How to release an OU device to the world

[Farmhand]

now were getting somewhere. Like a real conversation.

OK, here we go:
We can already freely and effictively tap into the more obvious energies around us, wind,solar,hydro. These have not solved our energy problem.

So begs the question, why would another tap into another energy be different?

I wouldn't say the echo of the big bang myself I would say the quantum or "Universal" fluctuation is what we want to tap, well that's what I would go after.

The energy present is not miniscule. As stated and well known nothing in the Universe is static or stationary, everything is moving at tremendous speeds and with great energy. It is the energy of cause and effect on the most fundamental level. It is the energy that moves the planets around the suns for a very long time, which is for us as good as eternity.

There is an enormous constant flow of energies that keep the huge machine of the cosmos turning and spinning. This is what powers the sun as She breathes. And what spins and rotates the earth and planets around the sun.
It is virtually limitless.

How it could be tapped directly,efficiently and usefully is the question. But that is really the only question left as far as I can tell.

Considering the level of energies involved I don't think we will deplete it, much.

So to get you're opinion. What is the energy that powers the movent of the planets, solar systems and galaxies ect. is it just kinetic energy from the big bang itself ?

Cheers

[142857]

Getting somewhere in conversation?!?! Are you crazy? All I see is a pathetic waste of human energy and brain power that is contradicting itself...







Man trolls are so fun aren't they. Compare the above to the below...



Can it get any more obvious than this that this guy is just here for an argument? Maybe his momma didn't show him enough love as a child...

Hey 218971230-3 can you take your arguing back to your thread please, you are getting in the way of progress. Thanks.

I thought I said there was a major dif in CREATING energy from nothing and tapping into the cosmos?

My questions about tapping the foam are legit too.



Here is a question for you....when you read a post I write do you just imaging that I'm yelling or somthing?

My line of questioning has been far more proactive than discussing how to go about releasing a device you can't even define, much less produce.

one more time.....a motor that runs off the energy in the aether is no OU.

once you figure out how to tap the aether, you will be able to hook any suitable machine to it......just like.....you guessed it, a solar panel.

And I've yet to contridict myself.....if you actually read what i wrote as opposed to skimming it with the preconcieved mindset that I'm just an argueing idiot you maybe would realize this.

I liked it better when you were going to ignore me, you've yet to add anything except a hypothetically impossible waterhose analogy. You just want me to be wrong so freakin bad and I'm just asking questions. Find a new cause. I'm not the enemy. Arguing this stuff actually helps me think about this stuff.

my last post was not argumentative.

[142857]

I wouldn't say the echo of the big bang myself I would say the quantum or "Universal" fluctuation is what we want to tap, well that's what I would go after.

The energy present is not miniscule. As stated and well known nothing in the Universe is static or stationary, everything is moving at tremendous speeds and with great energy. It is the energy of cause and effect on the most fundamental level. It is the energy that moves the planets around the suns for a very long time, which is for us as good as eternity.

There is an enormous constant flow of energies that keep the huge machine of the cosmos turning and spinning. This is what powers the sun as She breathes. And what spins and rotates the earth and planets around the sun.
It is virtually limitless.

How it could be tapped directly,efficiently and usefully is the question. But that is really the only question left as far as I can tell.

Considering the level of energies involved I don't think we will deplete it, much.

So to get you're opinion. What is the energy that powers the movent of the planets, solar systems and galaxies ect. is it just kinetic energy from the big bang itself ?

Cheers

Not really....the sun, presumably through gravity has gathered it's fule and is burning it.....the sun could be considered a system unto it's self. It's energy comes from the reactions taking place within.....imo the billions and billions of active stars burning independantly must and do effect their general vicinity.

So the solar system it's self is likely moving under it's own power (sun is the driver) on a larger scale I'd suggest that the galaxy is doing much the same with the black hole or the million suns at the core are powering it the same way.....as to why our galaxy is moving throug space in relation to everything else is likely residual kinetic energy from the inital bang.

That's a simplistic theory I know, but I think it's somewhat sound.

All the mass in the universe isn't moving just because of the big bang...some things are fuleing other things.

? I dunno.

[quantumuppercut]

now were getting somewhere. Like a real conversation.

OK, here we go:
We can already freely and effictively tap into the more obvious energies around us, wind,solar,hydro. These have not solved our energy problem.

So begs the question, why would another tap into another energy be different?

Also, what leads us to believe that there would be a substantial energy to be gained by tapping the echo of the big bang? We are talking about the most infintismal energy we can even detect. I mean, I can walk outside and physically feel the wind and the sun, I can stand in a stream and feel that energy too. I have to have some hella equip to even hypothosize about this otherwise undetectable energy. What leads us to believe that we could get more from their than from the sun.....there probably is more there, unfortunately it's spread out all over creation.

Would it be cool, absolutely, would it change the world...doubtful.

Also, a device that runs off of the vibrations of the universe is again no more "OU" than a solar pendulum Solar pendulum | accomplished or the hoover dam for that matter.

I'm also going to have to stick it out for a collector/receptor. I truly believe(my opinion) that no matter how fast you spin some magnets over any number of coils, the energy of the universe is not going to just jump into your machine.

In my opinion, solar/wind/hydro is still too expensive. Why couldn't it be cheaper? I don't know. Second, there are people who still wasting energy so no matter how much energy you give to them, it won't be enough. To have more energy, you must first learn how to save energy.

About your estimation on this cosmic energy source. It is like undertalk about nuclear energy before we know how to split the atom.

[142857]

In my opinion, solar/wind/hydro is still too expensive. Why couldn't it be cheaper? I don't know. Second, there are people who still wasting energy so no matter how much energy you give to them, it won't be enough. To have more energy, you must first learn how to save energy.

About your estimation on this cosmic energy source. It is like undertalk about nuclear energy before we know how to split the atom.

it's all still too expensive and it likely always will be, as long as this system is in place...... agreed<emphasis on greed.

My estimation on this energy source...that's cool, I'll go with that. After all we should be able to agree that all anybody has is and estimation/opinion at this point anyway.

I would base my estimation on this.

I contend that the sun would constitute a cosmic energy.
I can walk outside and immediately feel the sun.
We can attribute almost everything we know about, to the sun....ie oil comes from the sun, etc etc.
We can tap into that energy if we want to through various methods not just limited to the panel.
It's the most obvious cosmic energy. It's not hypothetical, it's there. Plain as day so to speak.

As I said, everything we know about, we can track the energy it took to get the way it is back to the sun.

So the other cosmic energy is responsible for what? Vibrations? That's not intended to be smart alec....I'm really asking. Do we know of anything that is a result of this energy?

If we could truly detect it and tap into and use it....what leads us to believe that it would be powerful? er more powerful than the sun?

If we had a mechanism so precise and fine it that could translate the vibrations of atoms into ele......how strong could it be?




Again, contrary to what a few here might think .... I'm not yelling.

[Shadesz]

So the other cosmic energy is responsible for what? Vibrations? That's not intended to be smart alec....I'm really asking. Do we know of anything that is a result of this energy?

If we could truly detect it and tap into and use it....what leads us to believe that it would be powerful? er more powerful than the sun?

Geothermal is energy from the cosmic realm not originating form the sun. The idea might be that cosmic energy isn't more powerful than the sun, but it definitely will be more concentrated than the sun rays that hit our planet.

[142857]

Geothermal is energy from the cosmic realm not originating form the sun. The idea might be that cosmic energy isn't more powerful than the sun, but it definitely will be more concentrated than the sun rays that hit our planet.

I would have to contest that.....I can't prove it, but I would suggest geothermal is indeed a result of the sun....I could see if gravity added heat to the system, but I'm pretty sure the molten core, got that way via the sun in the first place.

Also, alot of the "geothermal" we use has nadda to do with the earths core....ie, a goethermal house

ps
I wanna qualify the above by saying I could see it if the core of the earth was hot just based on the gravity and mass involved...but I still think the sun had the most to do with it.

I'm sure there is decay to consider as well, somthing as big and alive as the earth is somewhat of a system unto its self(understatement) but it's FUELED by the sun.
There would be no geothermal if this planet hadn't formed the way it did and, the planet formed this way, most likely due to the sun.

Either way, the core is probally not hot due to the resonance of the universe.

[142857]

for kicks, lets go a step further. I kinda developed this as a thought excersise, kept me entertained for a bit.

Imagine any object or system in motion. A cyclic system, or anything in motion.
Try to determine where the energy that created the motion came from. the input/fuel/driving force.

Now some things have to lend themselves to theory, as they are yet beyond us......I could say that the galaxy is moving through space due to the kinetic energy of the big bang, or that dark matter is spreading it....whatever, it's just a theory, because we can't KNOW in the true sense.
same thing for electrons or other tiny tiny stuffs.

but pretty much anything else that I can come up with has an obvious and apparent input/drive/fuel.

So we understand the question.

A baseball flying through the air ...... fuel/input=kinetic, bat, throw, whatever.
Animal fuel/input=food
bedini motor fuel/input=battery

of course some things can and do have multiple inputs or combinations of forces.....the baseball I hit has gravity acting upon it as well as the kinetic I pounded into it. If i hit it off of a tall building, the fuel that I input could be long spent before it ever comes to rest....etc

Can we come up with any energetic system or object, cyclic or not, in which the fuel/input/drive force, is not apparent?

that's what I had pondered.....now I would ask:

Can we come up with any energetic system or object in motion where the apparent driving force is this "cosmic/quantum/energy from the vaccum"?

[Shadesz]

Can we come up with any energetic system or object in motion where the apparent driving force is this "cosmic/quantum/energy from the vaccum"?

Yes. Give it a few months. You will be surprised. It's closer than you think.

[142857]

Yes. Give it a few months. You will be surprised. It's closer than you think.

Apparently bedini did it aroun '84 too.

nevermind shadesz, don't bother with the question....more propaganda please.

I didn't ask if you believed that there would be one someday.

Is there any evidence of any system natural or fabricated that is operating from this energy?

[toranarod]

Here is an Idea for market release of an OU device.
I was just describing my work in another post when I thought this idea belongs here.
I am thinking about this all the time. If we are to release an OU device onto the market
We need to sneak it in the back door. How about a wind generator that is basically OU because it is lenzless bit is powered by the wind. A device that nobody knows is over unity. Then as people set it up and play with it some would just see what its potential was and it would grow all by its self.

[toranarod]

Apparently bedini did it aroun '84 too.

nevermind shadesz, don't bother with the question....more propaganda please.

I didn't ask if you believed that there would be one someday.

Is there any evidence of any system natural or fabricated that is operating from this energy?

Only if you believe the people that have seen it. I can name a few but its up to the observer. In the eye of the beholder. there is Hibro check that one out?

[ashtweth]

Hi Rod

Hidro is VERY real, 24 million in world patents, i measured it and have been there my self,(panacea was invited as we are independent) i am non profit,
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The inventor is holding many engineering results and world patent(S) worth 24 million, i am holding etheric rain engineering air born tubes and a fuel saver the Z5 all work the same as Hidro

Been there done that and measured it under NDA, its not 5KW thats why we really need to FINANCE PEOPLE LIKE ROD FOR OPEN SOURCE HOME POWER (VID SOON), but Hidro can stop gas fracking mean time we are fund raising, better than doing nothing.

any how let make this open source video that this thread is intended for, AND A WAY TO MEASURE IT like the caloric meters, already made and filmed the meters for this and working on your ideas posted here in this thread IT HELPS YOU GUYS ...YOU ALL ARE ARE GREAT NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, been working hard on the cancer stuff too, we are silent cause we are working like Rod

love you all
Ash

PS DONT WASTE TIME ON NEGATIVE PEOPLE THEY DRAIN ENERGY THATS ALL THEY DO IF YOU LET THEM

[freepenguin]

Here is an Idea for market release of an OU device.
I was just describing my work in another post when I thought this idea belongs here.
I am thinking about this all the time. If we are to release an OU device onto the market
We need to sneak it in the back door. How about a wind generator that is basically OU because it is lenzless bit is powered by the wind. A device that nobody knows is over unity. Then as people set it up and play with it some would just see what its potential was and it would grow all by its self.

Yeap. That's only way putting FE devices on the market. People won't be able to get out real FE devices following the laws and rules.

If I would have a FE technology, I never go for a patent nor do normal business. I rather use it for myself and make it fully open source for public domain. What's the greatest thing of open source movement in computer industry is the creators are immune to liability without warranty nor laws that might prohibit technology usage. Open source technology is free and the end user takes responsibility 100%.

It's native thinking of a free energy device will bring the power of god to any individuals. Engineering, material limitation dictates machine's output. A FE device that has high ratio of COP is hard to build.

A F1 racing car is hundreds times expensive than conventional cars. To drive it is different story. Performance wise for speed it's best of the bests. Only few owns them.

The true meaning of "free" in "free energy" is you get the power of independence not implying unlimited amount of energy with zero cost. The owner needs to pay money initial purchase and maintenance. Machines will break down. What makes it different then?