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  • Dowsing is one of those human skills that are generally described as forgotten mystical mythical legacies, mostly relating to charlatans in peoples minds. But, it does seem to work. We're electrical devices with 70% water content, tuned and fractal energy based for however long we've been here...so why should we not resonate with the Earth ?!

    The telegraph linesmen will most likely have had high intuition, placing the plates by good judgement and repeated successes or failures, honing their skills. Many skills are like a guided torpedo in life - from love to science to anything else, re-gauging, re-calibrating and a lot of it quite naturally.
    One forgets quite as readily in life, that 'naturally' has taken many many thousands of years to seem to be natural !

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    • I used to work for a water well drilling co. when I was younger we dowsed wells Iv seen it work firsthand. We took a peach limb that had a fork like a Y striped the bark about four inches from ends, when held in your hands presser is applied to bend the limbs inward it will pull to water, Iv also seen it done with braising rods and coat hangers but Iv only used the peach limb which works best in my opinion.
      Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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      • It is also called witching, you want the sapling to be wet were you peel the bark, slippery in your hands, walk in one direction until it pulls down then walk in a line perpendicular to the first direction to verify.
        When you find a strong hit it will pull down by itself you cannot stop it.

        Dave
        Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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        • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
          It is also called witching, you want the sapling to be wet were you peel the bark, slippery in your hands, walk in one direction until it pulls down then walk in a line perpendicular to the first direction to verify.
          When you find a strong hit it will pull down by itself you cannot stop it.

          Dave
          What in your opinion causes this action?

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          • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
            If i obey the Principle of Correspondence and Principle of Mentalism, it is possible to use two opposite forces of higher frequency to "squeeze" water out of the atmosphere...ie an Airwell

            I once read an article on a gentleman that built a water powered car in the 90's. He was assassinated because he would not sell it for the billion dollars offered. I'm not sure if this man was using normal tap water or 'heavy water'. However, there had to be a separation of oxygen and hydrogen. Obviously using the hydrogen for fuel and expelling the oxygen. If this truly can be done then all that is necessary is taking those same components and figuring out how to reverse the process. I completely agree with your assessment...squeezing water from the air is completely possible.

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            • Guys, i would like to share with you an awesome info from Slider and a project he is running

              the new area of exploration is water
              While everyone on that thread is determined to rid water from experiments, it opened up so much for me when I put a few things mentally together.
              Very Victor Shauberger in principle.
              I have a thought, which appears to either be a confirmation of very common knowledge, or is new and either way i'm not finding references to it.
              You may have seen my 'water battery doing work' video on YouTube, well, that setup is STILL running ! it's now many days in and all that's powering the oscillator is water. On the 3rd day it stopped, so I shook the container and the LED started back up again.
              My theory, is that ions move to a natural balance, that they equate out the 2 dissimilar metals of the electrodes and try to return the water to a neutral balance. In so doing, the shifting of ions creates what we term electricity. If the container is shaken, the ions are rejumbled up and the process begins almost afresh. Once a day I shake the container and that's it for maintenance !
              Further, that many such circuits can be within the same water and all will run as though they are on their own in their own water containers !!!

              Next in line, I have a project on the workbench now. it's 6 oscillator circuits that have their outputs summed in 2 banks. The water gives 0.5V approx, so 3 oscillators will give 1.5V and the other 3 will add to the current of that 1.5V. All 6 have their inputs derived from the 1 water source (the lid of a coffee jar).
              The idea, is to create a usable solution for flashlights, LCD clocks etc. It can easily be imagined that a multi-lattice array of such cells, within a purpose made container for water, could produce solutions for camping power, emergency radio transmitters/receivers and more
              If you run out of power, just go to a puddle/stream/river or wait til it rains.



              Mark
              this maybe what we have been looking for in a water crystal battery..if you don't mind, i will post your description and video of it

              Water Battery - doing work - YouTube

              Mark you rock

              Originally posted by petar113507 View Post
              Dave, I like the way you think.



              What you are describing with your coils, is to create the potential. Leedskalinin's words, you are "concentrating" the magnets. To divide them, is to establish an asymmetry. To shift them is to use the asymmetry to do useful work.



              Looking forward to seeing some ideas.

              ==Romo

              I posted this here http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ystals-32.html

              found this while browsing Tesla's patent , see the asymmetry





              ps: Slider, being a fan of quartz, could you sprinkle quartz dust (if you have any ) in your coffee, and stir .... ; i just want to know if something happens
              Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-02-2011, 11:48 AM.
              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • now if the asymmetry was frozen into place...what do you think would happen...

                hint: it would re-balance on a different plane

                Slider i would suggest using a vortrap on you water to increase its potential

                from a previous post:

                vortexed water is not normal water...it is Mstate Water with different properties than the water you know

                Theory:
                We believe that the m-state (ORMUS) materials dissolved in water are superconductors which respond to magnetic fields. We have observed that most water, when swirled in the presence of a magnetic field can be separated into two components; a magnetically responsive component and a non-responsive component. Magnetic traps of various designs have been devised to take advantage of this property in order to concentrate a form of the ORMUS elements.
                This concentrate tends to be "oilier" than ordinary water, it also tends to be lighter than ordinary water especially when it is moving in relation to magnetic fields. A more detailed look at this theory can be found in my article "Patterns of Motion ".


                Magnetic Trap - Superwater - METAPHYSIC archives - MDG 2008-09

                note: Dave if you have magnets, you can make the same mstate water trap and test it....

                Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-02-2011, 12:06 PM.
                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • from: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post164909

                  I remembered some days ago this patent mentioned above but could not find it any more. And - voi la - the link was posted :-) Thanks!
                  Did you consider that copper oxide is a kind of semiconductor as well. So maybe a coil made of old corroded copper will perform well while a shiny new one might refuse OU.
                  BTW; Tinned copper wire ist told to perform a magent field with a factor of 4. Tin on copper gives a small area of bronce. Bronce is extremely brittel and it migh give a plurality of extremely small cracks whithin this area when bend and wound. Who knows if this has an major OU effect. This bronce area is responsible that copper wires break just at the beginning of the solder area. The minute cracks soon get longer and bigger and continue to extend in the copper zone of the wire.
                  Hence my notion ist that every minute detail might be important and worth to share as long as the nature of OU is not understood well.
                  JohnStone You maybe unto something, through out the research posted in various threads...oxygen and fractal gives high energy...example ferroelectric ice and lightning






                  read this post: i posted the following:

                  I posted this a while back, and while re-reading through it, i think there is an info that is quite relevant to my previous post:

                  Inexplicable Superconductor Fractals Hint at Higher Universal Laws | Wired Science | Wired.com

                  The qualities of a high-temperature superconductor — a compound in which electrons obey the spooky laws of quantum physics, and flow in perfect synchrony, without friction — appear linked to the fractal arrangements of seemingly random oxygen atoms....
                  ...Those atoms weren’t thought to matter, especially not in relation to the behavior of individual electrons, which exist at a scale thousands of times smaller. The findings, published Aug. 12 in Nature, are a physics equivalent of discovering a link between two utterly separate dimensions. (obviously they know nothing about the Fractal Universe Theory pfff.... )
                  Such fractals are ubiquitous elsewhere in nature,” wrote Leiden University theoretical physicist Jan Zaanen in an accompanying commentary, but “it comes as a complete surprise that crystal defects can accomplish this feat.
                  And I surmise that these defects (i would rather call them channels) can be controlled through frequency ( like ice crystals )
                  found the fractal pattern , woohooooo

                  Physicists find fractal boundaries in crystals

                  When a single crystal is bent, portions of the crystal shift and create defects in the lattice called dislocations. The researchers found that their crystals exhibited starkly contrasting properties depending on temperature.

                  When hot crystals were bent, the dislocations arranged into grain boundaries, which are the places where lattice planes suddenly tilt. At low temperatures, the dislocations formed self-similar, random patterns known as fractals.
                  see http://www.energeticforum.com/148982-post137.html

                  this one is a jewel (remember quartz, tree etc ....)

                  Electrons on the brink: Fractal patterns may be key to semiconductor magnetism (w/ Video)

                  Just as the heartbeats of today's electronic devices depend on the ability to switch the flow of electricity in semiconductors on and off with lightning speed, the viability of the "spintronic" devices of the future -- technologies that manipulate both the flow and magnetic "spin" of electrons -- will require similarly precise control over semiconductor magnetism.

                  2 down , one to go : exponents = Resonance (singing bowl/resonant bell )

                  Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-02-2011, 01:48 PM.
                  Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                  • side note:

                    I just found this natural method , that i will be applying to myself, so i figured i'd share it with you guys:

                    Oil pulling cleansing routine: for oral and systemic detoxification, fixing loose teeth and cavities, stopping tooth sensitivity, decay & abscesses, eliminating bleeding gums, strengthening and whitening teeth

                    Oil pulling for (dental) health
                    Detoxification, fixing loose teeth, cavities & bleeding gums, tooth whitening and more

                    Oil pulling is a simple but apparently powerful DIY practice (also known from Ayurveda) reputedly drawing toxins from your oral mucosa & destroying mouth germs while stimulating bodily eliminations and increasing metabolism, thus reportedly leading to various (sometimes dramatic) healing benefits and enhanced health incl. (apparently) whitening of teeth, fixing/fastening loose teeth, eliminating bleeding gums and preventing cavities.
                    I got sesame oil, so that is what' i'll be using
                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • I thought oil pulling required a nodding donkey and a big Texan hat

                      The quartz I have is only a presumed quartz...it's from rocks found around here.

                      Vortrap eh, now that sounds like fun and i'll definitely attempt something of that type. I haven't any ring type magnets, but do have some from the innards of motors that are somewhat similar. Unfortunately there is no flow, as in a regular tap (broken mains line), so i'll create a pump thing of some type to circulate it. Rain water runs oscillators just as well as any other, so that will be used.

                      Both LED oscillator circuits on test are still going, tomorrow will be a week for the first one
                      One cell is on the top of of a big old radio and it fluctuates and regulates all by itself it seems. This one is contaminated, because it's dish water. I wanted to see what the difference might be to 'reverse osmosis' bottled water. That cell starts up on its own after it stops, responds to the shake method and appears to self start with no shake in the late evening, around 10pm. It will run sometimes overnight again, or may quit again by about 3am. It may have been expected to start up again at sunset or sunrise ?
                      Natural mineral properties may be just as important as adding 'stuff' to make batteries.
                      It depends what you want the cell to do...trap the water in a molecule and gain almost everlasting low current properties, or bash a hammer at it with super volatile chemicals for big current. The third way, is perhaps to utilise the Earth Battery semi-conductor methods and gain a hybrid.

                      There are theories developing for stagnant water, particle acceptance from the cosmos and also natural streams/rivers life carrying properties. There truly appears to be much more to water than previously supposed.
                      What if - stagnant water in a pond were vigorously shaken by motorised equipment, causing ripples to extend throughout the mass ? would the pond clear up of algae and freshen up ?

                      Another cool aside to this, is that such oscillators, using dissimilar metals, will fire up when the electrodes are placed on the tongue
                      Last edited by Slider2732; 11-02-2011, 06:16 PM.

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                      • I thought oil pulling required a nodding donkey and a big Texan hat


                        I guess only through experimenting will we know
                        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • here is a little info about the many uses of water:

                          Use of Supercritical Water Could Cut Costs for Ethanol - Technology Review

                          Instead of using enzymes or acids, Renmatix employs supercritical water—water at very high temperatures and pressures. Under these conditions, cellulose will dissolve and very quickly break down into sugar molecules. The reactions take seconds, compared to days for some other processes. Because of the high speed of the reaction, a relatively small amount of equipment can produce a large amount of sugar, keeping capital costs down. Smaller equipment could also make it possible to distribute the production of biofuels, thereby decreasing the cost of transporting biomass.
                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                            check out his video...quite interesting.....really...especially the pictures he'll be showing



                            I was reading this article and watching the video and it suddenly occured to me. This might be a little profound so try to stay with me. I beleive in the bible. And I assuredly beleive that Noahs ark is on top of mount arrarat. I beleive that the world was completely flooded under four miles of water. And that water went back into the earth where it came from. I also beleive that amount of cubic water was 4 miles deep and around a large circumference, the exterior of the earth. This would mean the water would be several miles deeper when forced back into a smaller container...the interior of the earth.
                            Now besides that the earth rotates and has a slight woble to it because it is not perfectly round. Therefore the water on the interior of the earth is always in an "M" state. The ground is always being electrified but at such a low amount that it is nearly impossible to do anything with it. However, many technicins while working on telegraph lines used the earth as a battery that ran for decades even after the telegraph lines had been replaced by phone lines. The deeper you dig the higher the voltage and energy you would get simply because the mantle of the earth is acting as a natural dielectric. However, no dielectric comletley stops all electricity.
                            WHen watching the video of the first X-Ray machine I saw he used two metal plates as a spark gap. These two metal plates were placed under a large container of water to keep the plates cool. Then it hit me light...well...lightening. WHat if the clouds passing above our heads, when filled with water, completed a floating spark gap. As well all know lightining can pass from cloud to cloud. Therefore proving that electricity is formed in the clouds. And as children we thought that lightening would strike from the cloud to the ground. But when slow motion photography was produced we learned the truth. Lightening when passing between the earth and the clouds goes up from the earth up to the clouds then back down the same path. The strike upwards towards the clouds is dimmer than the one coming down but none the less emminates from the earth first. Therfore proving the earth, over a vast area, holds alot of elecricty. Lightening is nothing more than electricty passing between a giant spark gap...the clouds and the earth. please comment on this because I thought it was pretty profound.

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                            • It sure is Principle of Correspondence

                              a while back i posted this




                              The mysterious "Relámpago del Catatumbo" (Catatumbo lightning) is aunique natural phenomenon in the world. Located on the mouth of the Catatumbo river at Lake Maracaibo (Venezuela), the phenomenon is a cloud-to-cloud lightning that forms a voltage arc more than five kilometre high during 140 to 160 nights a year, 10 hours a night, and as many as 280 times an hour. This almost permanent storm occurs over the marshlands where the Catatumbo River feeds into Lake Maracaibo and it is considered the greatest single generator of ozone in the planet

                              a Giant Spark Gap over a moving water Body

                              As Above So Below, from Within so without
                              and you can interpret the above in so many ways...

                              here is a little excerpt on Resonance:




                              read the last few sentences and think of a spark gap and how it works

                              Last edited by MonsieurM; 11-03-2011, 12:28 AM.
                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • if you look carefully at the above drawing, you have

                                capacitor = 6 3 9
                                Spark gap = 6 3 9
                                Primary/Secondary = 6 3 9



                                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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