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  • I am not set up to do any testing at this stage which is why I posed it as a question based on the theory of why it works.

    Calculation of the Delayed Lenz Effect - YouTube

    If you calculate the time it takes for a armature pole to move past a stator pole based on armature circumference and rpm, you should be able to calculate the required series inductance to add to each generator winding to phase shift the lenz field to where you want it.

    I have also just asked the person who made that video if he is willing to test the external inductor theory. Lets see what happens.
    Last edited by Sydney; 09-22-2011, 02:27 AM.

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    • @ Sydney, what an elegantly simple idea

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      • There is a 90 degree phase shift every time you charge and discharge a coil.

        The only problem with the coil is it also has resistance.
        keep the phase shift at 90 degrees. the only way to do that is inductance high and resistance low.
        and time shift as slow as possible. T = XL/R. RPM fast as possible. The longer the time moves forward the more L and R move into phase. YES.

        just look at you capacitor time constant when a capacitor is full charged the light goes out. if you are charging it through a globe or LED.

        do the same thing with a coil and the longer you charge it the brighter the globe gets until the only thing left is R and your coil is just a resistor.

        there is only inductance(Z) while there is motion they only draw current by impedance while the voltage is in a state of flux. after that it returns to resistance. and a capacitor goes open circuit

        the closer you are to the point of switch the closer you are to maximum phase of 90 degrees. just look at the graph in the video. this why we get better results with high rpm and a very low load

        Calculation of the Delayed Lenz Effect - YouTube
        Last edited by toranarod; 09-22-2011, 04:01 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Sydney View Post
          I am not set up to do any testing at this stage which is why I posed it as a question based on the theory of why it works.

          Calculation of the Delayed Lenz Effect - YouTube

          If you calculate the time it takes for a armature pole to move past a stator pole based on armature circumference and rpm, you should be able to calculate the required series inductance to add to each generator winding to phase shift the lenz field to where you want it.

          I have also just asked the person who made that video if he is willing to test the external inductor theory. Lets see what happens.
          are you an Aussie

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          • Finally i've got the effect !

            After days of testing ... here is my first result, thanks to Romero for advising the single coil/many RPM test


            Speed Under Load Test.


            COIL :

            24 SWG (0.56mm, 23 AWG is closest at 0.573mm)

            L = 53 mH
            R = 60 Ohms

            55mm long and 37mm wide.

            Coil former barrel diameter is 15mm.

            Unsure of number of turns since shop bought.


            ROTOR :

            VHS motor.

            Diameter : 60mm


            MAGNETS :

            8 x 10mm diameter x 5mm height disc magnets, grade N42.
            Magnets arranged N/S.


            DRIVE CIRCUITRY :

            Standard SSG drive circuit with charging diode removed.


            RESULTS :

            At 1100 RPM, shorting the coil increased the RPM to 1290

            The input current went up from 115 mA to 120 mA

            I will now do more testing and post results

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            • @qvision,

              Your output coil coupled with, "steady state, and minimum current draw" of your single power coil and diametric spinner, should yield some interesting results.

              Any chance you can upload a video of you latest success?
              Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-23-2011, 05:02 PM.

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              • Hi AB

                I have been recording results all the way from min to max RPM.

                I have had a few spots where RPM goes up while current draw stays the same, and i have just had my first result where the RPM goes up and the current draw goes down

                I have yet to try this coil with the diametric magnet, current setup is a VHS rotor with 8 little magnets on the outside, as in the geometry of the Adams motor.

                My camera battery is charging

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                • After a bit of investigation for an existing ready-made motor design to test this with, it seems as if a stepper motor is a really good candidate for a delayed lenz generator because the poles are so close together that it most likely will not require much lenz delay to go into 'push' mode.

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                  • Sidney i read that brushless 'outrunner' motors are even better for that :

                    brushless outrunner | eBay

                    Also, read my thread starting here, i am DeepCut on this forum :

                    DELAYING LENZ LAW ...

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                    • Test results.

                      @qvision,

                      Quote from qvision's output coil test:

                      "I have just had my first result where the RPM goes up and the current draw goes down".


                      BEMF accounts for this effect in the power coil, but we need a different theory to explain where the power originates from with your new results. Hence, the output coil core demagnetization source begins to appear as a possibility.


                      Very exciting results. I'm back at shop from holiday in Asia. I'll go back to work on my nested generator soon. I am clear about the nature of my new string of tests. Hope to upload some new videos soon.
                      Last edited by Allen Burgess; 09-24-2011, 05:46 PM.

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                      • Look forward to the new experiments and videos

                        I am trying to get the effect with aircore coils and i think this may be why Muller had the cone shaped coils, in order to do concentrate the flux, maybe we can even do away with the core.

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                        • Hello you Guys,

                          Today I have made a new Video about the Thane C Heins, Regenerative Acceleration Effect.
                          This time there were no moving parts involved. This time I was able to show the same effect inside a transformer...

                          Please see my new video about the regenerative generator effect also taking place in a transformer:
                          Transformer Delayed Lenz Effect - YouTube

                          With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

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                          • Originally posted by Overunityguide View Post
                            Hello you Guys,

                            Today I have made a new Video about the Thane C Heins, Regenerative Acceleration Effect.
                            This time there were no moving parts involved. This time I was able to show the same effect inside a transformer...

                            Please see my new video about the regenerative generator effect also taking place in a transformer:
                            Transformer Delayed Lenz Effect - YouTube

                            With Kind Regards, Overunityguide
                            Nice...maybe Tesla coil belong to this category.

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                            • air core design tool

                              The following is a design tool which calculates the inductance of an air core inductor.

                              L= (d^2 * n^2)/(18d+40l)

                              where:

                              L is inductance in micro Henrys,
                              d is coil diameter in inches,
                              l is coil length in inches, and
                              n is number of turns.

                              d (coil diameter in inches) (inches)
                              l (coil length in inches) (inches)
                              n (number of turns)


                              L (Inductance) (uH)

                              Inductor and Coil Manufacturer

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                              • Hello you All,

                                After a couple of questions about doing a video about scope shots and power factor measurements on my Regenerative Acceleration Generator effect Transformer, here you can find my follow up video:

                                Transformer Part 2, the Delayed Lenz Effect with Scope Shots - YouTube

                                With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

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