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  • #16
    Hi folks, hi toranarod, you make good points.
    One common denominator i see is money itself.
    Money is an idea born from the thinking of control and control is based in fear.
    This fear of not having control, can cause greed and lower primal behaviors, which usually don't include sharing freely, though some still do.
    For sure an excess energy device was and is needed to power our stuff, though it is only one aspect of what needs to change.
    Yes you've got the right idea, you see how this idea of false ownership causes imbalance.
    Heck most people believe they own their houses, stop paying property tax and the truth emerges.
    If we look at this as if we're from another planet, imagine seeing people thinking they can own land and that includes everyone. I don't see people claiming they own the sky, though the false governments sure want us to believe they do, lol.
    The whole commerce game is at the root of this insanity.
    Also, I'm not sure what so called laws you are referring to, though I will guess you mean the corporate legal system of statutes and codes.
    That is not the law in any shape or form, the true law in most lands is called common law, which basically says, do not harm anothers so called property, or physical body and do not in any way limit the use or movement of so called property or physical body.
    Pretty simple and this other fake corporate law was created to usurp the true law of the land, so you will not have to break any laws that I can foresee, lol.
    So we can see right off the bat, that claiming ones property is being harmed by copying software or dvds is quite ludicrous. If I make a program and put it on a disk, that's my so called property, how could i claim copies of it are mine, quite illogical.
    That would be like someone selling an apple seed to me and claiming any seeds obtained from the apple are theirs as well, quite ludicrous.

    And lastly, everything related to our basic needs has been suppressed in one way or another to keep us slaves to their money machine, they meaning a relative few who hide behind the scenes manipulating and think that this will never change. You are correct, it is in process of changing as we speak. Peace, love and abundance to all life.
    peace love light
    tyson

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    • #17
      Thank you for your discussion guys. A complete and free disclosure is looking like a smart path. Now, assume you do release this OU device freely, and by freely I mean more freely than Bill seems to be doing. No patents, no desire to gain financially or publicly from it, pure open source. All concepts, plans, building lists, blueprints, processes, everything given freely to the public.

      What do you think this will do to the stock market? How many days or hours do you think it would take to do that? What threats do you think that will pose to you? How can you prepare to handle those threats?

      Are you prepared to take the risk? I believe the world deserves freedom. True freedom. Freedom from capital control, freedom from suppression, freedom from fear of their government (the government is supposed to fear them, not the other way around).

      I hope that someone out there has the humility and moral motives required to take the risk so the world may be free. I believe there is someone out there that will. I believe there is someone out there that actually has the potential to pull it off. I believe that the control is going to flip sooner than later. I think things are happening for a reason. I believe we will get there soon!

      Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own, instead of someone else's ~BW~ It's kind of fun to do the impossible ~WD~ From now on, I'll connect the dots my own way ~BW~ If I shall be like him, who shall be like me? ~LR~ Had I not created my whole world, I would certainly have died in other people’s ~AN~

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      • #18
        Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
        That would be like someone selling an apple seed to me and claiming any seeds obtained from the apple are theirs as well, quite ludicrous.
        And yet:

        Patented Apple Varieties

        However, apples of a specific variety are not propagated by seed but from cutting, grafting or tissue culture.

        Now, as I understand it, individual genes can be patented.

        An organic farmer was sued in at least one case because the genes from some genetically engineered and patented corn drifted into his cornfield. If you can believe that.

        If not read this:

        Monsanto vs. US Farmers

        Sued because pollen from someone else's patented variety of vegetable drifts into your farm or garden ? Think it can't happen ? Think again.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tom Booth View Post
          And yet:

          Patented Apple Varieties

          However, apples of a specific variety are not propagated by seed but from cutting, grafting or tissue culture.

          Now, as I understand it, individual genes can be patented.

          An organic farmer was sued in at least one case because the genes from some genetically engineered and patented corn drifted into his cornfield. If you can believe that.

          If not read this:

          Monsanto vs. US Farmers

          Sued because pollen from someone else's patented variety of vegetable drifts into your farm or garden ? Think it can't happen ? Think again.
          A clear case of Big Seed lining the pockets of the lawmakers to make unjust Laws and from most peoples point of view "illegal laws". If that is possible.

          The farmers are going to court to appeal to the same group of people Big Seed are paying to make and enforce the illegal laws.

          The only way to fix the problem is to dismiss all the corrupt politicans. And make it a hanging offence for politicians to take money from Corp's or donations of any kind, and also a hanging offence for offering money to politicians.

          Honetly how can we expect to get laws we think are fair when the lawmakers are bribed continuously not to do that. We need to fix the system not complain to it.

          That's like complaining to the executioner that the king made a mistake ordering his death and could he please rethink his deciscion.

          They will just pay the judge or threaten the jury or the complaintants.

          System is sick with parasite's and we ask the head parasite to stop infecting the system ? Either kill the system or the parasite, no medicine is strong enough to work.

          Cheers

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          • #20
            Originally posted by FRC View Post
            I think you have it backwards. The article states "steady output with no input."

            This would be something if its real.


            FRC
            Could that really be possible to have a steady output without input?
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            • #21
              Most certainly Noel...
              Right now I have a device running, that has no conventional energy input and yet delivers a constant and reliable output. It could do so forever, quite feasibly.
              Also, no moving parts, nothing to wear out and the output itself is well within the stress levels of anything it comprises of.
              What is it ?
              Is it real ?

              What it is, is a device to deliver light, from nothing.
              OK...
              It's a white LED. One leg is connected to an Earth Ground buried outside the window, the other leg runs to a big chunk of metal (a disconnected PC power supply).
              The LED is on, the light is very low, but it's most certainly on. If I touch the PC power supply the light gets twice as bright.
              But it's real, it's free energy

              Crummy pic of it below:

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
                Hi folks, hi toranarod, you make good points.
                One common denominator i see is money itself.
                Money is an idea born from the thinking of control and control is based in fear.
                This fear of not having control, can cause greed and lower primal behaviors, which usually don't include sharing freely, though some still do.
                For sure an excess energy device was and is needed to power our stuff, though it is only one aspect of what needs to change.
                Yes you've got the right idea, you see how this idea of false ownership causes imbalance.
                Heck most people believe they own their houses, stop paying property tax and the truth emerges.
                If we look at this as if we're from another planet, imagine seeing people thinking they can own land and that includes everyone. I don't see people claiming they own the sky, though the false governments sure want us to believe they do, lol.
                The whole commerce game is at the root of this insanity.
                Also, I'm not sure what so called laws you are referring to, though I will guess you mean the corporate legal system of statutes and codes.
                That is not the law in any shape or form, the true law in most lands is called common law, which basically says, do not harm anothers so called property, or physical body and do not in any way limit the use or movement of so called property or physical body.
                Pretty simple and this other fake corporate law was created to usurp the true law of the land, so you will not have to break any laws that I can foresee, lol.
                So we can see right off the bat, that claiming ones property is being harmed by copying software or dvds is quite ludicrous. If I make a program and put it on a disk, that's my so called property, how could i claim copies of it are mine, quite illogical.
                That would be like someone selling an apple seed to me and claiming any seeds obtained from the apple are theirs as well, quite ludicrous.

                And lastly, everything related to our basic needs has been suppressed in one way or another to keep us slaves to their money machine, they meaning a relative few who hide behind the scenes manipulating and think that this will never change. You are correct, it is in process of changing as we speak. Peace, love and abundance to all life.
                peace love light
                tyson
                Just a quick note. YES corporate law.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Shadesz View Post
                  Thank you for your discussion guys. A complete and free disclosure is looking like a smart path. Now, assume you do release this OU device freely, and by freely I mean more freely than Bill seems to be doing. No patents, no desire to gain financially or publicly from it, pure open source. All concepts, plans, building lists, blueprints, processes, everything given freely to the public.

                  What do you think this will do to the stock market? How many days or hours do you think it would take to do that? What threats do you think that will pose to you? How can you prepare to handle those threats?

                  Are you prepared to take the risk? I believe the world deserves freedom. True freedom. Freedom from capital control, freedom from suppression, freedom from fear of their government (the government is supposed to fear them, not the other way around).

                  I hope that someone out there has the humility and moral motives required to take the risk so the world may be free. I believe there is someone out there that will. I believe there is someone out there that actually has the potential to pull it off. I believe that the control is going to flip sooner than later. I think things are happening for a reason. I believe we will get there soon!

                  After reading your post I felt quite emotional. So beautifully said.

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                  • #24
                    Humanity tends to develop things very quickly when the need arises. Look at the World Wars for example. Things were not just developed, they were pushed out of the doors and into action as quickly as possible.

                    To link both the apparent energy crisis and Rod's excellent work - we are accelerating under load !

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                    • #25
                      What do you think this will do to the stock market?
                      I honestly dont care. The stock market is a gambling venue. I have no sympathy for any stockholder who loses money. If you lose money thats tough. Most who play the stock market have extra money to do so. Buggy whips and wagons took the fall,so the energy moguls can too! If your thinking jobs what jobs. These same people who control the stock market have outsourced jobs to slave labor. Just ONE of many is Levis. Cisco,Microsoft, (whose business practices I detest) and Intel are just a few more. Until corporate laws are changed they will continue to run amuck, Seriously how many billions do you need. There are 100 multi billionaires who control almost a trillion.
                      How many people live on this planet!

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                      • #26
                        create an instructable

                        create an instructable
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                        • #27
                          Hi Rod, Shadesz and ALL

                          brilliant work guys, have already started writing the production, very helpful guides and themes, i sincerley appreciate you guys taking the time to do this, it will inspire some and we only need one to make it over the line dont we

                          Ash

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                            Hi Rod, Shadesz and ALL

                            brilliant work guys, have already started writing the production, very helpful guides and themes, i sincerley appreciate you guys taking the time to do this, it will inspire some and we only need one to make it over the line dont we

                            Ash
                            This is still like sorcery.....

                            How to release an OU device to the world.
                            you need an ou device to release.
                            first.


                            Now lets assume for a moment that all you guys MIB fears are legitimate.
                            Firstly that suggests that the govt. is better at squelching this tech that they are at anything else.
                            Now, if they are....then we must assume that they keep an eye out in places just like this.
                            SO do they already know Rod will not attain a self running device traveling down the ave he is currently on. Or are they just waiting? Did they not have tabs on Romero? So, he really did it? they shut him down and they are patiently waiting to see if rod gets it too. That doesn't seem like a good way for such an obviously efficent agency to opperate.



                            I got news folks....if somebody invents/discovers a way to break the laws of physics....things will change. Or that somebody will die right then and there on the spot.

                            IF you had a device that could Create infinate energy with no input.
                            Do we really think it would be wise to show everybody how to do it? Really?

                            just for a moment...think of the weapons potential of a "free energy" device. You could be a world power.

                            If rod is successful and provides the nessicary info for the rest of us to replicate....well heck....I'm weaponizing mine nd receeding from this nation

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                            • #29
                              I once watched a news interview of a college student who was a victim of a college shooting. It made me cringe what he said. Something like..

                              "It was complete chaos. The shooter had all control. That was the scariest part. No one could do anything. That is why we need to do away with gun rights. So people like that can't take control."

                              UMMMMMM HELLLLLLLOOOOOOO bozo, if other people, sane people, were allowed to have guns on campus, there would have been no unbalance of power. The shooter couldn't have taken the control. The people would have control.

                              Wait, did you catch that. "The people would have control." Hmmm sounds like the original democracy to me.

                              "The people would have control." It has a nice ring to it.

                              "The people would have control."

                              The powers that be here in America tried to take our gun rights away and throw the scale of power even more in their favor. Now, they are scared of their loss of control over energy. And they should be.

                              What scares them the most? They wont be able to control us, the people, anymore. Democracy will be on its way back to the way it was designed to be. The people of the nation, having control of the nation.

                              "The people will have control"

                              Keep going guys. It's coming!

                              Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own, instead of someone else's ~BW~ It's kind of fun to do the impossible ~WD~ From now on, I'll connect the dots my own way ~BW~ If I shall be like him, who shall be like me? ~LR~ Had I not created my whole world, I would certainly have died in other people’s ~AN~

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Shadesz View Post
                                I once watched a news interview of a college student who was a victim of a college shooting. It made me cringe what he said. Something like..

                                "It was complete chaos. The shooter had all control. That was the scariest part. No one could do anything. That is why we need to do away with gun rights. So people like that can't take control."

                                UMMMMMM HELLLLLLLOOOOOOO bozo, if other people, sane people, were allowed to have guns on campus, there would have been no unbalance of power. The shooter couldn't have taken the control. The people would have control.

                                Wait, did you catch that. "The people would have control." Hmmm sounds like the original democracy to me.

                                "The people would have control." It has a nice ring to it.

                                "The people would have control."

                                The powers that be here in America tried to take our gun rights away and throw the scale of power even more in their favor. Now, they are scared of their loss of control over energy. And they should be.

                                What scares them the most? They wont be able to control us, the people, anymore. Democracy will be on its way back to the way it was designed to be. The people of the nation, having control of the nation.

                                "The people will have control"

                                Keep going guys. It's coming!

                                So your neighbor should be able to have a nuclear reactor if he wants?

                                I'm not for gun control by any means....but seriously....if EVERYBODY had a 9mm on their hip, would the crime rate go up or down? Murder? Shootings? Violence in geneneral?

                                What if the guy up the street installs surface to surface missles on his house.

                                I hate to break it to you, but if you broke the law and managed to create some energy, the weponary potential is limitless......Iron Man...

                                world power.

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