Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

[Allen Burgess]

I believe it would be an "Alternator". Spin the Newman Magnet up, or better yet replace it with a powerfull diametric Neo. and some good bearings. You have to design a motor for it, but if the rotor magnet has two poles, the current will be full sine wave a.c. It can demonstrate the effect through a broad range of r.p.m.

[elias]

I believe it would be an "Alternator". Spin the Newman Magnet up, or better yet replace it with a powerfull diametric Neo. and some good bearings. You have to design a motor for it, but if the rotor magnet has two poles, the current will be full sine wave a.c. It can demonstrate the effect through a broad range of r.p.m.

I hope so, you made me a next project.

[Guest]

Overunityguide,

A question in response to your demonstration on the
delayed Lenz transformer... You've got a couple of watts
going into the LED lightbulbs, while the system current
drops by as much when the secondary coil is put on load
at the 950Hz setting.

How much is available?? Would ten times as many lightbulbs
drop the input by the same amount as one or an order of magnitude
greater reducing the idle power to Zero?

[Overunityguide]

Overunityguide,

A question in response to your demonstration on the
delayed Lenz transformer... You've got a couple of watts
going into the LED lightbulbs, while the system current
drops by as much when the secondary coil is put on load
at the 950Hz setting.

How much is available?? Would ten times as many lightbulbs
drop the input by the same amount as one or an order of magnitude
greater reducing the idle power to Zero?

@geotron, no it won't work that way. I have used two light bulbs, but they burned less brighter in a pair. So I guess that it was drawing the same amount of power in that case...

But in my opinion the most interesting aspect in this setup, is that we can run the load purely reactive.

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

[quantumuppercut]

@geotron, no it won't work that way. I have used two light bulbs, but they burned less brighter in a pair. So I guess that it was drawing the same amount of power in that case...

But in my opinion the most interesting aspect in this setup, is that we can run the load purely reactive.

With Kind Regards, Overunityguide

One thing I'm still speculating about drawing reactive power and the power given by delay Lenz and all. It could be cold current. Something end up like this.

StifflerDr's Channel - YouTube

Still thinking about the issue but if we can check the heating when drawing reactive power to normal DC loading for the same power.

[Guest]

Overunityguide,

It seems the amount of power being collected by the load running at 950Hz is
dependant on the physical properties of the secondary transformer coil.

Indeed quite interesting... The other transformer you've demonstrated with
the laminate core is much more versatile with the removable parts. Could a
second hi-impedance coil be positioned on the other side of the primary
with a resultant gain in output power? Then if true would there be a limit
to the number of output coils?

Would having a bifilar primary give the energy being used to power the load
a recovery pathway by channeling it into a capacitor bank connected to the
second primary coil? If the source is a 12V battery, when this recovery bank
reaches a level of voltage suitable for charging, couldn't it somehow be
immediately disconnected from the coil while also shorting across the battery
with a resultant gain in efficiency?

[qvision]

@ QuantumUpperCut

My cores get hot, this isn't ZPE or anything like it

[qvision]

@ OUG

What wire diameters are your primary and secondary in the transformer videos ?

[quantumuppercut]

@ QuantumUpperCut

My cores get hot, this isn't ZPE or anything like it

I do expect things to get hot, but if things are out of phase, it shouldn't be as much. I think our experiments are about 10-80 degrees out of phase. I see OUG and gotoluc are on similar path, but one is using high freq and one is using low freq tuning. I think both is trying to tune to draw reactive power. I also speculate the reason power go down in OUG demo is when load is apply, a counter flux minimize the core alignment reducing hysteresis losses. When the magnetic field collapse, Lenz continue to operate because of winding inductance. In a way, it's not Lenz is being delay, but rather Lenz can't reverse direction quick enough due to inductance.

[qvision]

Yes, those transformer experiments are looking interesting.

My new wire should arrive tomorrow or the day after so that i can confirm whether or not a higher impedance coil can support a wider range of loads and possibly bring the rotor speed up to a higher one than what is achieved with an open coil with core.

With a coil like that, then each additional load that is added further increases rotational speed ...

[quantumuppercut]

Yes, those transformer experiments are looking interesting.

My new wire should arrive tomorrow or the day after so that i can confirm whether or not a higher impedance coil can support a wider range of loads and possibly bring the rotor speed up to a higher one than what is achieved with an open coil with core.

With a coil like that, then each additional load that is added further increases rotational speed ...

I think you should check with Rod's experiment on Mu metal. The best he could get is the same as no core. I think Mu metal has little to no hysteresis losses, but not sure. The way I'm thinking right now is that you will neutralize Lenz to a point where the core becomes plastic. lol But you can try and confirm his finding or discover new one. Good work.

[smoky]

Yes, those transformer experiments are looking interesting.

My new wire should arrive tomorrow or the day after so that i can confirm whether or not a higher impedance coil can support a wider range of loads and possibly bring the rotor speed up to a higher one than what is achieved with an open coil with core.

With a coil like that, then each additional load that is added further increases rotational speed ...

In the meantime Qvision maybe you'd like to try attaching a couple of thin steel washers insulated from each other, in front of your pickup stator coil.
It takes a finite time for the domains to flip in each washer before saturation. At which point the washers disappear & normal induction occurs.
Meaning the core's induced EMF is later.
Hence when load current is drawn from stator coil rotor should tend to accelerate away and Lenz helps reset the washers toward previous polarity.

Just a thought, Gerry

[qvision]

@ QU, 'same as no core' is good, i will try Mu metal at some point, first i want to get a coil with good performance properties, and i have a pound of magnetite to try as core material also.

@ smoky, thanks for that i will try it, i have a plumbing shop near me.

I noticed something i didn't expect, backing/biasing/helper magnets help with this setup, even though it's N/S !

It doesn't seem to matter which way round they are, i get a few Hz extra speed and 1 or 2 mA less current draw.

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I just tried a hollow core, the masonry shield rather than the bolt i've been using, and it performs very badly, no acceleration on load.

[Allen Burgess]

One thing I'm still speculating about drawing reactive power and the power given by delay Lenz and all. It could be cold current. Something end up like this.

StifflerDr's Channel - YouTube

Still thinking about the issue but if we can check the heating when drawing reactive power to normal DC loading for the same power.

Should be cooling down! Digital IR thermometers with correct accuracy are around $35.

[qvision]

Seeing as i have no resin, i decided to try a magnetite core by just filling up the barrel of my coil-former with the powder and compressing it as much as possible (yes i was bored !).

I taped over the ends, spun up the tube magnet, placed the coil in it's usual position and the magnet spun faster and the current draw went down with no short-circuit or load !

This was interesting so i hopefully shorted the coil but it acted like a normal generator, it was the same with a load.

How strange that initial effect, though, when the coil was open ?