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  • #91
    Check this patent out , i think you'll like it for inspiration sake

    ELECTROMAGNETIC SYSTEMS WITH DOUBLE ... - Google Patents



    Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
      Check this patent out , i think you'll like it for inspiration sake

      ELECTROMAGNETIC SYSTEMS WITH DOUBLE ... - Google Patents



      Thank you for finding this, seems I need to keep my mouth shut in future. There is always someone trying to make money on others work and inventions.

      There is a problem with the description as what is shown is not exactly what happens.

      Mike

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
        Thank you for finding this, seems I need to keep my mouth shut in future. There is always someone trying to make money on others work and inventions.

        There is a problem with the description as what is shown is not exactly what happens.

        Mike

        You are most welcome, you have shown us a phenomena that is quite important in our research in general, (for the simple reason that it exists in nature ) , so i guess good vibes are answering back

        Now, if i could ask you what is the effect resulting from the coupling because it could help us in the threads

        http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...gnetism-7.html

        http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ystals-16.html

        in other words, are the results described correct (coupling and all )

        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
          Thank you for finding this, seems I need to keep my mouth shut in future. There is always someone trying to make money on others work and inventions.

          There is a problem with the description as what is shown is not exactly what happens.

          Mike
          Hi Mike

          Tesla used the spiral coil in his inventions and invented the bifilar spiral coil. Is this bifilar winding any good in creating the EH/HZ fields?



          Is this EH HZ design creating a magnetic longitudinal wave? Different from Tesla's electric longitudinal wave?

          Cheers Mike
          Last edited by vrand; 08-26-2011, 05:34 PM.

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          • #95
            Also when you mentioned bifilar coils this one from Don Smith referring to a coil that makes electric flux at one end and magnetic flux on the opposite coil end (coils wound CW & CCW from the center tap, only produces this).

            Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
            To create the 3rd dimensional field you have to create an ANTIPHASE in your coils in the case of for example the Muller motor/generator. Your electromagnets are wound from the center of your ferrite rod, two wires connected but wound in opposite directions and terminating at each end.

            This will create the 3rd field which is a vortex field and NOTHING ELSE, from this you can design your motor/generator. You will have zero Lenze effect and will only draw current for the driving circuit alone. It is ALL in winding the coils in ANTIPHASE to create a unique vortex field, I will leave the rest of the design of the motor/generator up to you, I will probably get shot for what I have told you.

            Mike
            Is the below photo what you where talking about above?

            Don says it the magnet flux end that is where one gets the amps from his free energy devices.



            Cheers Mike
            Last edited by vrand; 08-26-2011, 06:21 PM.

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            • #96
              Hey vrand,
              there is magnetic flux in both coils at both ends as well as inbetween them except for the neutral zone in the middle. The magnetic field vectors of both coils are in opposite directions in regards to each other.
              Smith was of the opinion that there will also be opposite electron spin.
              The notion to "get amps" from one end is most likely taken from transmission line theory
              where under certain wave length ratios you would find current nodes and voltage nodes at predictable
              positions of the transmission line depending on how they are terminated/impedance matched.
              Last edited by Xenomorph; 08-26-2011, 11:27 PM.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                Hey vrand,
                there is magnetic flux in both coils at both ends as well as inbetween them except for the neutral zone in the middle. The magnetic field vectors of both coils are in opposite directions in regards to each other.
                Smith was of the opinion that there will also be opposite electron spin.
                The notion to "get amps" from one end is most likely taken from transmission line theory
                where under certain wave length ratios you would find current nodes and voltage nodes at predictable
                positions of the transmission line depending on how they are terminated/impedance matched.
                Hi Xeno
                That center tapped bifilar coil arrangement looked like what Mike was describing in his message above.



                To create the 3rd dimensional field you have to create an ANTIPHASE in your coils in the case of for example the Muller motor/generator. Your electromagnets are wound from the center of your ferrite rod, two wires connected but wound in opposite directions and terminating at each end.
                Later in the thread Mike showed another coil arrangement.



                The original coil arrangement for the EH/HZ design is shown in on the EH website pdf documents.

                EH Antenna Systems



                Right now I am trying to determine which coil arrangement works to generate free energy so I can try it out.

                Cheers Mike

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                • #98
                  @Vrand: Michael Nunnerley described the bucking coil configuration.
                  It certainly DOES create antiphase signals, but there is still 2 opposing magnetic fields.
                  The second illustration of the (rectified) caduceus coil will in my understanding not allow magnetic fields to be created due to the close windings. It also creates antiphase signals. It is supposed to create a rather capacitive effect.

                  Michael Nunnerly is probably the best person to point out to you the best arrangement that creates the 3 dimensional field effect he presents with this thread.
                  In my personal opinion, any coil is capable of creating free energy.
                  It is about the design of the secondary circuit, that allows you to make use of it.
                  Last edited by Xenomorph; 08-27-2011, 02:32 AM.

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                  • #99
                    Hi Xeno

                    What I found interesting with the EH Antenna design was the resonant circuits using conventional AC waveforms to generate their HZ magnetic longitudinal wave.

                    What Eric Dollard found that in order to create Tesla's longitudinal electricity that impulse waveforms were needed in Tesla's spiral formed resonant coils circuits. Impulse waveforms were generated by spark gaps or other negative resistors like hydrogen thyratron's (Dollard used the Western Electric 1B22).

                    This EH design does away with the spark gap altogether!

                    So what can one do with this new HZ vector that "represents a magnetic component due to ROTARY movement of an electric charge" besides using it as an AM antenna?



                    Can we somehow extract free energy from the "ambient environment" with this HZ design, as Don Smith says can be done with his devices? No one has yet replicated the Tariel Kapanadze's generator design which was based on Tesla's inventions.

                    Tesla's longitudinal electricity has been around for over 100 years yet we still have not found a way (except Don Smith and Tariel Kapanadze) to tap the clean renewable unlimited energy all around us in space.

                    Cheers Mike
                    Last edited by vrand; 08-27-2011, 03:55 AM.

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                    • Excess energy is there all the time.
                      Just look at the heavyside component even in a straight wire.
                      You can "extract" excess energy with a simple coil with the right set-up already.
                      The "EH antenna" concept used in a generator looks promising at first sight because it looks like it is not reflecting back to the source, which is a condition for getting excess energy out.
                      What i find problematic is that a rotating magnet does not cause magnetic waves by itself , but rather a torsional field. So the "antenna" concept might not apply for the generator.

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                      • Originally posted by Xenomorph View Post
                        Excess energy is there all the time.
                        Just look at the heavyside component even in a straight wire.
                        You can "extract" excess energy with a simple coil with the right set-up already.
                        The "EH antenna" concept used in a generator looks promising at first sight because it looks like it is not reflecting back to the source, which is a condition for getting excess energy out.
                        What i find problematic is that a rotating magnet does not cause magnetic waves by itself , but rather a torsional field. So the "antenna" concept might not apply for the generator.
                        What is this?

                        Centraflow - oaugdp3 - PhotoShack.com - Photos Live Here.

                        Forget the antenna use, this is a coil wound as I have been trying to explain, what you see is a dialectric barrier discharge. It could have been two plates with a dialectric in between those plates "yes a capacitor". This field you do not normally see, this photo was taken with a long exposure in a dark room.

                        Now what if we do not QUITE reach the discharge point when it is charged, but when a magnetic field passes by it generates just sufficient extra charge to take it over the top, and it discharges.

                        Now think about it, we charge it up and it pushes the magnet away "rotor", the secound magnet passes and charges it over the top to a discharge "generator". what you have to work out is how you time this with powering and extracting all from the same coils.

                        By the way the photo is borrowed from J L Naudin

                        Think about

                        Shorting coils
                        Loads
                        DC to DC converters
                        Half wave rectification
                        Capacitor break down "small capacitance"

                        Mike

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                        • Marcus HOLLINGSHEAD

                          Anti-Gravity System

                          Marcus Hollingshead

                          The configuration of the devices #161 and #162 (generically known to Hollingshead as "bob") was six rings arranged in three pairs, each interlinked pair slightly offset from each other and centered around one of three axes: X, Y or Z. The rings in each pair were counter-rotated at 4200 rpm. Rings were wound with wire in a bifilar/caduceus manner. Twelve stubs, coil-wound short lengths of rods with flat points, were attached to the inner circumference of each ring and pointed inward.
                          Hollingshead posted that if all the rings are powered and spun in balance there is no net movement of the device. However, a spherical field would form around it, noticeably darkening and blurring the contained zone to a point where the RP is no longer distinguishable and producing a shell coronal effect (purple/violet) in the dark (nazi bell) . This field was one of the first non-propulsive "HAFF" fields produced by the device. It has been suggested but not verified that the acronym HAFF may stand for Hollingshead Anomalous Force Fields, of which Hollingshead reports there are seven.
                          Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                          • Great read I especially liked this quote,

                            There are some things that you have to keep an eye out for, such as icing up of the rp - but I hope to correct that by heating the outer shell as per a suggestion by Colin.

                            This is what we have to find when we do find it, it will power itself.
                            Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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                            • so you have solid rings that create a a spherical field

                              what if i told you this is what happens inside the Tesla copper egg with the crystal inside (see http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...gnetism-9.html )

                              a spinning solid sphere that creates the emf rings

                              a 2d version

                              Last edited by MonsieurM; 08-30-2011, 01:35 AM.
                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
                                so you have solid rings that create a a spherical field

                                what if i told you this is what happens inside the Tesla copper egg with the crystal inside (see http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...gnetism-9.html )

                                a spinning solid sphere that creates the emf rings

                                a 2d version

                                Could be you just have to figure out how to pull energy from the system unless it lifts off


                                Half of the Answer is knowing the right Question

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