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  • #16
    Hi.

    I would like to try this method, but i have three questions:

    - With those roads you used, how much water you used in electrolysis?
    - What quantities of the carbon solution you need to put in each battery?
    - About the charging, will i achieve some significant results with a conventional charger, or will i really need a radiant charger to have some effect?

    Thanks for sharing all this great info!!
    Regards

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    • #17
      Other thing, would a Graphite drawing pencil core work to do this?

      thanks

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      • #18
        battery secret

        Please read the Japanese patent I referenced. That is what I used as my foundational understanding to do my own experiments.

        Pencil cores would be so small you would grow to old age before having enough to do anything practical with. I used graphite welding rods.

        Much easier to buy it ready made specific for this purpose - I give the reference.

        Anyone can download my book here to read the battery secret chapter:
        Battery Secret
        Sincerely,
        Aaron Murakami

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        • #19
          Cabot

          Has anyone contacted Cabot?
          Sincerely,
          Aaron Murakami

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          • #20
            I filled out a sample requested for VULCAN XC72R, we will see what happens.

            I also requested pricing on A-Pholon from somewhere (India?) but have not heard back yet.

            Mike Klimesh

            Originally posted by Aaron View Post
            Has anyone contacted Cabot?
            Live to experiment, Experiment to live (+_+)

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            • #21
              battery secret

              Mike,

              Would love to hear how it goes.

              -----------------

              @all, it is nano-colloidal hydrophilic carbon. That is the battery secret.
              Why? Go get my book with the Battery Secret chapter.

              You add it to a lead acid battery and charge it and it plates to the negative
              plates in the battery.

              Lead is porous like a sponge.

              Sulfuric acid and water has too high of a surface tension to penetrate
              those pores.

              The carbon goes in the pores.

              The carbon pulls the water in with it giving a LOT more surface area that
              the electrolyte is in contact with - thereby instantly increasing the
              capacity of the battery above the manufacturers rating.

              Stronger and longer charge and can take a hot current charge at a lower
              temp, etc...

              Many benefits.

              This is NOT a substitute for radiant charging.

              Always use the Bedini charging methods or you're wasting your time.
              Then experiment AFTER a battery is conditioned with the radiant charge
              to see what the carbon does for you.

              You're wasting your time with the carbon if you don't truly rejuvenate
              the batteries with the Bedini technology: Tesla Chargers

              If you don't get through the alternating layers of lead/sulfate, you're
              wasting your time. AFTER that is done, then the battery is ready to
              be experimented with - with the carbon.
              Sincerely,
              Aaron Murakami

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              Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
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              • #22
                Could this carbon be produced in the same way as colloidal silver?

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                • #23
                  battery additive

                  Basically, yes.

                  Use super low voltage and super low current.

                  But everyone does it at their own risk making it themselves if they add it to their batts and it messes them up. Just saying that in case anyone makes the particle size too big.
                  Sincerely,
                  Aaron Murakami

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                  Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
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                  • #24
                    Thankyou, Increasing a batteries capacity has many benefits, ie lower price per Ah, lower weight, less use of materials, lower production cost etc. As a ball park figure, how much increase in capacity would you normally expect?

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                    • #25
                      increase in capacity

                      20%+ increase in battery capacity has been achieved.

                      It it not uncommon for gel cell batt manufacturers to add this during the manufacturing process. Those batteries are 10-15% or more increased capacity for the same size. Many, you can rip open the blocked off ports on top to each cell and see every other plate is black - now you know why.

                      Some car batteries are being made using this process in China - I don't think American battery manufacturers are going to touch this for a while because it is too good and too cheap.
                      Sincerely,
                      Aaron Murakami

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                      Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
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                      • #26
                        Hmm Interesting lots of batteries here, if not all, are from China, they are cheap and perform well. Many brands give the one black and one gray appearance, maybe we already have them here.

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                        • #27
                          battery secret

                          Some of the big industrial batteries like the cell phone tower ones use this in their batts.

                          I have a handful of the gel cells that are "high capacity" ones that have the black plates - all available here in the states.

                          APholon is the first and maybe only pre-made liquid additive intended for the public. Was made in Malaysia for a Japanese company and distributed in Japan. All we have in the states are junk additives compared to this, which is not just an additive, it is a plate treatment.
                          Sincerely,
                          Aaron Murakami

                          Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                          Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                          RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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                          • #28
                            ...

                            i have a doubt, sory if it is a naive one...

                            what you are saying is that after conditioning the lead acid battery with radiant charge, and then applying the carbon...

                            only after that can we user regular charge with high current (fast charge)?

                            because you mentioned •Speed charge a battery at high amps and lower temperature with a regular charger.

                            20% more capacity is very naice, have you experimented applying a fast charge/high current? can you share results?


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                            Originally posted by Aaron View Post
                            Mike,
                            Always use the Bedini charging methods or you're wasting your time.
                            Then experiment AFTER a battery is conditioned with the radiant charge
                            to see what the carbon does for you.

                            You're wasting your time with the carbon if you don't truly rejuvenate
                            the batteries with the Bedini technology: Tesla Chargers
                            Light, I Am!

                            You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                            • #29
                              @tantric

                              tantric,

                              No.

                              If you are only using normal chargers and use this, you can use a normal charger to get faster charging at lower temperature.

                              IF you use radiant charging and have a battery rejuvenated or conditioned from the radiant, you can use this but continue to use radiant charging or normal charging and use radiant for occassional conditioning - but do not think this additive is a replacement for the benefits of radiant charging because it is not.
                              Sincerely,
                              Aaron Murakami

                              Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
                              Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
                              RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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