Multiple LCR resonance Circuits

[frenky]

I did some experiments today...

I wound 20 turns of 0.8mm wire on each side of toroid core.
And also ? turns of 0.4mm wire in the middle.

I measured the L values of the coils 40mH and 45mH.
To each put in series 23uF capacitor.

Calculated resonant frequency was about 5.2kHz.
With pulse circuit (arduino + optocoupler + 2N3055) I pulsed the middle coil with frequency from 4.5kHz to 5.5kHz to find resonant frequency. It was around 4.8kHz.

The pulsing voltage was about 30V and I could get out of side coils only about 1.5V. When pulsling with 20kHz I could get light bulb to barely light up.

Anyway I haven't found nothing really exciting I think I will stick to building motors, cause I like to see things move when finished.

One photo of test setup and the mess on my table:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...4/IMGP2355.JPG

[ltseung888]

I did some experiments today...

I wound 20 turns of 0.8mm wire on each side of toroid core.
And also ? turns of 0.4mm wire in the middle.

I measured the L values of the coils 40mH and 45mH.
To each put in series 23uF capacitor.

Calculated resonant frequency was about 5.2kHz.
With pulse circuit (arduino + optocoupler + 2N3055) I pulsed the middle coil with frequency from 4.5kHz to 5.5kHz to find resonant frequency. It was around 4.8kHz.

The pulsing voltage was about 30V and I could get out of side coils only about 1.5V. When pulsling with 20kHz I could get light bulb to barely light up.

Anyway I haven't found nothing really exciting I think I will stick to building motors, cause I like to see things move when finished.

One photo of test setup and the mess on my table:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...4/IMGP2355.JPG

Dear frenky,

Thanks for your experiment. It pointed out one fact clearly. With resonance type experiments, small changes can make a huge difference. Your result of 30V Input pulsing produced 1.5 V output. With our Joule Thief pulsing, the 1.5 V battery Input can get to over 10 V peak-to-peak easily. The best figure from Dr. Raymond Ting was 450V!

If possible, can you display your Input and Output voltage, current and power waveforms?

In the Input Pulsing, is it DC Pulsing? What is the Duty Cycle?

Thank you for your information.

Lawrence

[ltseung888]

Yes you can do this with LCR circuits.

However you will have more results with a higher Q for your networks, so stay away from lumped element setups.

Instead, wind two air core toroids tuned to the exact same frequency. Excite one of them at its full wave frequency, giving two potential nodes and two potential peaks along its toroidal form.

Separate the second toroid by a distance (you may remain within the near field) and orient it so that the axis is orthogonal to the the first. This attempts to minimize mutual coupling.

Couple the toroids with a quarter wave transmission line.

Take care.

Dear Armagdn03,

Thank you for your suggestions. I hope the many experimenters will benefit. I have friends from Irvine, USA going back to Shenzhen, China in a few weeks. Hopefully, they will be able to get the needed testing equipment from there. The price is less than one-third compared with USA.

With the proper testing equipment and a number of helpers in USA, some of the experiments done in China could be reproduced in USA. Resonance Type Experiments require much patience, dedication and luck. So far, the individuals or teams who claimed success were not willing to disclose their results freely on the Internet. I firmly believe the theory is correct. There will be much tuning before the Steven Mark type results can be reproduced.

God Bless the Seeds that fall on fertile soil.

[frenky]

Ok I will redo the experiment in more scientific fashion.

[ltseung888]

Dinner with some unexpected results

Ok I will redo the experiment in more scientific fashion.

I attended a dinner with a number of new and old friends in a Chinese Restaurant.

Mr. Y: “How is the progress with your Bring-in Energy Research?”

Mr. K: “Do you need more helpers? My grandson is bored at home. He spends all his time playing computer games. Do you think that he can learn something with your project?”

Tseung: “I have ordered some equipment via the Internet. Unfortunately, they did not come as complete kits.”

Mr. Y: “With the Internet, you should only buy things that you are familiar with. You do not get any help from salesperson or technical support. Why don’t you buy exactly what you used in Hong Kong?”

Tseung: “Since I used young student helpers, I tried to get the cheapest stuff. For example, I ordered the USB PC oscilloscope set but it did not come with the probes. I had to place another order and there would be more delays. Your advice is right. I should just order the same equipment I used in Hong Kong.”

Mr. K: “I am doing nothing technical now and I am wasting my time cooking for my daughter’s family. I know that my Chinese Cooking was not appreciated. They respected my old age and did not complain openly. However, there is always much left-over and they go out after dinner to pick up pizzas. I would like to help and contribute.”

Tseung: “I shall spend enough money to get at least the same equipment as used in Hong Kong. In other words, I shall set up a “research branch” in US so that we can have some fun repeating and improving on the experiments in Hong Kong.”

Ms. J: “You should have done that when you arrived US. You wasted 9 months.”

Tseung: “It may all be in God’s timing. Nine months ago, I did not have the Three Divine Revelations.”

That was the conversation that decided the setting up of the US branch research laboratory. May God Guide us all.

[Armagdn03]

I attended a dinner with a number of new and old friends in a Chinese Restaurant.

Mr. Y: “How is the progress with your Bring-in Energy Research?”

Mr. K: “Do you need more helpers? My grandson is bored at home. He spends all his time playing computer games. Do you think that he can learn something with your project?”

Tseung: “I have ordered some equipment via the Internet. Unfortunately, they did not come as complete kits.”

Mr. Y: “With the Internet, you should only buy things that you are familiar with. You do not get any help from salesperson or technical support. Why don’t you buy exactly what you used in Hong Kong?”

Tseung: “Since I used young student helpers, I tried to get the cheapest stuff. For example, I ordered the USB PC oscilloscope set but it did not come with the probes. I had to place another order and there would be more delays. Your advice is right. I should just order the same equipment I used in Hong Kong.”

Mr. K: “I am doing nothing technical now and I am wasting my time cooking for my daughter’s family. I know that my Chinese Cooking was not appreciated. They respected my old age and did not complain openly. However, there is always much left-over and they go out after dinner to pick up pizzas. I would like to help and contribute.”

Tseung: “I shall spend enough money to get at least the same equipment as used in Hong Kong. In other words, I shall set up a “research branch” in US so that we can have some fun repeating and improving on the experiments in Hong Kong.”

Ms. J: “You should have done that when you arrived US. You wasted 9 months.”

Tseung: “It may all be in God’s timing. Nine months ago, I did not have the Three Divine Revelations.”

That was the conversation that decided the setting up of the US branch research laboratory. May God Guide us all.

Forget pizza, I would enjoy traditional Chinese cooking any day!

[ltseung888]

Ordered function generator and oscilloscope

Just placed orders with eBay on a Function Generator and an Atten Oscilloscope. Both are from manufacturers in China and I used their products in Hong Kong before.

The total time for the equipment to arrive is from 3-4 weeks. Will order another Oscilloscope later.

The priced paid is more than double what I paid a year ago. Some increase may be due to the exchange rate. Some may be due to shipping. Much is probably the "overseas profit".

The price is still much lower than the US products with same functionality. It is difficult to see how the US manufactureres can compete on price in this on-line World.

[Dave45]

Mr. K: “I am doing nothing technical now and I am wasting my time cooking for my daughter’s family. I know that my Chinese Cooking was not appreciated. They respected my old age and did not complain openly. However, there is always much left-over and they go out after dinner to pick up pizzas. [/b]

That paragraph was priceless I laughed my ass off
Keep up the good work.

[ltseung888]

Hong Kong Government money for Multiple LCR work?

Got news that the Hong Kong Government is finally acting on its promise of giving every Hong Kong Citizen HK$6,000 - sharing the wealth.

That amount is sufficient to get the minimum set of equipment for Multiple LCR resonance testing.

My lastest order is 4 identical tuning forks on resonance boxes via eBay. The total is around US$150 including shipping. With these 4 tuning forks, we can absolutely confirm that three of more tuning forks sound louder and last longer than when one is struck alone in US.

We may even be able to build a primitive adjustable tube with the tuning forks at 1/4 wavelength apart. It will be a primitive version of a replication of the experiments in China. (See reply 29) Divine Revelation 1 will never be doubted.

God not only sends Angels. God sends money too.

[boguslaw]

God not only sends Angels. God sends money too.

where ? will He send me just a little for my experiments to allow me understand the real Truth about world? may I learn that without money, if so I would appreciate that...

[ltseung888]

Molecular Energy Pictures

Student X: "Can you explain the energy concept in terms of molecular motion? How is ordered motion different than random motion? How can the two energy pictures be the same?"

Tseung: "See the following picture. Assume one can re-orentate the molecular motions. The kinetic energy of the molecules will be the same. However, their ability to do work or force exerted on the surrounding will be different."

Student Y: "The resonating tuning forks in sympathetic vibrations can re-orientate the molecular motion. Piece of cake."

[boguslaw]

Student X: "Can you explain the energy concept in terms of molecular motion? How is ordered motion different than random motion? How can the two energy pictures be the same?"

Tseung: "See the following picture. Assume one can re-orentate the molecular motions. The kinetic energy of the molecules will be the same. However, their ability to do work or force exerted on the surrounding will be different."

Student Y: "The resonating tuning forks in sympathetic vibrations can re-orientate the molecular motion. Piece of cake."

yes,very good one I call it " local amplification by coherent energy transfer"
the main problem is time and energy needed to rearrange molecules movement (flow). The same secret with capacitor - coherent discharge makes amplification (only locally) of energy but takes the same or higher energy and/or time to arrange (charge) "molecules" in capacitor first.

Then you should find one important truth: only combination of a few methods gives really wonderful effect. Here is missing positive feedback shortening arrangement time in exponential manner (or parametric resonance which is the same method)

[ltseung888]

eBay purchaes confirmed

The eBay purchases have been confirmed.

The following experiments will take place:

1. The four tuning forks. The purpose is to confirm that two tuning forks sound louder and last long than when one is struck alone. Three tuning forks sound even louder and last even longer. Four tuning forks will sound the loudest and last longest. If possible, build a primitive resonance tube with the tuning forks placed at quarter wavelengths apart.

2. Use one oscilloscope to recheck the prototypes that showed high peak-to-peak output power values. Tune and post the waveforms and analysis results.

3. Check whether the Michael Du prototype produced in USA is overunity.

4. Tune for resonance using the function generator. Once the resonance frequency is obtained with Secondary A and Secondary B, check and pray for self- resonance.

5. Do experiments leading to the Steven Mark type TPU. May need to purchase another Atten Oscilloscope for ease of tuning.

In other words, I should have the minimum set up to repeat the experiments done in China in 2010. The results will be shown free to the World. Thank you to the Hong Kong Government that provided HK$6,000 to each of its citizens.

Two additional bonuses are the Electronic Snap Kits and a cheap USB oscilloscope for training.

Work according to God’s Timing. We shall have peace of mind. The results have been revealed already. Study the Divine Revelations.

[ltseung888]

Electronic Snap Kit 303

The Electronic Snap Kit 303 contains a group of experiments showing waveforms. It uses the sound card interface on the Computer. The software is available on a CD. There will be limitations but it may be an inexpensive way to learn.

It will take a week or two for the students to master the software and the experiments. Hopefully, it will be a good learning experience.

[ltseung888]

Winscope software that comes with Snap Kit 303

What is New?

I now have a chance to install the Winscope software on my PC. As expected, it works with normal microphones. The Sound Waveform can be displayed and analyzed.

Please see the two last figures at the above link.

It looks like that we have a simple way of capturing the waveforms of 1, 2, 3 and 4 tuning forks in screen readable format. We do not have to rely on the ears to confirm Divine Revelation 1 – two or more tuning forks sound louder and last longer. The energy comes from the kinetic energy of the air molecules.

Trust the Lord. Follow His Guidance.