The solar flashlight & muller/romero

[142857]

Here is some food for thought.

Say i take one condition and add it to another condition to get a third condition.

That can be 1+1=3 Cheers

In my thought process this isn't quite right....

your example should still be 1+2=3

1 condition + 1 condition? are they the same condition? A condition called 1 should be differentiated from another condition and would require a dif name/number if you add the same condition to the same condition 1+1=more of 1

1 condition added to the 2 condition will equal a 3 condition.

in fact condition A + condition B could = condition C

Still condition A + condition A only = condition A




Disclaimer:
I'm not arguing though, I know exactly what you are saying.

[MonsieurM]

"Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed"

Antoine Lavoisier


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[142857]

Antoine Lavoisier


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that's what I keep saying

thank you monsieur

[MonsieurM]

Nature is an efficient Engineer, you are most welcome

we are part of nature

@142857

sorry to include this in this thread, but there is a nice discussion taking place over at http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tic-field.html , i would really like to have your input on (with your perspective, i think you could bring some good insight )

[142857]

Quantum space INPUTS energy into OU systems (It has an enormous energy value, enough to power the universe). As long as you EXCLUDE it, you will have to conclude that energy got created instead of transformed.

Let that sink a bit.

OK....say I build a machine....a small spinny wheel. I hook some batteries up to it and take it out into the yard...it spins.

Now I've totally excluded the potential energy of the sun....even though this machine is bathed in it. I can run this little booger forever like that....or...I could include a receptor for that additional energy....ie solar cell.

Now my little motor can sit out there and transform that energy into somthing else useable and I can throw out my batteries.


Now replace the suns energy in said example with all that energy in the quantum foam that we are all apparently surrounded with(we can go inside now )

ok... I want to do the same thing I did with the sun with the energy in tha aether.


It seems to me that a major component is missing ..... where is the "aether panel" that collects this energy and transforms it?

In the sun I use the solar panel.....in the quantum foam what do I use?

Do I suppose that if i spin it faster that this etherial energy will somehow just find it's way into my machine?

Where is the receptor?

I imagine a sort of antenna/bristly brush or crystal lattice of some sort...

..perhaps the ringing coil is it.....

I think till we figure out how to access and use it we have to EXCLUDE it from our figures.

[142857]

Nature is an efficient Engineer, you are most welcome

we are part of nature

@142857

sorry to include this in this thread, but there is a nice discussion taking place over at http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tic-field.html , i would really like to have your input on (with your perspective, i think you could bring some good insight )

Lemme read a little and get my head around it all and I'll be glad to chime in.




edit:
whew....I may be too stupid for that thread.

So far what I gather is that me nunnerly claims to know the tech it would take to really build a self running motor...he's the only one who knows it...and he's been too busy to develop it.

lemmie keep reading.

[MonsieurM]

Lemme read a little and get my head around it all and I'll be glad to chime in.




edit:
whew....I may be too stupid for that thread.

So far what I gather is that me nunnerly claims to know the tech it would take to really build a self running motor...he's the only one who knows it...and he's been too busy to develop it.

lemmie keep reading.

don't give up, sometimes changing perspectives helps

[MonsieurM]

@142857

not sure you read this, but i think you might enjoy it:

Randall Cole Roffe: Harmonic Resonance

[Matthew Jones]

Maybe you will mind your manners in public and not rant on everything in existence that is wrong according to YOUR science.

Can potential grow through resistance? OR.... Can resistance reguage/ transform the potential to HIGHER potential on a wire or from a power source?

Your Ball now...
Matt

Make sure you read again I edited...

[142857]

Maybe you will mind your manners in public and not rant on everything in existence that is wrong according to YOUR science.

Can potential grow through resistance? OR.... Can resistance reguage/ transform the potential to HIGHER potential on a wire or from a power source?

Your Ball now...
Matt

Make sure you read again I edited...

potential can grow through resistance...

hmmn that's sort of a tough one.
lets see,

Lets do a trap door that opens downward like a gallows.
If I raise the door...it has potential to fall.....if i prop a stick under it(resistance) ....potential did not increase

how about a swinging door with a peg for a catch. If I lean on it it has potential to swing open when you pull the peg...does the energy potential increase if you lean on the other side? not eacatly.

Now the peg is the inital resistance...say it takes 40 lbs of force to break the peg. (easier to see the potential that way)
Now increase the strength of the peg till it takes 100lbs to snap it.
I can now lean harder, the door now seemingly has more potential. But that's not really the case is it?

so no, not really.

reguaging is like bedini mysticism.

raising potential via resistance is an illusion.


sry matt, I missed this post before I PM'd you ................. you already made it clear that i was stupid so I guess it's to be expected eh.

and in responce to your PM reply....yes...you did say that your magnetic track could CREATE energy....you do it all the time

[142857]

nobody gonna contest that ? Nobody has a waterhose analogy or anything?
matt?

[boguslaw]

nobody gonna contest that ? Nobody has a waterhose analogy or anything?
matt?

what do you expect ? AC power grid is like a waterhose connected to the faucet, you turn on power and water pressure force water outside.Let imagine water is coming through a rotating wheel accomodated inside waterhose and mechanical force is attached to the shaft of wheel.
Nothing uncommon so far. Then imagine you are Steven Mark and want to do the same without connection to the faucet.
Take elastic waterhose, make a ring with wheel device still in place, fill with water. Take two fingers , squeeze waterhose and slide over hose . You have pushed water inside in one direction and wheel rotated a bit. Repeat it 5000 times per second along the length of hose.Congratulations, you have invented free energy waterhose. Do you see where I used resistance to push current ? Still I consider it being very inefficient device.

[142857]

what do you expect ? AC power grid is like a waterhose connected to the faucet, you turn on power and water pressure force water outside.Let imagine water is coming through a rotating wheel accomodated inside waterhose and mechanical force is attached to the shaft of wheel.
Nothing uncommon so far. Then imagine you are Steven Mark and want to do the same without connection to the faucet.
Take elastic waterhose, make a ring with wheel device still in place, fill with water. Take two fingers , squeeze waterhose and slide over hose . You have pushed water inside in one direction and wheel rotated a bit. Repeat it 5000 times per second along the length of hose.Congratulations, you have invented free energy waterhose. Do you see where I used resistance to push current ? Still I consider it being very inefficient device.

That's not resistance that's force, yes resistance is involved, but you pushed it...that's a you-energy waterhose.

How bout a real example ..... not a hypothetical.

reguardless of what we want to believe, all energy adhears to the same laws, at least the evidence would suggest so.

with that in mind, a real world example of resistance increasing potential?

I'm not saying that I KNOW THIS TO BE IMPOSSIBLE, I'm saying that I don't believe it is.

matt?

[Shadesz]

*thinks of the moment when the world catches on to overunity*

And the naysayers are gonna be like...

[Farmhand]

I'll throw in my 2 cents here again, I think for potential to grow through a resistance the resistance would need to be a negative resistance, however I don't understand the term "negative resistance" in my opinion negative resistance is force. But what do I know, as far as I'm concerned resistance opposes force. Anything on the other side of zero resistance must be force surely.

I also must give an update to my post above and admit that I found the cause to the continued output from my converter. It was picking up "noise" from a commercial inverter running from one of the batteries on the trolley, I found that it starts to affect my setup when the battery the inverter is running from is closer than 2 feet or so from the other batteries, it must be a capacitive thing. Curious but not really useful or free. Not to worry I don't mind to look like a fool as long as I get to the bottom of the matter. Now I know it happens and so does anyone else who reads this. The way I fixed it was to ground the negative of the inverter to a ground stake.

I was a bit annoyed to be distracted by it but I'll get over it. Something to watch out for and probably a similar noise is where a lot of these effects are born, at least I admit my folly. There must be so many sources of noise that anything that is putting out energy with no apparent input should be investigated through a process of elimination to rule out noise as the source of the energy.

I imagine the noise pushed backwards through the negative of the coil and through the internal diode in the mosfet switch to excite the coils open ended. And the coupling was capacitive between the batteries.

Cheers