Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[Guruji]

Heater device

Hi Slovenia do you have a design what you've did so we can understand more?
Thanks for sharing

[Slovenia]

Beer Can Boiler PDF File

Latest sonic boiler pdf file attached.


Latest Update Sept 25, 2011.

I'll continue to add updates to this pdf file, so check back frequently because it will be an ongoing work.

For a while I'll just be adding to my pdf file only and not responding to any questions on the board.

[RAMSET]

Language barrier

We need some one that speaks Mr. C's native tongue?

I feel a lot of the problems would be remedied with a staight forward translator?

Chet

[wrtner]

I know a 60hz EM wave is practically half the size of the planet?

After all Davey Tunes with a PIANO ??
We're tuning with the "MAINS"??

We are not talking EM waves; we are talking acoustic waves in air.

I don't think Davey used a piano. The nearest note is G and this
could be used as a rough tuning guide. But to get the tuning
accurate, we should listen to our mains hum and tune to that.

One way is to get a high wattage resistor, put it in series with a
cheap loudspeaker (maybe from an old scrapped TV) and put this
across the mains. YOU MUST GET YOUR SUMS RIGHT OR BE
GUIDED BY YOUR ELECTRONICS SHOP.

Paul-R

[andronover]

What do you think about this heater.
Most interesting IMHO :
FUELLESS HEATER NO FUEL NO GAS NO WOOD NO GREEN HOUSE GASES - YouTube

[WeThePeople_USA]

I'm sorry,
but I hold my ground on the fact that even though your contact says
to sand the thickness of the can, he/she is blatently wrong on that.

Trimming by length on an ubber-thin vessal like a "Tin" can
meets ALL of the tuning criteria for a cylindrical item like this can.

In fact it is preferential to modifying thickness
(as opposed to the sanding of a thick solid body "bell" aHa Davey Heater).

But if I am right,
I'm pointing out a flaw overseen.

When you sand a painted can you expose the outer surface,
and as such expose it to the electrolytic enviroment too.

Just think of sanding exposed surfaces for an HHO implementation.

Can it be that when your contact "Sanded" it to "tune" it,
what actually happened is he/she exposed it elecrically instead ?

And the sudeen rise in performance of his "Method" is due to this ?

All positive intentions meant !

[WeThePeople_USA]

Look, what have you gleened from your tactfully cautious questions to him/her about the source of the "8X" ring's input/source ?

What is being used to produce this, and at hat levels ?

Even if you get the can "Tuned" to a harmonic of the mains,
surely this cannot work without this (additional) info, correct ?

[dragans]

Hi Slovenia,

I understand Serbian language very well, simply because I live in Serbia . But I don’t speak English very well. I’m glad that you started this tread, because I was interested in Davey’s device long time ago. I didn’t know that anyone in Serbia replicated. I’m please to hear it. I can try to translate some words for you. Do you have an original letter on Serbian language from your contact? Because this Google translate (on Serbian) it is not understandable to me. Did he type the letter on Serbian, and then translated to English over the Google translator?
By the way, Serbian beer can 0.5L is the same as anywhere in the world. It is made from aluminum off course, and dimensions are the same.

Cheers,

[MonsieurM]

Hi Slovenia,

I understand Serbian language very well, simply because I live in Serbia . But I don’t speak English very well. I’m glad that you started this tread, because I was interested in Davey’s device long time ago. I didn’t know that anyone in Serbia replicated. I’m please to hear it. I can try to translate some words for you. Do you have an original letter on Serbian language from your contact? Because this Google translate (on Serbian) it is not understandable to me. Did he type the letter on Serbian, and then translated to English over the Google translator?
By the way, Serbian beer can 0.5L is the same as anywhere in the world. It is made from aluminum off course, and dimensions are the same.

Cheers,

, your help is greatly appreciated by all of us (even those that do not post ) who are following and replicating Slovenia's outstanding work and ;

[Slovenia]

Post #205

Pay attention to post #205. That is where I posted my pdf file of the Serbian boiler and that is also where I will continue to post my updates. I will be communicating through my pdf files for a while and not on the board.

Dragan, thanks for offering to interpret my Serbian messages from my contact. Very much appreciated.

Contact has become very impatient with me. He says we must use .5 liter/500 ml can period.

Slovenia

[HairBear]

Charging water with Singing Bowl - YouTube

This could be considered an inverted sonic boiler.

[dragans]

Hi everyone,
I’m glad if I can help.
I didn’t read all the posts in this tread, so I probably missing something. This guy obviously knows how to calculate the resonant frequency which is the key in this device and in many other devices which are related to COP>1.
I didn’t understand his writing not more then you guys, because in most sentence the key word is translated wrong. It’s not make any sense.
He obviously made this device for 220V/50Hz alternating current, because this is the standard in Europe. Except in GB. And all the drawings and dimensions are calculated for that current (frequency). But in PDF current is 110V/60Hz. He said” if you want I can make you calculations for resonance for 110v/60Hz”. I understand what resonance means for RLC circuit, but I don’t know what it means for pieces of metal. And I didn’t understand where he did get that 300Hz frequency?
As I said I didn’t read all the posts in this tread (I’ll read it during this week), so you don’t have to answer the questions that has been answered all ready.
I’ll get one can of bear today, and I’ll try to measure it. I don’t have any precisely instrument, but I’ll try.


Cheers,

dragan

[RAMSET]

This will change things

dragan
Perhaps if you can write out your questions in Mr. "C"s [contact]native tongue??

Then send them to Slovenia,I am quite sure if handled properly this will yield
Good results very rapidly and perhaps ease the frustration of both Mr.C and Mr S.


Of Course keeping correspondence Private and in Slovenia's [Mr S]control!

Thank You
Chet

[Slovenia]

Can Update

You're looking for a 500 ml can. They go by 500 ml in US instead of .5 liter but it's the same can. There is a lot of European beer all over and in 500 ml cans. Anyway, I wanted to share that. They are a long skinny can with approximately 16.9 oz of beer.

I'm not going to be arguing with anyone about anything!!

[boguslaw]

May I ask something ? Does 'the contact' or inventor say how it is supposed to work ? Am I missed this explanation ?