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  • Sorry for the repeat ...but the following pictures taken from the painting kept bugging me:



    you have the double helix and Mobius like design present on the same drawing ...and the only design i know of that is mixing both is the following: The Mobius Caduceus Coil




    btw: I would really love (pretty please )to hear someone replicate the double Mobius Caduceus Coil experiment ..it is really simple...and heats water quite fast but i have no clue what happens...call it inspiration when it was built...

    Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post

    Check out this thread, I am trying to get people to reproduce an experiment I ran a while back coincidently with another version of a Caduceus Coil...and the guys over there are doing an amazing job at Advancing our discussion....We welcome all the help .....

    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-query-43.html start with post #1271



    you'll understand when you watch the vid
    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • on a side Note: Worth testing the Mobius Caduceus Coil when Growing your Crystal cell

      From: Science and Technology - Scalar Waves

      The DNA antenna in our cells’ energy production centers (mitochondria) assumes the shape of what is called a super-coil. Supercoil DNA look like a series of möbius coils. These möbius supercoil DNA are hypothetically able to generate scalar waves. Most cells in the body contain thousands of these möbius supercoils, which are generating scalar waves throughout the cell and throughout the body.”
      DNA Coil



      Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-23-2011, 02:00 PM.
      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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      • Oldest obsidian bracelet reveals amazing craftsmen's skills in the eighth millennium BC

        Researchers from the Institut Français d'Etudes Anatoliennes in Istanbul and the Laboratoire de Tribologie et de Dynamiques des Systèmes have analyzed the oldest obsidian bracelet ever identified, discovered in the 1990s at the site of Aşıklı Höyük, Turkey. Using high-tech methods developed by LTDS to study the bracelet's surface and its micro-topographic features, the researchers have revealed the astounding technical expertise of craftsmen in the eighth millennium BC. Their skills were highly sophisticated for this period in late prehistory, and on a par with today's polishing techniques. This work is published in the December 2011 issue of Journal of Archaeological Science, and sheds new light on Neolithic societies, which remain highly mysterious.
        originally found here: Oldest obsidian bracelet reveals amazing craftsmen's skills in the eighth millennium BC, page 1

        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • From: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-query-48.html

          Originally posted by Altair View Post
          Hi everyone,
          I'm new on this thread. I've read it entirely before posting.

          Early in this thread, Prof Savic wrote that the inside diameter of the beer can was very important because it had to be the quarter wave length of the frequency 1.1530479 MHz
          He said that the diameter of the can had to be 65mm.
          Doing the calculations, the wavelength of that frequency is 260.18mm.
          260.18 / 4 = 65.045
          Close enough.

          Recently, Monsieur M posted an excerpt from another web site that read:
          "But what you have to realize is that he left us a clue....Exploding water with 42712.2Hz...and Harmonic Math will definitely allow you to find the frequency to boil water"

          So I did a little calculation to see if there was a relation between the two frequencies. Let's apply the harmonic math to the frequency that explodes water:

          42712.2 x 9 = 384409.8 Hz
          384409.8 x 3 = 1.153229.4 MHz !

          Pretty close to the frequency Dr Savic mentionned isn't it ?

          I did a search for the frequency he mentions but no results come out, except the forum pages here, and at O.U.R.

          So, my first question to him would be:
          Did you arrive at that frequency by the same calculations I did ?

          Second question is:
          How did you determine the optimum length of the can ?
          Could we obtain the correct mechanical resonance of the can with thicker wall and longer length ? (As opposed to very thin wall and length limited by what is available on the shelves of beer stores)

          Thirdly, I would like to know if the gap of 2.52mm has been determined also by harmonic calculations, and if it is based on 60HZ or its harmonics.

          I would like to thank you sincerely Dr Savic, for bringing the information on this technology.
          But in order to succeed, we must absolutely understand the principle by which this system works. Otherwise, we will never be able to build efficient replicas. The whole point of participating on this forum, and doing experiments, is to bring new knowledge to the world, and stop the suppression of efficient technologies.
          This water heater is the most promising simple technology at the moment, and if we manage to get it known worldwide, this will probably trigger the start of the real disclosure of free energy technologies in the entire world.

          Sincerely yours.
          Altair thank you so much for the calculations.... wow you made my day

          now unto the details about thickness, length etc...

          first of we have to realize that this set up is scalable (let's assume for now it is )
          from that statement above, you should realize that it is not about having a fixed size to succeed but the relation of all the component have to each other just like a musical instrument....a violin does not have the same chord as a guitar

          Sonic boiler a musical instrument not only heater.
          Because God is an artist not only a scientist.
          prof.Savić, Serbia.
          think of how you build a Resonant Circuit RLC or LC if you Prefer ( for the electronics wizard ) it takes a special combination to reach resonance

          Not all Resonant Circuits are alike and yet they are Resonant

          Electron for a moment lost in kavntnom [not translated properly IMO]
          field (leave this dimension)
          I think the word is Quantum field

          -----------

          One last analogy

          Not all Spider webs are the same , and yet they still manage to catch flies

          Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-23-2011, 09:38 PM.
          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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          • Merry Celebrations To All During this Festive Time...And hope you feel the Good Vibe

            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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            • Some of you may wonder where did the following come from:

              42712.2 x 9 = 384409.8 Hz
              384409.8 x 3 = 1.153229.4 MHz

              from the post: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-query-43.html

              Water is a ready and fit subject for vibratory research on account of its "differential volume" and gravity of its gases. Even on simple thirds the differential action between hydrogen and oxygen causes antagonism and dissociation. The differential of mass is such that the hydrogen and oxygen become thoroughly repellant and thereby exhibit thousands of times more force than could be induced by heat on the same amount of water. Vibration of antagonistic thirds, sixths and ninths on the mass chord will compel progressive subdivisions and to get the best effect on water, the instrument is set on all of these. First, the focalizing chord of sixths induces perfect harmony to the mass chord.


              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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              • so I figured I'd take a look at 369 Magic Square...found the following

                The numbers associated with the Moon are 9, 81, 369, and 3321. This is because: Each row and column of the magic square contains nine numbers.
                The square contains 81 numbers total, ranging from 1 to 81.
                Each row, column and diagonal adds up to 369.
                All of the numbers in the square add up to 3321.




                the Seal of the Moon: Planetary Seal of The Moon




                In the Western occult tradition, each planet can be represented by a seal or diagram. The seal is based off of the planet's magic square, with the seal theoretically touching every number within the square, although in practice that is not always apparently the case.

                As drawn here, the seal actually does intersect with every box of the magic square of the Moon. However. as commonly drawn, there are actually several squares that are not included.

                Like the seals of Mars and Venus, the seal of the Moon is based off a magic square with an odd number of boxes per row. Also like those two seals, this seal commonly does not include all boxes.

                However, the seals of Mars and Venus are asymmetrical, and while they bear many similarities with each other, they bear far fewer visual similarities with the seal of the Moon.

                It may be more helpful to compare the seal of the Moon with that of the Sun, as Sun and Moon are commonly seen as a pair as the great luminaries of the sky. Both seals are comprised of two large, intersecting diagonals, and both contain four crescent shapes. The crescent shape is particularly appropriate for the Moon, which frequently appears as a crescent in the night sky. The common astrological symbol for the Moon is also a crescent.

                Donald Tyson suggests that the 13 small circles in this seal may correspond to the 13 lunar months that are in a year. However, since he considers those circles to have only aesthetic value in the other seals, this may very well be coincidence.
                Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-24-2011, 01:06 AM.
                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                • the seven seals based of there respective Magic Square:


                  Black Tourmaline
                  Ruling Planet: Saturn


                  Auripigment:
                  Ruling Planet: Mercury


                  Magnetite:
                  Ruling Planet: Jupiter



                  Moonstone
                  Ruling Planet: Moon


                  Copper
                  Ruling planet: Venus


                  iron
                  Ruling Planet: Mars


                  Quartz:
                  Ruling Planet: Sun





                  Btw: Searl Engine is based of magic squares Magic Squares and Levitation
                  Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-24-2011, 01:23 AM.
                  Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                  • Originally posted by Altair View Post
                    Is mechanical 60Hz resonance more important , or is electric 1.15MHz resonance more important ?

                    Altair

                    I was wondering where the 6 went, in this system...60 hz...harmonic math 60 is 6




                    42712.2 x 9 = 384409.8 Hz
                    384409.8 x 3 = 1.153229.4 MHz



                    COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
                    An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways
                    . a harmonic cascade effect

                    Try the same operation for 50 hz....using the 5 2 8 triangle
                    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                    • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                      I was wondering where the 6 went, in this system...60 hz...harmonic math 60 is 6




                      42712.2 x 9 = 384409.8 Hz
                      384409.8 x 3 = 1.153229.4 MHz



                      COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
                      An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways
                      . a harmonic cascade effect
                      I was just reviewing some numbers posted in this thread and started with

                      an info posted by Prof Savic : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...r-query-2.html

                      1.725mm electrode distance is 60 Hz. 300 Hz and the negative electrode has to play the sonic boil
                      Reduction is one of the method used in Harmonic Math (also called Rodin Math )

                      1.725 = 1 + 7 + 2 + 5 = 15 = 6
                      60 Hz = 6
                      300 Hz = 3



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                      I think 2.1mm was the space between the can and the ring so the ring should be 70.2mm
                      2.1 mm = 3
                      70.2 mm = 9


                      I hope you see the Pattern...just find the 3 6 and 9

                      last but not least:

                      Early in this thread, Prof Savic wrote that the inside diameter of the beer can was very important because it had to be the quarter wave length of the frequency 1.1530479 MHz
                      1.1530479 MHz = 1 + 1 + 5 +3 + 4 + 7 + 9 = 30 = 3


                      I think you'll Appreciate this one:

                      Sonic boiler are trying to make a 110 Volt 60 Hertz has a COP = 6.93

                      What you supply area of the apartment, you calculate the width and thickness of the electrode, zero reba to resonate at 300 Hz. Fuse will die if you are using electricity for over 15 Amperes.
                      300Hz = 3
                      15 Amp = 6






                      a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
                      Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-24-2011, 01:45 PM.
                      Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                      • a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
                        If you understood the above statement , you'll understand the following

                        Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                        just on a side note: the double spiral water closely resembles the double mobius coil mentioned earlier

                        Step 1

                        2 wires of six feet each to be made into 2 mobius wires (you end up with 2 mobius wires that are 1/4 the length of 6 feet )coiled at 45 degrees (see how to build a mobius coil Mobius Coil Tutorial )



                        Step 2

                        Coil the first Mobius Wire as previously indicated in a Caduceus Manner (three times / three crossing maybe )

                        Step 3

                        Coil the Second Mobius wire 180 degrees opposite of the first Coil

                        Step 4:

                        Connect as previously indicated http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-query-43.html start with post #1271




                        enjoy the experimentation

                        COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
                        An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways
                        . a harmonic cascade effect
                        Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-24-2011, 03:02 PM.
                        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                        • Originally posted by evolvingape View Post
                          Hi everyone,

                          I believe I cracked the secret of 3, 6, 9, a few years back... some of you might recognise this

                          I will not give you my explanation just yet, I want you to think about it for yourself and see if you can figure out what is going on...

                          Merry Christmas 2011

                          Rob
                          nice finding evolvingape...




                          ps: A fractal exist on multiple dimensions...so to be more precise you have discovered one facet of 369

                          a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
                          ps: A fractal exist on multiple dimensions...so to be more precise you have discovered one facet of 369

                          a fractal construct has an 'efficient function', it has a fractal ergonomy to them, they function on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions:
                          here is a 3D version of your finding



                          vortex like, isn't it
                          Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-24-2011, 04:02 PM.
                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                            Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                            The frequency you would need frequency 528 Hz (DNA repair frequency ?) : NO MUSIC single tone - YouTube

                            I believe it could be done, would be a worthwhile en devour, after we get FE I will go in this direction.
                            Tesla found that the electric field healed the body, I probably read it in one of your posts
                            found this here: Messiah in the Torah – Genesis 1:6-8 « Little Guy in the Eye



                            It’s all based on frequencies… Everything in the universe is based on math. Language is math because sound is electromagnetic frequencies which is math. Language and sounds are heard because they vibrate at certain rates called Hertz frequencies, or cycles per second. Your brain perceives these energized vibrations and interprets the messages according to your programming or neurology and memory circuits formed from life experiences Letters=numbers=sounds=colors=shapes

                            Note: Purple corresponds to 540 hz

                            while doing some research, i found the following:

                            holistic living center







                            Last edited by MonsieurM; 12-24-2011, 04:57 PM.
                            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                            • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                              while doing some research, i found the following:






                              MODEL OF A WAVE

                              Fuller saw the icosidodecahedron as the model of the electromagnetic wave. (Synergetics 11, 1033.112). What is required to model a wave?
                              The model must represent the electromagnetic properties of a wave, and 2-fold symmetry, which establishes the creation of two fields: electric and magnetic, can be represented by the icosidodecahedron. The two fields are perpendicular to one another, producing an electromagnetic wave which is perpendicular to both fields.



                              The above design reminded me of a post made a while back here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-magnet-7.html

                              Originally posted by Dave45


                              Lets look at what happens when the two coils are perpendicular to each other



                              .
                              I found the following which reminded me of your drawing: FREE ENERGY # 27 ELECTRICITY GENERATOR USING SINGLE MAGNETIC FLUX PATH (MOTIONLESS) - YouTube



                              the reason it also caught my attention is that the next picture also looks similar from a Russian engineer-electrician Alexander Kushelevwe previously talked about here: http://www.energeticforum.com/153539-post454.html


                              [IMG][/IMG]

                              ------------------




                              Btw: link to patent mentioned in the vid:

                              ELECTRICITY GENERATING APPARATUS ... - Google Patents

                              russian link

                              Íàíî, íàíîìèð, ïèêîòåõíîëîãèÿ, ìèêðîâîëíîâàÿ ýíåðãåòèêà / Ôîðìû, ìåõàíèçìû, ýíåðãèÿ Íàíîìèðà
                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                                Some of you may wonder where did the following come from:

                                42712.2 x 9 = 384409.8 Hz
                                384409.8 x 3 = 1.153229.4 MHz

                                from the post: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-query-43.html





                                Btw all the value necessary for building the Davey Sonic Boiler or The Doulble Caduceus mobius are found here

                                so I figured I'd take a look at 369 Magic Square...found the following

                                The numbers associated with the Moon are 9, 81, 369, and 3321. This is because: Each row and column of the magic square contains nine numbers.
                                The square contains 81 numbers total, ranging from 1 to 81.
                                Each row, column and diagonal adds up to 369.
                                All of the numbers in the square add up to 3321.




                                the Seal of the Moon: Planetary Seal of The Moon




                                In the Western occult tradition, each planet can be represented by a seal or diagram. The seal is based off of the planet's magic square, with the seal theoretically touching every number within the square, although in practice that is not always apparently the case.

                                As drawn here, the seal actually does intersect with every box of the magic square of the Moon. However. as commonly drawn, there are actually several squares that are not included.

                                Like the seals of Mars and Venus, the seal of the Moon is based off a magic square with an odd number of boxes per row. Also like those two seals, this seal commonly does not include all boxes.

                                However, the seals of Mars and Venus are asymmetrical, and while they bear many similarities with each other, they bear far fewer visual similarities with the seal of the Moon.

                                It may be more helpful to compare the seal of the Moon with that of the Sun, as Sun and Moon are commonly seen as a pair as the great luminaries of the sky. Both seals are comprised of two large, intersecting diagonals, and both contain four crescent shapes. The crescent shape is particularly appropriate for the Moon, which frequently appears as a crescent in the night sky. The common astrological symbol for the Moon is also a crescent.

                                Donald Tyson suggests that the 13 small circles in this seal may correspond to the 13 lunar months that are in a year. However, since he considers those circles to have only aesthetic value in the other seals, this may very well be coincidence.
                                just try..and you'll see...slice the number (for ex 2.52 into 2 and 52 )
                                Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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