How to release an OU device to the world

[Shadesz]

So your neighbor should be able to have a nuclear reactor if he wants?

I'm not for gun control by any means....but seriously....if EVERYBODY had a 9mm on their hip, would the crime rate go up or down? Murder? Shootings? Violence in geneneral?

What if the guy up the street installs surface to surface missles on his house.

I hate to break it to you, but if you broke the law and managed to create some energy, the weponary potential is limitless......Iron Man...

world power.

You are missing the point here body. World power is what is in operation right now. If everyone had the power (pun intended), governments would be run by the people, as they are supposed to be, not by the select few with the power.

The fear tactic you are using is void. Control is only scary if it is had by one person (and you do not agree with that person). But, If everyone had energy, there would be less chance for bad people to get the control (the good ones would void their attempts).

Maybe that is what you are scared of? How much are they paying you anyway?

To prevent one branch from becoming supreme, protect the "opulent minority" from the majority, and to induce the branches to cooperate, government systems that employ a separation of powers need a way to balance each of the branches. Typically this was accomplished through a system of "checks and balances", the origin of which, like separation of powers itself, is specifically credited to Montesquieu. Checks and balances allow for a system based regulation that allows one branch to limit another, such as the power of Congress to alter the composition and jurisdiction of the federal courts.

Separation of powers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why so motivated anyway? We have you scared don't we? Yeah, even you know it's coming. Your time is better spent selling your energy stock now, than trying to persuade us to stop. Humanity deserves freedom!!!

But, I'm going to leave it at that. The point of this thread is to talk about a way to release an OU device to the world, and continued discussion with you will only distract from that.

[142857]

You are missing the point here body. World power is what is in operation right now. If everyone had the power (pun intended), governments would be run by the people, as they are supposed to be, not by the select few with the power.

The fear tactic you are using is void. Control is only scary if it is had by one person (and you do not agree with that person). But, If everyone had energy, there would be less chance for bad people to get the control (the good ones would void their attempts).

Maybe that is what you are scared of? How much are they paying you anyway?


Separation of powers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why so motivated anyway? We have you scared don't we? Yeah, even you know it's coming. Your time is better spent selling your energy stock now, than trying to persuade us to stop. Humanity deserves freedom!!!

But, I'm going to leave it at that. The point of this thread is to talk about a way to release an OU device to the world, and continued discussion with you will only distract from that.

The people don't want the power...buddy....that's how this system got this way in the first place....the complaciency of human nature.

There is no fear tactic....only the truth.....people don't want to be in control.
and most people don't have the mental capacity to do a responsible job if they did find themselves in control.


Reguardless wether you believe legends spun by bedinis and the like in the past....nobody ever made a self runner and later acted nonchalant about it.

It would only be the BIGGEST DISCOVERY of of human kind. And yes it would have some potentially dangerous possibilities due to the infamous side effects of the human condition.....more so if anybody could do it.

Why is JB even still alive? He work out a deal with MIB?

lemmie be clear, you do think the world would be less scary if everybody had a gun on their hip?

oh yeah,
they pay me millions...

I wanna be Tommy Lee Jones, not the Fresh Prince.

[quantumuppercut]

I hate to break it to you, but if you broke the law and managed to create some energy, the weponary potential is limitless......Iron Man...

I think worry about weapon potential of free energy is over dramatic. Yes, Iron Man is a badazz, but there also T2(terminator 2 lol) . And if you watched T, he has a mini nuke reactor inside his body for energy. There's really no need for free energy to weaponized something.

The whole purpose of a weapon is energy released per time and energy density. Energy density describe how compact you can store energy per unit volume and power describe how fast you can release that amount of energy. So in order to create a free energy weapon, 2 criteria above must beat a nuke weapon else no terrorist wanna buy it. Are you storing energy from the FE device in a supercap? If so, how many farad it has to be? Are you creating a run away condition that multiply energy? If so, you think it can beat a Uranium chain reaction?

It is just cheaper to go with nuke. lol

[142857]

I think worry about weapon potential of free energy is over dramatic. Yes, Iron Man is a badazz, but there also T2(terminator 2 lol) . And if you watched T, he has a mini nuke reactor inside his body for energy. There's really no need for free energy to weaponized something.

The whole purpose of a weapon is energy released per time and energy density. Energy density describe how compact you can store energy per unit volume and power describe how fast you can release that amount of energy. So in order to create a free energy weapon, 2 criteria above must beat a nuke weapon else no terrorist wanna buy it. Are you storing energy from the FE device in a supercap? If so, how many farad it has to be? Are you creating a run away condition that multiply energy? If so, you think it can beat a Uranium chain reaction?

It is just cheaper to go with nuke. lol

All good points as to why you and i aren't allowed to have nukes.

ok....if you tap into the echo of the big bang and light up a lamp through a weird resonant coil, that's a pretty good deal, safe bet, everybody should have one(they still just wanna buy it though...they don't wanna make it.) However if you can manage a way to CREATE energy from nadda....that has exponential consequences. To think otherwise is shortsighted...

what if your illustrious govt. was able to power it's vehicles without fossil fule?
Tanks whose very movement could provide an excess of power?
If someone today made a muller truly "self run"....where would/could that really go?

since we think the oil co/govt has been squashing this for so long, doesn't it stand to reason that "they" already have prototypes of all the ones that actually worked.....they just waiting till the oil runs out? Do you really think powerful people could just sit on that kind of potential power?

Talk about raising potential through resistance.

I'd have to guess that a logical look at all the evidence would suggest that mankind hasn't ever cracked that particular nut.

[RAMSET]

OU .com ??

Speaking of TPTB and supressiion
any body else having trouble getting onto OU.Com??

East coast USA and a friend in UK having no luck all day??

Any body else??
Chet

[Shadesz]

Speaking of TPTB and supressiion
any body else having trouble getting onto OU.Com??

East coast USA and a friend in UK having no luck all day??

Any body else??
Chet

It went down for me about 30 minutes yesterday. Intermountain USA.

Edit: OU is down for me today. This forum was the one down for me yesterday. hmmmm makes one wonder.

[Shadesz]

All good points as to why you and i aren't allowed to have nukes.

ok....if you tap into the echo of the big bang and light up a lamp through a weird resonant coil, that's a pretty good deal, safe bet, everybody should have one(they still just wanna buy it though...they don't wanna make it.) However if you can manage a way to CREATE energy from nadda....that has exponential consequences. To think otherwise is shortsighted...

what if your illustrious govt. was able to power it's vehicles without fossil fule?
Tanks whose very movement could provide an excess of power?
If someone today made a muller truly "self run"....where would/could that really go?

since we think the oil co/govt has been squashing this for so long, doesn't it stand to reason that "they" already have prototypes of all the ones that actually worked.....they just waiting till the oil runs out? Do you really think powerful people could just sit on that kind of potential power?

Talk about raising potential through resistance.

I'd have to guess that a logical look at all the evidence would suggest that mankind hasn't ever cracked that particular nut.

I'll bite just one more time. Your not helping your case here. Again, the only problem with someone having a powerful weapon, is if theirs is more powerful than yours. Open source and free energy gives everyone the chance for the same size weapon.

(But what about them developing a 10 watt generator into an entire army using the opensource knowledge?) Then I hope you did the same.

King of the hill isn't about pulling the others down, it's about being the first on top.

Yes... I do believe that society would be a more safe place if every responsible citizen carried a gun on their hip!

[142857]

I'll bite just one more time. Your not helping your case here. Again, the only problem with someone having a powerful weapon, is if theirs is more powerful than yours. Open source and free energy gives everyone the chance for the same size weapon.

(But what about them developing a 10 watt generator into an entire army using the opensource knowledge?) Then I hope you did your due diligence and developed the technology yourself.

Yes... I do believe that society would be a more safe place if every responsible citizen carried a gun on their hip!

So you are a proponent of mutually assured destruction...nice way to live.

Unfortunately, REAL power is calculated in MONEY. If we all could do it....we still couldn't do it on the scale of the the truly powerful.

And I still think you guys are underselling the potential of the idea of CREATING energy.

If I could actually CREATE the smallest ammount the implications would be exponential.

Seriously, think about it.

Think about all the things we've been able to do by harnessing various forms of energy....what if we could MAKE it from NOTHING?


Think about this, we have the atom....Nuclear power is awesome.....take greed and profit out of the picture, overbuild your reactors to withstand anything imaginable and responsibly discard or productively use the waste.(launch it at the sun er whatever)
Now humanity really doesn't have an actual energy problem.

If humanity wasn't subject to human nature and could keep everyones best interest in front of privatel interest....we could have long since beat the "energy crisis". Unfortunately, everybody just can't be trusted to do the right thing with a reactor.

Now hypothetically say you take all this muller stuff and invent the most efficent windmill the world has ever seen....you can mount an 8' version on a house in moderately windy conditions and somehow still generate 80% of domestic ele.
OK, obviously everybody should have one of these on their home right? Oil companies ain't going to like that and you may could feel some suppressive forces at wk. Say you overcome it. And give it away to the world. Is everybody going to make one?
More likely, since you gave it away...the people who already have the power/money will exploit it and evetually pipe it right back down the same lines at an inflated price. Like they do in TX with the windmills they already have.
You could probably sell various models and a few kits.

ok, forget that.
say we never discovered anything new and were restricted to the science we know and the systems we already have.
There are litterly thousands upon thousands of alternative methods of generating energy and reducing fossil fule dependancy. Why don't we do that? Control.
While there are those of us, most ppl here, that do not want to be controlled. The greater portion of the population is content to eat what they are fed.

None of the potential energy soultions possible at the moment, while more than sufficient if used "properly" , even comes close to the same magnitude of discussion as the CREATION of energy.

And the ability to CREATE combined with the nature of humanity has just as many possible dire consequences as it has potential for "good"

Just like Nukes. Only better/worse.

[Farmhand]

I thought we all were fully aware that energy cannot be "CREATED", the way I see it is energy = mass they are interchangeable. This should be common knowledge and as so if it is dangerous we should already see some effects of it.

Is this you're concern that we will discover a way to convert mass to energy easily.

Mass
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1858&sc=photos

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1811&sc=photos

Ionization
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1893&sc=photos

Basis of the Atom.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1887&sc=photos

Energy and inertia
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1292&sc=photos

You see everything is energy originally and something cannot be created from nothing.

The "big bang" if there was one, was only the begining of a cycle, everything is eternal. Do not worry.

It is starting from real knowledge, like I believe Walters work contain's, that will lead us to the ability to traverse the cosmos.
However it is fairly easy to see how totally devastating weapons could be devised using this type of knowlegdge, if it is actual or fact.
I think it is aready conceived, devised and has been implemented for a time now already. And I think we should be aware of the possibilities for good mainly.
The possibilities for bad have probably already been explored.
In fact I have no doubt about it. I don't see a problem, none of us will build a directed energy weapon. I won't, I promise. Honest !

Cheers

[142857]

I thought we all were fully aware that energy cannot be "CREATED", the way I see it is energy = mass they are interchangeable. This should be common knowledge and as so if it is dangerous we should already see some effects of it.

Is this you're concern that we will discover a way to convert mass to energy easily.

Mass
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1858&sc=photos

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1811&sc=photos

Ionization
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1893&sc=photos

Basis of the Atom.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1887&sc=photos

Energy and inertia
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=32a91...1292&sc=photos

You see everything is energy originally and something cannot be created from nothing.

The "big bang" if there was one, was only the begining of a cycle, everything is eternal. Do not worry.

It is starting from real knowledge, like I believe Walters work contain's, that will lead us to the ability to traverse the cosmos.
However it is fairly easy to see how totally devastating weapons could be devised using this type of knowlegdge, if it is actual or fact.
I think it is aready conceived, devised and has been implemented for a time now already. And I think we should be aware of the possibilities for good mainly.
The possibilities for bad have probably already been explored.
In fact I have no doubt about it. I don't see a problem, none of us will build a directed energy weapon. I won't, I promise. Honest !

Cheers

I'm aware that we can't CREATE energy.

Lets take the muller and my original question. Where is the energy it's going to selfrun off of going to come from?

If it or any other selfrunner were to really work it would have to MAKE the extra.......should be nuff said.

Now if you somehow tap the aether to make up the difference that's not really a self runner is it? No more so than a mendo motor or a solar bedini.

Again I'll say, if that's the aim, tapping into the energy of the quantum foam. We are still missing the boat as we have no receptor. You can't get solar power without a collection system. You are just as likely not to collect quantum energy without a collector.

Magnets and coils are cool, almost amazing....lets think of the history...as long as we've been making and experimenting with ele we've been making different combinations of coils and cores, coils on coils in, maybe not every concieveable config, but nearly. Not a one of those has accidently come to life with quantum energy.

So again, if I build the most efficient spinny moto/gen ever concieved...how is it ever gonna self run if it doesn't somehow MAKE some energy?

Maybe I find the harmonic balance of the universe and it resonates in freq with the whole of existance....that'll be neat.

If you could make a magnet wheel spin under it's own power...you would indeed be making energy from nothing.


PS @farmhand....na, i'm not really worried about anything per say, or everything, i guess my priamary point was the pesky physics law that seems to so often get ignored.
mainley because the only things that seem to spark mass replication in here come with the promise of being a self runner......

[quantumuppercut]

I just shorted out a few main concerns of yours.

1/ Where does the energy coming from
2/ This whole free energy thing is too ideal for human nature

Well, I would say that the energy comes from the echo of the Big Bang for simplicity. I know the concern you would have is "solar energy require solar panel, big bang energy require what?". My answer would be... coil and magnet. lol Actually, you're right. Magnets don't create energy, neither does silicon. It's how we use it. How? We're still working on it. Maybe spin it faster.

The second concern seems more important. How can human handle something... free. lol We'll have to learn how to live honest and share our resources. Perpetual motion represent eternal life, so if you're ready for eternal life, perpetual motion shall come. At this point in history, there's only one way to go forward...share resources or perish.

[142857]

now were getting somewhere. Like a real conversation.

OK, here we go:
We can already freely and effictively tap into the more obvious energies around us, wind,solar,hydro. These have not solved our energy problem.

So begs the question, why would another tap into another energy be different?

Also, what leads us to believe that there would be a substantial energy to be gained by tapping the echo of the big bang? We are talking about the most infintismal energy we can even detect. I mean, I can walk outside and physically feel the wind and the sun, I can stand in a stream and feel that energy too. I have to have some hella equip to even hypothosize about this otherwise undetectable energy. What leads us to believe that we could get more from their than from the sun.....there probably is more there, unfortunately it's spread out all over creation.

Would it be cool, absolutely, would it change the world...doubtful.

Also, a device that runs off of the vibrations of the universe is again no more "OU" than a solar pendulum Solar pendulum | accomplished or the hoover dam for that matter.

I'm also going to have to stick it out for a collector/receptor. I truly believe(my opinion) that no matter how fast you spin some magnets over any number of coils, the energy of the universe is not going to just jump into your machine.

[Shadesz]

Interesting development regarding Bill's release. As of right now he has decided to keep the idea for himself. It may be due to many different reasons. Regardless of the reasoning I found it very interesting. As you read that thread you find a kind of caustic tone from a lot of the people that are supposed to be for free energy. It could just be the dynamics of that forum over there. It could be that other people want the prize money from that contest, and the fame of being the first. Or it could be Bill's reputation in the past. But, I think we shouldn't rule out the idea that one of the things discourage free energy is the free energy community itself.

It is kind of sad to see how badly that thread reminded me of crabs in a bucket. Whether in the community or not, people are gonna be quick to discredit and challenge the idea of real free energy.

Knowing that, I think it is important to line your ducks in a row BEFORE you make any claims about free energy. So ironically, IMO it is smart that once you have your priorities planted firmly in the ground, and you have a working unit, you should go silent about the unit. Like the teacher in the video (did you notice he only had one arm btw?) said, "You have to separate yourself from the people with the lower level of thinking. And get strong. Then when you are strong enough, you can pull some of them out of the bucket.

IE, you have to separate yourself from people that don't know free energy is real yet (in and out of the free energy community). Then you get strong. You develop the idea, the science, the engineering. You prepare a strong release without people even knowing you are doing so. Then, once strong enough, you give it to the world. The great thing is, like the professor said... you will be able to help others climb out of the bucket at that time.

[Farmhand]

Interesting development regarding Bill's release. As of right now he has decided to keep the idea for himself. It may be due to many different reasons. Regardless of the reasoning I found it very interesting. As you read that thread you find a kind of caustic tone from a lot of the people that are supposed to be for free energy. It could just be the dynamics of that forum over there. It could be that other people want the prize money from that contest, and the fame of being the first. Or it could be Bill's reputation in the past. But, I think we shouldn't rule out the idea that one of the things discourage free energy is the free energy community itself.

It is kind of sad to see how badly that thread reminded me of crabs in a bucket. Whether in the community or not, people are gonna be quick to discredit and challenge the idea of real free energy.

Knowing that, I think it is important to line your ducks in a row BEFORE you make any claims about free energy. So ironically, IMO it is smart that once you have your priorities planted firmly in the ground, and you have a working unit, you should go silent about the unit. Like the teacher in the video (did you notice he only had one arm btw?) said, "You have to separate yourself from the people with the lower level of thinking. And get strong. Then when you are strong enough, you can pull some of them out of the bucket.

IE, you have to separate yourself from people that don't know free energy is real yet (in and out of the free energy community). Then you get strong. You develop the idea, the science, the engineering. You prepare a strong release without people even knowing you are doing so. Then, once strong enough, you give it to the world. The great thing is, like the professor said... you will be able to help others climb out of the bucket at that time.

This comes to mind.
Yoda on Fear and the darkside - YouTube

[Shadesz]

Getting somewhere in conversation?!?! Are you crazy? All I see is a pathetic waste of human energy and brain power that is contradicting itself...

I got news folks....if somebody invents/discovers a way to break the laws of physics....things will change.

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IF you had a device that could Create infinate energy with no input.
Do we really think it would be wise to show everybody how to do it? Really?

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just for a moment...think of the weapons potential of a "free energy" device. You could be a world power.


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If rod is successful and provides the nessicary info for the rest of us to replicate....well heck....I'm weaponizing mine nd receeding from this nation

So your neighbor should be able to have a nuclear reactor if he wants?

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I hate to break it to you, but if you broke the law and managed to create some energy, the weponary potential is limitless......Iron Man...

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world power.

Man trolls are so fun aren't they. Compare the above to the below...

So begs the question, why would another tap into another energy be different?

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Also, what leads us to believe that there would be a substantial energy to be gained by tapping the echo of the big bang?


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What leads us to believe that we could get more from their than from the sun.....

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Would it be cool, absolutely, would it change the world...doubtful.

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Also, a device that runs off of the vibrations of the universe is again no more "OU" than a solar pendulum Solar pendulum | accomplished or the hoover dam for that matter.

Can it get any more obvious than this that this guy is just here for an argument? Maybe his momma didn't show him enough love as a child...

Hey 218971230-3 can you take your arguing back to your thread please, you are getting in the way of progress. Thanks.