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  • Show and tell -- supplies

    For now, I can show -- tomorrow I would like to prod a little bit about this recipe MM.


    the iron wire:


    Silicon dioxide:


    Black tourmaline


    Orpiment:


    Moonstone:



    I have a mortar and pestle set comming in to finely grind the stones into powder. For now, I have been using

    The iron wire up top is enamled, the bottom spool is "bare" and oxidises. Enamled is .80 MM, and I have .80 MM insulated copper wire.

    Spare iron rod and the extra iron wire are planned to go towards a stubblefield earth battery later.

    I hope to clairify the purpose of assembly tomorrow.
    Goodnight,
    ==Romo

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    • Thank you Romo for the update much appreciated...and I am humbled by the trust you put on this research ...know that I truly appreciated (especially today...woke up in a foul mood ...just shows how much I still have to go , to better myself )

      looking forward to the results of the experiment...As usual always be cautious

      Believing is Seeing

      Experience is made before the law is formulated, both are related like cause and effect. So long as we are clearly conscious of the expectation
      Nikola Tesla
      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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      • Originally posted by petar113507 View Post
        For now, I can show -- tomorrow I would like to prod a little bit about this recipe MM.


        the iron wire:


        Silicon dioxide:


        Black tourmaline


        Orpiment:


        Moonstone:



        I hope to clairify the purpose of assembly tomorrow.
        Goodnight,
        ==Romo
        NOW you have the 7 planets.....don't forget water and copper...you posted pics of five planets
        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • From the Secret of Ancient Magic ...you can find it online (full of very interesting infos from the ancien Alchemist...I don't get too hung up on the spells; i look at it as an info ) :

          The Queen of Heaven and Goddess of Love has for
          a religious icon a flower and a star. According to
          mythological renditions, the planet Venus is one
          of Her symbols and so is the number seven. Seven
          is the number of primary planets used in ancient
          Chaldean Magian magic. The Rose of the Life has
          forty-nine petals or seven by seven. It is no surprise, then, that one of
          most guarded secrets of ancient magic and names of power deals with
          the planetary spheres. The seven planetary spheres constitute one of
          the main pillars of ancient astrology and are used in magical ritual
          work through history and central to Hermetic correspondences
          .
          These spheres represent the lenses by which Light fl ows into our
          lives and shapes many aspects of both our personality and options.
          Due to its direct infl uence on our personality and circumstances,
          transformational life magic is the magic of the celestial planets. Celestial
          magic isn’ t separated from Divine magic, but is one of the layers
          of its manifestation.

          The seven ancient planets are not all planets, by modern astronomical
          defi nition, as they include among them the Sun and Moon.
          The Arabic word for a planet is Kawkab, which is very similar to the
          Hebrew word Kokab or Star. The word Kawkab was also used in medieval
          and ancient Arabic astrological writing when referring to stars.
          It seems that the ancients viewed these planets and stars simply as
          heavenly bodies; some were thought of as moving fast and others very
          slowly. The seven primary stellar bodies or planets are Saturn, Jupiter,
          Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury and the Moon. This order is known
          as the Chaldean order. The ancients viewed each planet as alive and
          emanating a sentient spiritual essence or rouhaniah endowed in it by


          the Flower



          The Star











          ps: Romo do me a favor...play those songs / spells you read about in the other thread while you experiment...you never know...besides they have a good rhythm
          Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-20-2011, 04:00 PM.
          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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          • Learning is an investment. Thank you for investing in us by sharing your thoughts.
            To the extent that I understand your thoughts, I will make great effort to work as your hands, friend. I hope that we can clairify the process to invest this learning into open source.

            To lay it clearly in case anyone's catching up -- the recipe was inspired by the tractate.

            Was it from this part?

            Take of the humidity, or moisture, an ounce and a half, and or the Southern redness, which is the soul of gold, a fourth part, that is to say, half-an-ounce of the citrine Seyre, in like manner, half-an-ounce of the Auripigment, half-an-ounce, which are eight; that is three ounces. And know ye that the vine of the wise is drawn forth in three, but the wine thereof is not perfected, until at length thirty be accomplished
            From: The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus

            What I bolded above -- the three's and thirty -- does that have anything to do with the crystalization process?

            You mentioned also the planets -- at this point I have some conflicting perspectives as to what to do. I don't know about planet's ratios to each other, and the above (tractate) list does not directly translate into the ingredients I have. If you see how it does, can you drop perhaps another clue?

            Assuming crystallization results from electric pulsations -- Do you add each ingredient at the same time and dissolve everything into a uniform mix; or add different crystals at different times? Would you spin the copper tube apparatus for the entire time, or just as a mixing phase?

            Did an "ounce" ever mean a different weight than is presently standardized? (I will look this up in the morning, I am tired for tonight -- this is to record my thoughts)

            Personally -- I'm a little fuzzy on what how the matierals behave, so I'm going to play with them for a bit to see if I can pick out some tidbits that might get me to a growing process.

            I have a copper tube -- gotta run to the hardware store tomorrow to get some caps for them so the tube can hold water inside. I was planning on wrapping a caduceus with three "canceling" points around it, and pulsing it with the "sound of the sun" to see if there is a difference in ordering by just pulsing. Drying the water drops of the silicon dioxide mix is how I am trying to see if "needles" in the dried footprint indicate ordering.

            Tonight, I am drying dissolved some of that spice company's silicon in a "normal" vs "spun" in wine bottle water magnetizer for 5 min to see if there is any ordering. Will keep you posted.

            I will look tomorrow, to see what russell's ratios of planets have to each other to see what pops up; namely, the planets of the Chaldean order --
            Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury and the Moon.
            Am also planning on reviewing the last few pages in the morning -- I havent read them enough yet, and they had some good nuggets about crystalization. Goodnight for now,

            ==Romo

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            • Let me start off with the key:

              a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
              so if we look at the statement :

              Take of the humidity, or moisture, an ounce and a half, and or the Southern redness, which is the soul of gold, a fourth part, that is to say, half-an-ounce of the citrine Seyre, in like manner, half-an-ounce of the Auripigment, half-an-ounce, which are eight; that is three ounces. And know ye that the vine of the wise is drawn forth in three, but the wine thereof is not perfected, until at length thirty be accomplished
              what does it remind you of :

              Rules of Harmonics (or if you prefer Principle of Correspondence
              The mathematics of the grid can be called harmonic math, as the entire system is harmonic in nature. The rules to understanding this harmonic system are as follows:


              1. Zeros to the left or right of the decimal point are insignificant.
              2. The system is based on 6 and 10.

              Looking at some examples for each of these rules will illustrate their significance.

              1. Zeros to the left or right of the decimal point are insignificant.

              Example: 144000 nautical miles/grid sec is the maximum speed of light at the equator. Examining 144000, we find the following:

              144000 is harmonically equivalent to 144, 14.4, 1.44, and .000144.

              so Hermes was already hinting at the rule of Harmonic Math

              -------------------for the ounce value History of measurement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              Weights were based on units of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, and 500, with each unit weighing approximately 28 grams, similar to the English ounce or Roman uncia, and smaller objects were weighed in similar ratios with the units of 0.871.

              Other systems were based on the use of parts of the body and the natural surroundings as measuring instruments. Ancient Indian measurements related to the body are corelated to the finger measure of 1⅜ inch. This measure is found throughout the human body in increments. It is the measure used to build ancient temples and is precisely related to the Indus Valley measuring devices. Early Babylonian and Egyptian records and the Bible indicate that length was first measured with the forearm, hand, or finger and that time was measured by the periods of the sun, moon, and other heavenly bodies. When it was necessary to compare the capacities of containers such as gourds or clay or metal vessels, they were filled with plant seeds which were then counted to measure the volumes. When means for weighing were invented, seeds and stones served as standards. For instance, the carat, still used as a unit for gems, was derived from the carob seed.
              The grain was the earliest unit of mass and is the smallest unit in the apothecary, avoirdupois, Tower, and troy systems. The early unit was a grain of wheat or barleycorn used to weigh the precious metals silver and gold. Larger units preserved in stone standards were developed that were used as both units of mass and of monetary currency. The pound was derived from the mina used by ancient civilizations. A smaller unit was the shekel, and a larger unit was the talent. The magnitude of these units varied from place to place. The Babylonians and Sumerians had a system in which there were 60 shekels in a mina and 60 minas in a talent.
              and surprise: The Golden Section and The human body

              The Golden Section and The human body

              The Golden Section, also known as Phi, is manifested in the structure of the human body. If the length of the hand has the value of 1, for instance, then the combined length of hand + forearm has the approximate value of Phi. Similarly the proportion of upper arm to hand + forearm is in the same ratio of 1: Phi .



              up next the planets
              Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-21-2011, 01:04 PM.
              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • Slight correction...Water is not a Planet in your recipe but its Universe...the seventh planet is Magnetite


                The planets






                unto the elements: Metaphysical Properties of Crystals (not all the correspondence come from this link )


                Black Tourmaline
                Ruling Planet: Saturn


                Auripigment:
                Ruling Planet: Mercury


                Magnetite:
                Ruling Planet: Jupiter

                Moonstone
                Ruling Planet: Moon


                Copper
                Ruling planet: Venus


                iron
                Ruling Planet: Mars



                Quartz:
                Ruling Planet: Sun


                That is my belief..for the correspondence

                but the main ingredient is and will always be:

                I'm going to play with them for a bit to see if I can pick out some tidbits that might get me to a growing process.
                Until it grows in you...and you feel the Muses sing in your ear

                ps: use gloves and protection glasses please for safety sake...Experimentation deserve respect so show some respect by being cautious
                Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-21-2011, 02:53 PM.
                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • Another alternative is take the Golden Ratio Curve...trace a line from the Center extending above and below or measure the Seven golden rectangles etc...when the curve intersect with this line seven times....you have your measurement for the formula....you decide how you want to play with these measures...remember the key





                  Principle of Mentalism: The Universe is all waves

                  So when you choose the length of the iron wire...size of the copper container....weight etc...think Harmonic Math
                  Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-21-2011, 02:22 PM.
                  Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                  • COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
                    An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways
                    . a harmonic cascade effect
                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • You can start by weighing each ingredient / planet you are going to put in the mix...like Tesla but slightly updated
                      Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-21-2011, 03:01 PM.
                      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                      • Here is an example of Musical Harmony...you should watch it

                        The Great Freddie - YouTube

                        never seen anyone do it; like he does

                        Freddie Mercury involving the crowd like no one else could do. July 1986 at Wembley stadium
                        that is a whole lot of antennas


                        you'll get goose bumps if you are one with music which also means you are tuned

                        If you follow close : he goes Above and Below
                        Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-21-2011, 04:15 PM.
                        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • Here is a weird synchronicity for you...I was just about to listen to the coast to coast radio show where i found this picture:



                          MrSuperpotatotomato's Channel - YouTube



                          Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                          From the Secret of Ancient Magic ...you can find it online (full of very interesting infos from the ancien Alchemist...I don't get too hung up on the spells; i look at it as an info ) :





                          the Flower



                          The Star











                          ps: Romo do me a favor...play those songs / spells you read about in the other thread while you experiment...you never know...besides they have a good rhythm
                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • The Queen of Heaven and Goddess of Love has for
                            a religious icon a flower and a star. According to
                            mythological renditions, the planet Venus is one
                            of Her symbols and so is the number seven. Seven
                            is the number of primary planets used in ancient
                            Chaldean Magian magic. The Rose of the Life has
                            forty-nine petals or seven by seven. It is no surprise, then, that one of
                            most guarded secrets of ancient magic and names of power deals with
                            the planetary spheres. The seven planetary spheres constitute one of
                            the main pillars of ancient astrology and are used in magical ritual
                            work through history and central to Hermetic correspondences
                            .
                            These spheres represent the lenses by which Light fl ows into our
                            lives and shapes many aspects of both our personality and options.
                            Due to its direct infl uence on our personality and circumstances,
                            transformational life magic is the magic of the celestial planets. Celestial
                            magic isn’ t separated from Divine magic, but is one of the layers
                            of its manifestation.
                            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

                            Comment


                            • BTw:

                              Loud music makes alcohol taste sweeter: studyÂ* - NY Daily News

                              According to a British study out of the University of Portsmouth announced Thursday, the volume of music and noise in a drinking environment could alter the taste of alcohol and have a significant impact on consumption.

                              In the study, about 80 participants were asked to rate a selection of drinks on the basis of alcohol strength, sweetness and bitterness while subjected to different distractions, including music, listening and repeating a news story, both, or silence.

                              The study found that drinks were rated significantly sweeter overall when participants were listening to music alone
                              . And when they were exposed to the maximum level of distraction -- music and shadowing the news story -- subjects were less able to detect alcohol strength as the din of noise appeared to impair their judgement.


                              music makes life taste sweeter.... Principle of Correspondence

                              “Since humans have an innate preference for sweetness, these findings offer a plausible explanation as to why people consume more alcohol in noisy environments,” said lead researcher and psychologist Lorenzo Stafford in a statement.
                              Meanwhile, a study published this fall in the British Journal of Psychology also found that music can influence how wine tastes.

                              ps: drink moderately or not at all ....walk the middle path....personally not a fan of loud and crowded places ...too many waves.... (but i like my drink once in a while )
                              Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-21-2011, 06:14 PM.
                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • Originally posted by dambit View Post
                                In the pdf http://www.scene.org/~esa/merlib/russell.pdf, the writer mentions that they couldn't get the coils close enough together to replicate the experiment exactly. I was thinking that maybe Russell used conical shaped coils that emulate the spiral vortices he writes about.

                                Just a thought,

                                Steve.
                                Read Leon Sprink and his colleague Jacques RAVATIN ...you'll see similarities to his experiments...especially the angles of the electrode:

                                Leon Sprink - Antigravity - patents

                                Jacques Ravatin -- Space & Fluid Activators




                                APPARATUS FOR AMPLIFYING EMISSIONS DUE TO SHAPES

                                1980-10-01

                                Description --

                                The present invention refers to an equipment making it possible to amplify the emissions due to the forms, in particular with the single geometric forms presenting a minimum of symmetry.

                                It is known that certain geometric forms, for example pyramids, are, when they present appropriate proportions, the seat of emissions which one could not determine to present the exact nature. One noted that such emissions had effects, in particular on the living organisms.
                                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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