* SPECIAL EVENT * August 4, 2011, 7pm Pacific Time Zone

[Aaron]

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You guys actually got more than you think you got.

And what is so profound about this health product is that both the positive and negative species are in one solution without neutralizing themselves. The atomic physicist that figured out how to stabilize that did something HUGE. Still blows my mind every time I think about it.

[krzysiek]

And what is so profound about this health product is that both the positive and negative species are in one solution without neutralizing themselves. The atomic physicist that figured out how to stabilize that did something HUGE. Still blows my mind every time I think about it.

Aaron, hope you didn't forget about my PM with all of this going on!! Waiting to hear back!

[Aaron]

marketing

The following isn't meant to discredit your achievements - it's just to point out a basic fact of this type of business opportunity. As a very small percentage of people actually do anything and make money from business opportunities. 28,000 sounds like a lot but your only competing with about 1 to 2% - to break or set any records.

Well I have a problem with network marketing. Your castrated in what you can and can't do, especially when it comes to health related products. It's not a business - its a job. But the biggest problem of all is that you don't own the product, your a sales man/woman at the mercy of the network marketing company.

I'm waiting for them as well - if I had perfect presentations, I wouldn't have any failures, nor would I share them with anyone. So the next best thing is to get yourself on a Dan Kennedy, Jay Abraham or an Agora list and you'll get everything you'll need to model (with out having to spend a penny). Who better to learn from than the horses mouth.

28,000 is relatively small - new company with a product that has existed for a while.

3% is more of the actual number of people that are successful in these businesses.

It isn't a "job" to me. There are ways to do these businesses in a way that the companies do NOT teach. They are corporate people that put the companies together - not people from the field - they run the business - they can't teach networking, simple as that. The top producers in all companies DO THEIR OWN THING. They don't send people to company trainings.

I'm not at the mercy of anything. I see what I can do and what I can't and then I simple craft the optimum method to work within those parameters.

I can teach people in 4 areas of marketing. Three of them, no company in the industry teaches. One of them is poorly taught. All 4, nobody is going to learn them in school, that is for sure.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi Aaron, just for my curiosity sake, could you explain further what this means.

we'd become part of the problem instead of the solution.

I know we all have to eat, though all I wish to point out is, at what cost.
Do we become police, soldiers, bailiffs, prison guards, prison camp guards, lawyers, judges, irs agents, etc., etc., etc., to be able to eat, no matter how much disharmony and oppression are involved in those jobs and not to mention that these enslavement systems have created the illusion that we even need those jobs.
Granted I'm not equating what you are doing to that, I'm just saying, when will we as a human species say to hell with this enslavement garbage and start doing things because It's for the highest good of one and all and forget about making funny money to pay the banksters off, etc., etc., etc.
Also, I have no chip, rock or any other emotional disposition other than trying to offer some wisdom to anyone that has the eyes to see and ears to hear.

Heck, I don't know anymore, I think I must be from another planet, because a lot of what i see just makes no sense at all.
This is not really directed towards you Aaron or anyone or your choices, just trying to see if anyone else sees the futility in all this drudgery everyone is putting up with.

And please, could I possibly have something other than the usual, 'your living in an impractical dream world'.
You know what, The way we humans are living is the dream world, no in fact, it's more along the lines of a brief nightmare in the his-story of humanity.
I wish we could all share freely and give our time and energy freely and thus share true love with one another, that of unconditional love, instead of this competitive, rat race, cheesy survival show gone haywire.
peace love light
tyson

[DavidE]

Aaron,

Please don't take anything I say here personally because it is not meant in that way. This is a conversational forum, and I am here to learn from all of the exchanges.

Believe it or not, I willingly bought your free offer twice and heard the same pitch about the same product. There may be really something to this product, but this product is not why I come here to this forum and I believe that is true for many.

The one thing you can know about the future, is if you don't do anything... no one will ever criticize you. So I applaud your purity of intent, even though I think the execution blurred what might have been possible with simpler more straight forward methods.

I have seen this kind of pitch hundreds of times in various fields. All it ever does is diminish the potential value impact from what could have been an honest exchange. If you trust the value of a component of meaning, trust that your audience will likely resonate with the same values.

Personally I am tired of bait words like "Secrets." As you state in one of your last posts... "I'm not giving out any more secrets." Countless before you have had the same attitude and their secrets died with them. If you really think this through, I believe you will agree that it is emotion talking, not good sense.

If you want to win the hearts and minds of others, describe the "why values" of something, and trust that nature will undoubtedly take care of the rest.

Here is a TED TALK about conveying meaning to others... I thought it appropriate in this thread.

Simon Sinek: How great leaders inspire action | Video on TED.com

[Aaron]

jobs

Hi folks, Hi Aaron, just for my curiosity sake, could you explain further what this means.


I know we all have to eat, though all I wish to point out is, at what cost.
Do we become police, soldiers, bailiffs, prison guards, prison camp guards, lawyers, judges, irs agents, etc., etc., etc., to be able to eat, no matter how much disharmony and oppression are involved in those jobs and not to mention that these enslavement systems have created the illusion that we even need those jobs.

What becoming part of the problem means is that if THIS is our full time
work and we don't earn an income we'll wind up on welfare milking your tax dollars. That is just the practical reality of it.

We've put plenty of information into the public domain for everyone and never asked for anything in return for it. If I want to charge money for anything I want to offer, I can do it without explanation or apology to anyone - even if I never put anything into the public domain.

But you bring up the point yourself - we are NOT choosing to be police, jailers, etc... and whatever else you list. All those jobs are necessary to a point - and I could earn money in just about any field I want but I choose to only earn my money in fields of interest to me that have some benefit to advancing our way of life - energy, agriculture, health, and consciousness. I do have a choice and this is what I choose.

Yes, those jobs are necessary for the world we live in - when the world changes - we won't need them anymore but from what I can see with my own eyes is that we aren't there yet. I know what I'm doing to move away from that and I'm perfectly happy with my progress.

[toranarod]

Hi folks, Hi Aaron, just for my curiosity sake, could you explain further what this means.


I know we all have to eat, though all I wish to point out is, at what cost.
Do we become police, soldiers, bailiffs, prison guards, prison camp guards, lawyers, judges, irs agents, etc., etc., etc., to be able to eat, no matter how much disharmony and oppression are involved in those jobs and not to mention that these enslavement systems have created the illusion that we even need those jobs.
Granted I'm not equating what you are doing to that, I'm just saying, when will we as a human species say to hell with this enslavement garbage and start doing things because It's for the highest good of one and all and forget about making funny money to pay the banksters off, etc., etc., etc.
Also, I have no chip, rock or any other emotional disposition other than trying to offer some wisdom to anyone that has the eyes to see and ears to hear.

Heck, I don't know anymore, I think I must be from another planet, because a lot of what i see just makes no sense at all.
This is not really directed towards you Aaron or anyone or your choices, just trying to see if anyone else sees the futility in all this drudgery everyone is putting up with.

And please, could I possibly have something other than the usual, 'your living in an impractical dream world'.
You know what, The way we humans are living is the dream world, no in fact, it's more along the lines of a brief nightmare in the his-story of humanity.
I wish we could all share freely and give our time and energy freely and thus share true love with one another, that of unconditional love, instead of this competitive, rat race, cheesy survival show gone haywire.
peace love light
tyson

[Aaron]

@David

this product is not why I come here to this forum and I believe that is true for many.

I have seen this kind of pitch hundreds of times in various fields. All it ever does is diminish the potential value impact from what could have been an honest exchange. If you trust the value of a component of meaning, trust that your audience will likely resonate with the same values.

Personally I am tired of bait words like "Secrets." As you state in one of your last posts... "I'm not giving out any more secrets." Countless before you have had the same attitude and their secrets died with them. If you really think this through, I believe you will agree that it is emotion talking, not good sense.

This forum focuses on mind expansion, energy, health and agriculture. Energy was not even what this forum started form - it was just something I wanted to include at a later time.

You're speculating why I didn't post that it was a health product - there have been a handful of people that were actively working to sabotage the call even happening.

When I say secret (battery secret) - it IS in fact a secret kept by the industry and kept from you and everyone else. They don't want consumers to know about it for obvious reasons. Whether you or anyone else is "baited" by it or not is not on me. For the first time, that secret IS being put out openly into the public domain's hands - I will start a thread on it soon and everyone can have at it.

Pharma didn't want the public to know or use the health product but their offer was declined and it was put into the public's hands instead of it being locked away in mindless FDA dog and pony shows at the cost of HUNDREDS of millions of dollars to get it approved as a drug for one single application. That product and its existence was a huge secret in and of itself behind the scenes.

As far as giving away more secrets, and they are literally secrets regardless of how anyone wants to view them - something told me to not include the time machine switch - it obviously would not have added to anything. So, I'll leave them out in the future.

[abdlquadri]

match made in heaven

This is to help some people go over their anger.

The conference gave two things (minus the bonus):

1. 21st century business (read Robert Kiyosaki's book with the same title)
2. 21st century health product (read Aaron Murakami's free book.)

This is a match made in heaven. Best business with a good product to help people.

Also note that a lot of us have been very active in this forum due to finance. This might change that.

I will definitely be the first affiliate in my country.

Thanks Aaron and all

[abdlquadri]

process may help free energy

If you research how they made the product. It might assist with on demand fuel as pointed out in Aarons book.

[elias]

Hi folks, Hi Aaron, just for my curiosity sake, could you explain further what this means.


I know we all have to eat, though all I wish to point out is, at what cost.
Do we become police, soldiers, bailiffs, prison guards, prison camp guards, lawyers, judges, irs agents, etc., etc., etc., to be able to eat, no matter how much disharmony and oppression are involved in those jobs and not to mention that these enslavement systems have created the illusion that we even need those jobs.
Granted I'm not equating what you are doing to that, I'm just saying, when will we as a human species say to hell with this enslavement garbage and start doing things because It's for the highest good of one and all and forget about making funny money to pay the banksters off, etc., etc., etc.
Also, I have no chip, rock or any other emotional disposition other than trying to offer some wisdom to anyone that has the eyes to see and ears to hear.

Heck, I don't know anymore, I think I must be from another planet, because a lot of what i see just makes no sense at all.
This is not really directed towards you Aaron or anyone or your choices, just trying to see if anyone else sees the futility in all this drudgery everyone is putting up with.

And please, could I possibly have something other than the usual, 'your living in an impractical dream world'.
You know what, The way we humans are living is the dream world, no in fact, it's more along the lines of a brief nightmare in the his-story of humanity.
I wish we could all share freely and give our time and energy freely and thus share true love with one another, that of unconditional love, instead of this competitive, rat race, cheesy survival show gone haywire.
peace love light
tyson

Well said, well said, you told exactly what my personal problem with the world is. Sometimes I feel so alien in this world. Abundance is everyone's right, I have no problem with that, but because the way money is made to operate, when you earn money more than you need, you are actually enslaving some people. Are you careful to give away the extra money you do not need, or does it make you thirsty for more money? If one wants to make money there are so many bugs in this economic system that enables some people earn money more than the amount of real service they make to humanity. People need love and compassion not a product that they have to pay for, that is not going to save the world. That is why I have dedicated the last 4 years of my life searching for free energy. Free energy will eventually eliminate money as we know it.

Everybody tells me wake up that's only a dream you are living in. In the real world it doesn't work that way. In the real world the one who enslaves others more, is the most successful and deserves more. What a shame! What a SHAME! Sometimes I feel exhausted and feel like escaping planet Earth and all this non-sense. It becomes unbearable to live with such ignorance flying around.

[Peculian]

pm me for the link

Thanks Aaron.
Have keen on this, as I have collected lots of "rejected"
batteries and yet having not fully understood the Bedini way.
But I guess I will keep trying no matter how it goes.
:respect:

[Peculian]

@ all

Guys/Gals, we have to keep in mind that money is a mind corrupting tool,
unfortunately. So ,everyone who shares the same pain with poor or/and unable people deserve a good word,but only if he/she is helping out in a practical way
Hope everyone finds the necessary help needed so badly.
And yet we too,can help others.Keep trying folks.
Do exactly what Tesla himself was trying to do

[Peter Lindemann]

Abundance is Everybody's Right....

Well said, well said, you told exactly what my personal problem with the world is. Sometimes I feel so alien in this world. Abundance is everyone's right, I have no problem with that, but because the way money is made to operate, when you earn money more than you need, you are actually enslaving some people. Are you careful to give away the extra money you do not need, or does it make you thirsty for more money? If one wants to make money there are so many bugs in this economic system that enables some people earn money more than the amount of real service they make to humanity. People need love and compassion not a product that they have to pay for, that is not going to save the world. That is why I have dedicated the last 4 years of my life searching for free energy. Free energy will eventually eliminate money as we know it.

Everybody tells me wake up that's only a dream you are living in. In the real world it doesn't work that way. In the real world the one who enslaves others more, is the most successful and deserves more. What a shame! What a SHAME! Sometimes I feel exhausted and feel like escaping planet Earth and all this non-sense. It becomes unbearable to live with such ignorance flying around.

Hi Elias,

I feel your pain. I really do. I began my quest for Free Energy technology with the same point of view. Over the years, as I continued to see the world's non-conformance with this idea, I started to meditate on it deeply, to try to find out why. Here is what I found, and came to Peace with, within myself.

The IDEA that "abundance is everybody's right" is only a philosophical reality. This IDEA has never actually been the foundation of any social group, governmental constitution, or financial institution. No group of human beings have ever agreed to interact AS A GROUP based on this IDEA. This is a historic fact, right up to this day. My conclusion was, therefore, the IDEA that "abundance is everyone's right" is not true in the physical reality.

That realization did not, however, change my longing for it to be true. That is when I realized that this IDEA was really operating in me as a philosophical IDEAL; as something that I could envision society attaining sometime in the future. That is when I decided to start living my life AS IF it was true, even though the rest of the world did not.

On my FE website, I have posted an essay on Social Responsibility that you may find addresses this. It discusses the relationship between the "rights" granted to the individual by society and the individual's "responsibility" to society in return: Free Energy | Social Responsibility

That said, "abundance is everybody's right" is an absolute TRUTH in the Spirit World. In the highest reaches of the mind, it is possible to contact a reality that is the Essence of Existence itself. It is from this place that abundance flows without limit. That means that abundance is supposed to ENTER THE WORLD through us, and this is the exact reason why we cannot find abundance in the world BEFORE we find it in ourselves.

Please do not seek to escape from this world, as it is in dire need of you BECOMING the abundance you so dearly love. And when you do this, your life will be filled with meaning, as you share your abundance with the world.

Namaste,
Peter

[dR-Green]

What becoming part of the problem means is that if THIS is our full time
work and we don't earn an income we'll wind up on welfare milking your tax dollars.

Milking tax dollars is fine by me, if I am "encouraged" into a corner by a closed minded society who are more than happy to blindly pay tax and are only interested in attacking you if you bring the subject to their attention. In other words, I'll take what's offered with the intention of turning it around if that's the game they want to play. Free tax dollars, thank you very much. I'll use it to work on not needing tax dollars in the future.