Confirming the Delayed Lenz Effect

[qvision]

Today i tested the device with mutiple (3) coils.

In these tests the coils are not connected together, they are short-circuited individually.

All coils are bifilar-wound and individually serially-connected, here are their properties :

1.

L : 20 Henries +, more than my meter can read.
R : 406

2.

L : 20 +
R : 402

3.

L : 13.2
R : 390


Coils 1 and 2 were placed opposite each other, North and South of the rotor magnet, so-to-speak, and the third coil was placed in between them, at the East position.

Results of multi-coil tests :


No coils present.

hz : 502

ma : 452

1 coil present open circuit.

hz : 417
ma : 472

1 coil present short circuit.

hz : 505
ma : 445

2 coils present, both open circuit.

hz : 393
ma : 475

2 coils present, both short circuited.

hz : 514
ma : 438

3 coils present, open circuit.

hz : 388
ma : 474

3 coils present, all short-circuited

hz : 511
ma : 440


I think i understand why two coils outperformed three with my setup.

Because it is a single-magnet rotor, the two coils on opposite sides of the magnet are synchronised in the sense that they both experience the flux change at the same time, whereas the third coil, which is in the middle of the other two, experiences flux-change after the first coil and before the second of the other two coils, so the timing is wrong and possibly fights against the effect from the other two.

I confirmed this by moving the third coil closer to one of the others and performance goes up.

Also, coil three's inductance is 13 Henries vs 20+ Henries and that may contribute to the lack of additional performance benefits.

Obviously the single-magnet design has it's limitations, the physical space required for many coils isn't available and the timing problem, if i'm right about that.

Thane's idea is that, with multiple short-circuited coils, any loaded generator coils that are introduced to the system will have a minimum detrimental effect.

I did a small test with a high current coil in place with two acceleration coils and it accelerated the rotor under load, helping the effect while powering a small light bulb.

I'll be making a multi-magnet rotor now but in the meantime i'll experiment with getting power out of this device, time to order some more high-current wire ;+}


All the best,

DC.

[Allen Burgess]

Quadfilar Spiral Coil.

My last tests produced the same results as my former ones. Shorting the output coils in the Rodin style multifilar slows the spinner down, but running the output back to source charges the run battery!

Balanceing the load seams to produce the effect. I uploaded alot of boring videos showing nothing happening, because it's running too close to unity.

The circuit stopped working while I tried to wire a 1 Farad capacitor in to try to get a self runner off the capacitor. The capacitor alone slows the spinner down untill it charges up, then it begins to reaccelerate.

The BEMF in the power coil from the 26k rpm 1" Neo sphere is so great, there's no room for any input.

Looping back to source creates a resonace between the input and output windings that I believe manufactures a "Lenz Delay Effect" inside the coil that I can't reproduce with an unbalanced load. The output coil is technically just shorted to the battey through a FWBR, but THE OUTPUT COIL must recieve some kind of Feedback charge from the battery between pulses, perhaps at a level equal to the voltage in the power coil, Voila some kind of "Tank Resonance"! Who knows?

[qvision]

Quad-filar, very cool AB

I noticed that caps drain the device at first but then it's ok when the cap fills, i suppose the cap is like a temporary load until it fills.

Careful with that big cap,i got a shockfrom my 150 uF/450 volt one the other day, it was 18 inches away from the spinning magnet and it had charged up !

[Allen Burgess]

I had one blow up, sounded like a cherry bomb going off! Quadfilar, that leaves one wire left over, but I think all it would be good for is charging another equal strength battery, without encountering "Lenz Drag". We have proven the exceptions to Lenz Law. A function of phase shift and frequency. There's something outside the customary laws of physics taking place here, but it only shows up right there. We would have to tailor a load to sustain the resonance.

[aaron5120]

Rodin setup by Allen

I had one blow up, sounded like a cherry bomb going off! Quadfilar, that leaves one wire left over, but I think all it would be good for is charging another equal strength battery, without encountering "Lenz Drag". We have proven the exceptions to Lenz Law. A function of phase shift and frequency. There's something outside the customary laws of physics taking place here, but it only shows up right there. We would have to tailor a load to sustain the resonance.

Hi Allen,
I would like to replicate your discovery, do you have a video clip of the setup? I have two Rodin coils at hand ATM. One is wound over a plastic donas, and another one is wound over a donas filled with ferrite powder. They are both bifilar only.
aaron5120

[Allen Burgess]

Trifilar.

@aaron5120

This may not be that easy easy; Spin a magnet sphere up with a Bedini SSG circuit in one Rodin, then use one wire from the other Rodin coil to test the output voltage when placed in adjacency as a recieving coil. The output voltage has to be around the same as the battery voltage to work. Check first and measure the voltage from one Rodin output winding and get back with the results. Meanwhile, run the output current directly back to source through a FWBR if it matches. We're relying on Frequency Resonance to create a special pathway for the return curret, not a switch. The output hz from the recieving coil should match the pulse comming from the battery we're returning it to. This acts as a common denominator for the charge.

Consider the similarity of your two yolked bifilar Rodin coils with four wires of its own, and the four wire power coil of Bedini's self energizer.

We see evidence of "Lenz Delay" in Rick Friedrich's Voltage Increase Generator circuit. No one bothers to try and explain why the wheel starts to spin faster when the power's cut off and the charge circuit's engaged! Take a close look at Rick's tested setup in the attachment. The wireing's practically identical to mine, except mine's Rodin style coil and frictionless bearing. Much more elegant then Rick's cumbersome bearing job. The only difference is I run wires one and two together where the switch is and voltage compatable, eliminate the capacitor.

The third coil "Pops back to the primary"! says Rick Friedrich, "The wheel runs alot faster when the 3rd output wrap is shorted across the capacitor"! Sounds like "Lenz Delay Propulsion" right?

Quote from Rick about his self runner:

"What I was trying to do was disconnect the battery from the SSG on the positive side and pulse the battery with pickup coil while disconnected and then disconnect the pickup/bridge connection on the positive leg and reconnect the battery to the front end of the SSG. I showed a very simple one battery setup like this 2 years ago on the monopole list called increased volts. There I had filled up a cap with the trifilar inductance setup and disconnected the positive leg to pulse the cap across the battery. This I did for 8 hours and filmed an increased volts slightly every 10 minutes".

That's about the same rate of run battery charge increase I get just wired straight across from the rectifier to the battery, coupled with the increased rotor speed. Backpoping with a switch does nothing to add power. Frequency resonance of 400 hz on each wire creates a special pathway of its own. It works just as good to wire the rectifier directly to the battery. A trifilar power coil wired that simply, with a spinner up to threshold speed, should yield OU with just the addition of one "Lenz Propulsion" output coil. Any add speed advantage output charge at all from the second coil would have to be >1.

This rudimentary three winding pulse motor recovery coil and circuit may be the first "Thane Heins" OU regenerative motor alternator.! The backpopper theory of Rick's may be some kind of a mirage, because the speed up of the rotor has nothing to do with any spikeback charge effect from the periodic, cleared path capacitor discharge.

[aaron5120]

Thanks Allen, I'll try the setup and post the results afterwards.
Have to order the spherical magnets though.
aaron5120

[Allen Burgess]

New video.

Another cool "Lenz Acceleration" video:


min2oly's Channel - YouTube

[Allen Burgess]

New experiment.

I just succeeded in spinning a 1" neo magnet sphere inside the hollow core of a 1/2 pound spool of factory wraped 34 guage magnet wire. The 34 guage spool positioned sideways, throuh the aircore of the upright Rodin spiral multifilar, Like a thick axel through a wheel hub. The magnet spinner went to high end before I was knocked back by a powerfull shock. Back to the drawing board. The power's awesome! I need to build a platform frame before I can test more fully for signs of "Lenz Delay Acceleration". The proportions and performance through the thick wire walls of the high inductance manufactured spool were tops. The magnet floats on an air cushion resulting from the confined space. I was balancing the sphere with hands on each end of the open mag wire spool when I took the very powerfull shock through the arms. Makes me wonder if power might be gathered with Hendershot style coffee can type capacitors on each side like Lester's generator? I managed to capture a video shot. This setup delivered wall socket strength shock. The voltage is really scary.

[qvision]

The new test-bed for a multi-magnet setup is now ready :

http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/...1/DSC01475.jpg

24 neos 10x10mm, N42, 0.52 Tesla going North/South around the rotor.

Same drive coil/circuitry before, a-la-Bedini SSG with the charging component removed.


Wil post results,

[Allen Burgess]

New acceleration under load video.

Here's what appears to be yet again another "Fossil" Lenz Delay effect video. Interesting! His r.p.m.'s are very slow, below 1K, but he has hIs rotor magnets spinning along as well like
Tops. I think now, after having taken a skeptical look at his videos before, that there actually might be some advantage to twirling the magnets on the rotor after all!

The New And Improved Generator ( speed ) - YouTube

[qvision]

I've been testing the new setup, with occasional pauses for sleep and food ;+}

It seems that it generates more power than it uses but i will have to wait until i get a scope (new year).

Here's a vid :

New setup to explore acceleration-under-load. - YouTube


Thanks for reading,

QV.

[Allen Burgess]

Self runner.

Why not try looping back to source. Two transformers, microwave 500 to 120 ac connected to 120 to 12 Radio Shack, then the rectifier to run battery. See if it charges.

[qvision]

I've just realised that it won't speed up under load in this config

Thane Heins says i should wire them in parallel which i will try later today and post results.

[aladinlamp]

all in one graph

Hi

i want to better understand what exactly happens in alternator regarding magnetic flux, lenz law, current, etc



assume you have 1 stationary coil, just 1 magnet on the rotor and you make just 1 revolution

best way show all the action is single graph, where you show magnetic flux, induced emf and current on the same time line

can somebody show me such graph, where all units start at zero value and end up at zero value, with respect to time

just 1 magnet, 1 revolution, 1 complet cycle on single graph


thanx