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**ashtweth** · 07-25-2011, 04:52 AM

politicians lie about the carbon tax
‪Australian PM Gillard confronted over Carbon Tax 'lies' | ABC News‬&rlm; - YouTube

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sorry
open source not Tax has helps farmers
sorry lets push this guys

Ash

**swompwalker** · 07-25-2011, 04:03 PM

Spad

Now that Ash is one lovely clip of �Honest Julia Gillard� A mate of mine once said that in OZ it aint healthy to have a Government in for more than one term - they should be regularly turned out and I recon he aint wrong..
This carbon tax or Green Taxation in general is of course just a new form of taxation which we are led to believe is good for us (like an enema)and we all now just love absolutely anything that�s got green attached to its title. How politically correct is it NOT to love anything green!!. But who is going to pay? The bottom part of society will pay hugely proportionately more - but then as we all know Tax is only really for the little people ( as Leona Helmsley so succinctly put it!) Oz can�t suddenly stop using readily and cheaply available home produced coal. All these silly windmills (again massively subsidised by higher energy prices) just do not and never will provide the power that our modern society needs to function � this of course goes equally for the solar panels too. Last winter I was stood next to a windmill and there was no wind and no movement in the Sails (props) and it was freezing. This Gillard politico personage is just another lying Politian who is playing the OZ population for idiots � complete idiots, which alas all too many are. The Politian�s aint short of a buck - nice inflation proof pensions and if voted out of office wonderful goodbye packages. Everyone should vote on their own payment packages. There would be a lot less strife that way � Don�t you think?
Anyways I suppose that compromise is the ways to go; simply use less. Thing have improved slowly over the years. The car that I am at present using from time to time is a BMW diesel does around 60 miles to the gallon around and about. Now that�s an improvement on my early BMW diesel which only achieved around 40 to the gallon. In a barn covered up I have a grandmothers old 1960�s Mercedes 600 a gas guzzler (only got a few thousand on the clock) does around 15 miles to the gallon with a following wind. Now on that I could whack SPAD et al. No on board computer input - only prob. being that another 5 miles a gallon aint going to excite me and one could get frightened being alone in a car that size!. Within spitting distance of where I now sit are 3 combines parked up costing around half million Euros each. Everything computer operated more particularly the engine management system. Now there is no way that one could but a spad on one of these. There is not only the engine management to consider but also the effect that water (in whatever form) would have on the engine/parts thereof. So that for most of us using modern machinery (economics forces some of us to use such equipment) we are forced to rely on the engine manufacturer to implement fuel reforming changes into their engine management systems. Pressures are needed to be applied. But by whom? Cities such as Sydney demanding better fuel and environmental impact from their buses?
If Sydney had all its diesel buses using fuel reforming imagine how much less pollution there would be? Sydney definitely could use a lot less traffic pollution. But then all of the OZ capitals need less pollution and filthy old London town ---
Anyone with an older piece of farm machinery the SPAD/Hypnow/Ecopra is something that should be seriously considered and there is a lot of older farm machinery about as it tends to last a very long time. If they could come up with a universal software answer (an easy software panacea one might almost say) then considerable headway could be made with their wares.

**ashtweth** · 07-27-2011, 05:58 AM

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