Tuesday. Everything goes by USPS Priority.
                          Sincerely,
                          Aaron Murakami

                          Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                          Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                          RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                          • Hi Aaron,

                            Are you selling the Asea water cheaper than in the link?

                            thx

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                            • @Uusedman

                              Hi Uusedman,

                              Please send a PM with your shipping address, I'll give you a quote.

                              I have passed on big savings mostly to some friends overseas to offset shipping costs.
                              Sincerely,
                              Aaron Murakami

                              Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                              Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                              RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                              • Stan Meyer configuration

                                Still, for anyone that hasn't read the patents and apps, it is made with
                                a Stan Meyer configuration but with mesh tubes of platinum coated
                                electrodes.

                                Low voltage ranges and temps.

                                Anyone interested in on demand fuel production should study them
                                for reasons that are obvious to those that are skilled in the art - just to
                                throw in some patent jargon.
                                Sincerely,
                                Aaron Murakami

                                Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                                Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
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