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    Multiple LCR resonance Circuits

    I am starting this thread to focus on the theory and prototyping of the LCR resonance circuits leading to the Steven Mark type device.

    Because of my poor eyesight, I cannot do any prototyping myself. I followed the teaching from the Bible – sow seeds. Some seeds will fall on rock. Some seeds will fall amongst thorns. Some seeds will fall on fertile soil.

    Please do not send me private emails on your confidential findings. Any information passed to me will become public. When I train my students, I warn that their work will be shown on the Internet. They must keep anything that they do not want to share away from me.

    The basic Multiple LCR resonance Circuit similar to Steven Mark’s device is a toroid. The pulsing source can be a signal generator or a Joule Thief Circuit variant. Two or more secondary circuits on the toroid act as the resonance circuits. If tuned properly, we may even take away the pulsing source.

    The first Steven Mark Video was shown in 1997. Many have tried to replicate it. Rumor says that some groups succeeded but did not share their information freely on the Internet. I happen to believe such rumors because my theory says that such a device is theoretically possible. My team has produced a Tong Po Chi Wheel that demonstrated overuity in 2009. My team also produced the many FLEET prototypes. The first overunity FLEET was demonstrated on July 13, 2010 in Hong Kong.

    I do not treat myself as an inventor. I did not invent the tuning fork. I only did the mathematics model on a ball hitting a piston. I can claim with 100% certainty that a moving ball hitting a piston from behind can impart some of its kinetic energy to the piston. That can easily explain sympathetic vibrations. (Two or more identical tuning forks can sound louder and last longer than when a single tuning fork is struck.)

    Mr. Lee Cheung Kin was the first person to realize that the pulse-pushed pendulum could lead-out or bring-in gravitational energy. I did the mathematics and could claim with 100% certainty that for small angles, two parts of horizontally supplied energy can lead-out one part of gravitational energy. I did not invent the pendulum.

    Ms. Forever Yuen did the experiment replacing the pendulum bob with a magnet. She put additional magnets to change the period of oscillation. We could absolutely claim that if gravitational energy can be brought-in by the simple pulse-pushed pendulum, we can bring-in magnetic energy by the magnetic pendulum. We need to pulse at the right time (or at the resonance frequency).

    The question is – can we bring-in the orbiting electron motion energy via some type of pulsing (or LCR resonance)? An orbiting electron is a dipole (tinny magnet). Can we build devices to bring-in such energy? If we can, we do not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy. We can use the pollution-free, abundant and almost inexhaustible energy of the trillions of orbiting electrons. The Steven Mark video in 1997 appeared to be such a device.

    My team managed to get a glimpse of the magic via the use of two oscilloscopes. We managed to tune and get standing output power waves. Observer and others managed to tune and get sine output waves no matter the waveform of the pulsing source. It is clear that we are on the right track.

    Most forum members do not have access to one oscilloscope (two is a dream). Their chance of tuning and capturing resonance is extremely low. Some dismissed the entire concept of resonating systems could bring-in energy. They got some variant of the Joule Thief circuit working and assumed that they had reached the end of the journey. In reality, they were just at the start. They need to tune and observe their Joule Thief circuit variant to achieve the resonance condition. Poynt99 gave up. Prof. Steven Jones continued and got a variant with COP = 8.

    To avoid the situation at overunity.com where the trolls took over the thread, I have put the information at my bench at overunityresearch.com. Please read the information but posting is not allowed there. You are encouraged to post in this thread.

    What is New?

    May God guide us in our efforts to benefit the Entire Human Race! Amen.

  • #2
    Learning ELectronics with Snap-kits

    Learning Electronics with Snap-kits

    I am using the Electronic 101 Snap-kit for the below 10 year olds and the Electronic 303 Snap-kit for the older kids. I asked the 13 year olds and above to do the “PC oscilloscope” experiments.

    It saves me much time and the kids have much fun. The 101 snap-kit costs $40 and the 303 costs $80 at RadioShack. The best results are obtained when the adults get involved – praise the kid and assemble some projects together.

    The quoted age is from 8-108. For the forum members wanting to learn Electronics and build a FLEET prototype later on, I strongly recommend the 303.

    Knowledge is something that you can give away and still retain more.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
      Learning Electronics with Snap-kits

      I am using the Electronic 101 Snap-kit for the below 10 year olds and the Electronic 303 Snap-kit for the older kids. I asked the 13 year olds and above to do the “PC oscilloscope” experiments.

      It saves me much time and the kids have much fun. The 101 snap-kit costs $40 and the 303 costs $80 at RadioShack. The best results are obtained when the adults get involved – praise the kid and assemble some projects together.

      The quoted age is from 8-108. For the forum members wanting to learn Electronics and build a FLEET prototype later on, I strongly recommend the 303.

      Knowledge is something that you can give away and still retain more.
      you know, I had actually considered buying a few of those for myself, as a learning tool, but felt a little silly taking them to the counter, so I passed
      I did pick up a learning lab board, which turned out to be very handy, and I am still working my way through the projects. I am close to starting on the digital part of it
      lots of good learning tools at radio shack, but it's expensive

      very interesting reading, I wish I had taken a class or two, so I knew the basics at least. I still don't really have a handle on what transistors really do, but it all takes time. I know how they are used, but I don't know what they actually DO inside
      thanks for the post
      N8
      The absence of proof is not proof of absence

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      • #4
        Function of a Transistor:

        Please refer to Transistors for more information.

        Transistors amplify current, for example they can be used to amplify the small output current from a logic IC so that it can operate a lamp, relay or other high current device. In many circuits a resistor is used to convert the changing current to a changing voltage, so the transistor is being used to amplify voltage.
        A transistor may be used as a switch (either fully on with maximum current, or fully off with no current) and as an amplifier (always partly on).
        In the case of the Joule Thief or the FLEET prototype circuits, the transistor is used to provide the Pulsing Source of current to the Toroid. The magnetic flux induced by the fluctuating current could provide power to the secondary circuits. Such a set up is different from that of a transformer. In a 1:1 transformer, the output voltage of the secondary will be the same as the primary. In a 1:1 Toroid with a transistor, the Output Secondary Voltage can be many times that of the primary.

        Another interesting observation is that the Output Frequency of FLEET is not simply determined by the transistor. The diameter of the toroid, the type of ferrite material, the number of windings, the LCR values all affect the detected output frequency.

        If the LCR values of the secondary are tuned correctly, large standing waves can be detected. This is usually the resonance condition. Large amount of energy can be brought-in if the device is fluctuating around such a resonance condition. The power associated with a perfect standing wave is zero. But the power associated with a non-perfect standing wave can be very large. This is the theory behind the Steven Mark type TPU device.

        Thus the Joule Thief circuit can act as a pulsing source. Another simpler pulsing source is the signal generator with a diode or LED to turn it into a pulsing DC source.

        Sowing seeds.
        Last edited by ltseung888; 07-25-2011, 12:49 AM.

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        • #5
          Resonating transformer from Observer

          Lead-out/Bring-in Energy - Ringing or Sound resonating transformer

          For resonance using a signal generator, please refer to the above post by Observer.

          I am still trying to figure out why that at resonance, both Input and Output Voltages turned to perfect sine waves?

          Any thoughts or comments?

          Sometimes we rely on observations without knowing why?
          Attached Files

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          • #6
            The ressonating techonlogy is extremely interesting. does it require a power source?

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            • #7
              Understanding energy in a resonating LCR circuit - 1

              Originally posted by toroid View Post
              The ressonating techonlogy is extremely interesting. does it require a power source?
              I shall try to provide a full understanding of the energy picture in the Multiple LCR resonance circuit.

              This is Part 1 – electrical energy can be stored in a pure capacitor.

              A capacitor can be thought of as a device with an insulator sandwiched between two conductors. Charges can be built up on the two conductors. If we place a capacitor in the circuit as shown, the charges can be built up on the capacitor until it is equal and opposite to the battery voltage. When the battery is taken out of the circuit (or the switch is opened), the stored electrical energy (or electric charge) at the capacitor will flow through the resistor or lamp. The lamp set up is best in a demonstration as it will continue to light for a short time after the switch is opened.

              This is NOT a “bring-in energy from the surrounding” device. However, it is one important step in understanding the energy picture in the Multiple LCR resonance phenomena.

              Thus my 30 second continued lighting of a LED in a FLEET was not treated as conclusive evidence of a close-looped system. (It may be a damped or energy-loss resonating system. It did not bring-in enough energy to self-loop.)

              The circuit is simple enough to test and replicate. I believe the 303 Snap-kit can illustrate it in one of its 750 “projects”.

              End of Part 1
              Attached Files

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                Lead-out/Bring-in Energy - Ringing or Sound resonating transformer

                For resonance using a signal generator, please refer to the above post by Observer.

                I am still trying to figure out why that at resonance, both Input and Output Voltages turned to perfect sine waves?

                Any thoughts or comments?

                Sometimes we rely on observations without knowing why?
                Hello,
                It's, because the Magnetic Field sums up.
                Here you can see the Pattern.
                http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post148896
                It allways more or less repeat itself.
                Now compare it with Ferrofluid,
                ‪Ferrofluid‬‏ - YouTube
                In reality it are Spikes, and not round Fields, as they simple suppose at the screwed classical Theories.
                This Spikes interact with eachother and every Spike has a Peak, when you tap it right, like Gears.
                Means the Energy densitiy is at the Point from the Spike higher.
                When you hit the right Frequency with the right Duty Cycle, it creates a standing wave in both Coils where both match into eachother.
                ‪Making standing waves‬‏ - YouTube
                You can figure this Picture from above also as Circle with a lot of Spikes.
                It can repeat itself in a Round.
                Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                  I shall try to provide a full understanding of the energy picture in the Multiple LCR resonance circuit.

                  This is Part 1 – electrical energy can be stored in a pure capacitor.

                  A capacitor can be thought of as a device with an insulator sandwiched between two conductors. Charges can be built up on the two conductors. If we place a capacitor in the circuit as shown, the charges can be built up on the capacitor until it is equal and opposite to the battery voltage. When the battery is taken out of the circuit (or the switch is opened), the stored electrical energy (or electric charge) at the capacitor will flow through the resistor or lamp. The lamp set up is best in a demonstration as it will continue to light for a short time after the switch is opened.

                  This is NOT a “bring-in energy from the surrounding” device. However, it is one important step in understanding the energy picture in the Multiple LCR resonance phenomena.

                  Thus my 30 second continued lighting of a LED in a FLEET was not treated as conclusive evidence of a close-looped system. (It may be a damped or energy-loss resonating system. It did not bring-in enough energy to self-loop.)

                  The circuit is simple enough to test and replicate. I believe the 303 Snap-kit can illustrate it in one of its 750 “projects”.

                  End of Part 1
                  Now put a little twist and use this : ‪v8 ÑуперотÑкок от резинового шарика.avi‬‏ - YouTube

                  Particle accelerator !

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                    I shall try to provide a full understanding of the energy picture in the Multiple LCR resonance circuit.

                    This is Part 1 – electrical energy can be stored in a pure capacitor.

                    A capacitor can be thought of as a device with an insulator sandwiched between two conductors. Charges can be built up on the two conductors. If we place a capacitor in the circuit as shown, the charges can be built up on the capacitor until it is equal and opposite to the battery voltage. When the battery is taken out of the circuit (or the switch is opened), the stored electrical energy (or electric charge) at the capacitor will flow through the resistor or lamp. The lamp set up is best in a demonstration as it will continue to light for a short time after the switch is opened.

                    This is NOT a “bring-in energy from the surrounding” device. However, it is one important step in understanding the energy picture in the Multiple LCR resonance phenomena.

                    Thus my 30 second continued lighting of a LED in a FLEET was not treated as conclusive evidence of a close-looped system. (It may be a damped or energy-loss resonating system. It did not bring-in enough energy to self-loop.)

                    The circuit is simple enough to test and replicate. I believe the 303 Snap-kit can illustrate it in one of its 750 “projects”.

                    End of Part 1

                    This is Part 2 - Inductor as a storage of magnetic energy

                    Inductance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    Inductance is the property of an electrical circuit causing voltage to be generated proportional to the rate of change in current in a circuit. This property also is called self inductance to discriminate it from mutual inductance, describing the voltage induced in one electrical circuit by the rate of change of the electric current in another circuit.
                    The simplest inductor is a coil. When DC current is passed through the coil, the coil will be turned into an electromagnet. The part we are interested is - when the switch is being open or being closed. The rate of current change will determine the opposing emf or voltage induced. This higher voltage may be used to recharge the battery or to light an LED that requires a higher voltage than the battery voltage.

                    The inductor can also be thought of as a storage of the magnetic energy. When the battery is closed, the current through the coil will induce a magnetic field change – storing some energy. When the battery is opened, the “electromagnetic” force will oppose the magnetic field change. An electromagnetic force emf or a back emf is introduced. The voltage from the emf or back emf can be higher than the battery voltage.

                    A toroid is a coil that goes all the way around in a circle. The resulting magnetic field, especially a pulsing electromagnetic field is complex.

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                    • #11
                      Oscillating LCR circuits and resonance

                      This is Part 3 – resonating oscillating LCR circuits

                      ‪LCR Resonance‬‏ - YouTube

                      The above link is from an MIT lecture on resonance LCR set up. The light bulb is much brighter at certain settings.

                      When we put an Inductor, a Capacitor and a Resistor in a circuit, the result will be an oscillating circuit. The simple DC supply from a battery would produce an AC or alternating current (thought of as electrons moving forwards and backwards or oscillating). At resonance the light bulb will be brightest. Usually, this implies more current is passing through the lamp.

                      If the lamp is of constant resistance, the brighter the lamp, the higher is the current. If Ohm’s Law holds, the voltage at that instant will also be higher.

                      Many scientists may apply the Law of Conservation of Energy blindly. They may reason that the higher voltage and current will use up more power. This power must be supplied by the original power source. The drain from the Input Power Supply should be much higher. But is that a correct experimental observation?

                      The discussion will become much more interesting. Are we violating the Law of Conservation of Energy? Or are we getting energy from a source other than the original power supply?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                        This is Part 3 – resonating oscillating LCR circuits

                        ‪LCR Resonance‬‏ - YouTube

                        The above link is from an MIT lecture on resonance LCR set up. The light bulb is much brighter at certain settings.

                        When we put an Inductor, a Capacitor and a Resistor in a circuit, the result will be an oscillating circuit. The simple DC supply from a battery would produce an AC or alternating current (thought of as electrons moving forwards and backwards or oscillating). At resonance the light bulb will be brightest. Usually, this implies more current is passing through the lamp.

                        If the lamp is of constant resistance, the brighter the lamp, the higher is the current. If Ohm’s Law holds, the voltage at that instant will also be higher.

                        Many scientists may apply the Law of Conservation of Energy blindly. They may reason that the higher voltage and current will use up more power. This power must be supplied by the original power source. The drain from the Input Power Supply should be much higher. But is that a correct experimental observation?

                        The discussion will become much more interesting. Are we violating the Law of Conservation of Energy? Or are we getting energy from a source other than the original power supply?
                        Other, like solar panel or peltier. I posted the most important tip in above video. The problem with ALL our current circuits is the power source connection. Eliminate power source, use it like Tom Bearden said.Switching only.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                          This is Part 3 – resonating oscillating LCR circuits

                          ‪LCR Resonance‬‏ - YouTube

                          The above link is from an MIT lecture on resonance LCR set up. The light bulb is much brighter at certain settings.

                          When we put an Inductor, a Capacitor and a Resistor in a circuit, the result will be an oscillating circuit. The simple DC supply from a battery would produce an AC or alternating current (thought of as electrons moving forwards and backwards or oscillating). At resonance the light bulb will be brightest. Usually, this implies more current is passing through the lamp.

                          If the lamp is of constant resistance, the brighter the lamp, the higher is the current. If Ohm’s Law holds, the voltage at that instant will also be higher.

                          Many scientists may apply the Law of Conservation of Energy blindly. They may reason that the higher voltage and current will use up more power. This power must be supplied by the original power source. The drain from the Input Power Supply should be much higher. But is that a correct experimental observation?

                          The discussion will become much more interesting. Are we violating the Law of Conservation of Energy? Or are we getting energy from a source other than the original power supply?
                          This is Part 4 – can changes in using different holes on the breadboard change resonance condition?

                          As stated, a capacitor is effectively an insulator sandwiched between two conductors. The many wires are conductors. The plastics between the holes are insulators. Thus changes in hole positions will affect the capacitance. If capacitance changes, the resonance frequency will also change.

                          It is also clear that the characteristics of the circuit will change when immersed in oil in the calorimeter tests. If this is not taken into account, the Steven Jones calorimeter tests are useless.

                          The Divine Revelations are clear. Man still need to understand them.

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                          • #14
                            It's funny you mention that experiment, another prominent Skunk works engineer talks about it, and did a similar experiment using opposing magnets

                            see video: http://www.energeticforum.com/148789-post127.html

                            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ltseung888 View Post
                              This is Part 3 – resonating oscillating LCR circuits
                              The simple DC supply from a battery would produce an AC or alternating current (thought of as electrons moving forwards and backwards or oscillating). At resonance the light bulb will be brightest.
                              Are you sure about this that constant DC current applied to LCR circuit produces AC current?

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