Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[daemonbart]

Hho

Sirs and Ladies(??)

Well no hho with ac but still something eating the cans

In pulsing dc mode huge amount of hho, dont know about cans in dc, I have only running dc with all parts in stainless.

I have good result with all in stainless (also container), but I seem to loose a bit of tuning benefits and cop. Still cop is really ok.

I can tell some interesting things happen with pulsed dc more of that later

I dont think we should abandon Professors exact setup in any way, I jumped some big steps to heat our house simply because family where freezing.

For now cop around 4-5 is wonderful and we can afford it

Kind rgds from your friend D

Sir
It occured to me whilst I was Pittying poor Slovenia for having to do a Job all over from Scratch [his power steering job].

That we as a group could be heading down the same road??
Can you please share more about your "Can Dissapearing"?? was this during some DC trials or????????

The Professor has not mentioned {to my Knowledge] an issue with Electrolysis! Having stated this device has run without issue for some years?? [I believe that is what he said].

Please??
Thank you
Chet

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Hi Daemonbart,

We'd like to hear about everything you have done and seen regarding your replications. Yes, the inventor did say that much hydrogen could be made when DC was applied. Degradation, electrolysis, of metals was not discussed as a problem with AC applications. Anyway, we'd like to hear about everything you are willing to share. We'd like to see pics of your setup too.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Sirs and Ladies(??)

Well no hho with ac but still something eating the cans

In pulsing dc mode huge amount of hho, dont know about cans in dc, I have only running dc with all parts in stainless.

I have good result with all in stainless (also container), but I seem to loose a bit of tuning benefits and cop. Still cop is really ok.

I can tell some interesting things happen with pulsed dc more of that later

I dont think we should abandon Professors exact setup in any way, I jumped some big steps to heat our house simply because family where freezing.

For now cop around 4-5 is wonderful and we can afford it

Kind rgds from your friend D

[Slovenia]

Message from Mr. "C"

Message from Mr. "C"

Oct. 30, 2011
I want to help you practically and theoretically to make a Sonic Boiler and give cheaper warming.

Energy is free and is everywhere around us, only to catch the resonances to 1/4 wavelength to Taslima said ..
Sonic catches boiler scalar wave as an antenna, resonances to 1/4 wavelength and you use 3/4 height of a standing wave.
Scalar wave of light is faster than 1.54 times said Tesla and academician Professor Konstan Mail from Germania ..

Diameter of cans is 1/4 wavelength waves that capture resonances.
What is the diameter of the smaller cans to catch the wave has a higher frequency and more power within himself.
Tin cans of beer must be thin and long that can easily dojete 60 Hr audio frequencies. Cans of beer you have slimmed down to 60 Hz frequency sound.

[MonsieurM]

Message from Mr. "C"

Oct. 30, 2011
I want to help you practically and theoretically to make a Sonic Boiler and give cheaper warming.

Energy is free and is everywhere around us, only to catch the resonances to 1/4 wavelength to Taslima said ..
Sonic catches boiler scalar wave as an antenna, resonances to 1/4 wavelength and you use 3/4 height of a standing wave.
Scalar wave of light is faster than 1.54 times said Tesla and academician Professor Konstan Mail from Germania ..

Diameter of cans is 1/4 wavelength waves that capture resonances.
What is the diameter of the smaller cans to catch the wave has a higher frequency and more power within himself.
Tin cans of beer must be thin and long that can easily dojete 60 Hr audio frequencies. Cans of beer you have slimmed down to 60 Hz frequency sound.

COHERENCE AT ANY LEVEL IS COHERENCE AT ALL LEVELS.
An orderly arrangement between wave lengths establishes a connection between frequencies and fields. But for this connection to last, it must resonate to all frequencies and fields. This can only be accomplished through the resonate structure of golden mean pathways. a harmonic cascade effect

[Slovenia]

Stainless Query??

Hi Daemonbart,

What type of stainless steel are you using that is being corroded by your process?

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Sirs and Ladies(??)

Well no hho with ac but still something eating the cans

In pulsing dc mode huge amount of hho, dont know about cans in dc, I have only running dc with all parts in stainless.

I have good result with all in stainless (also container), but I seem to loose a bit of tuning benefits and cop. Still cop is really ok.

I can tell some interesting things happen with pulsed dc more of that later

I dont think we should abandon Professors exact setup in any way, I jumped some big steps to heat our house simply because family where freezing.

For now cop around 4-5 is wonderful and we can afford it

Kind rgds from your friend D

[daemonbart]

Stainless

Hi!

I see no corrosion on my rings, mostly stainless 304, but cans of aluminium loose material rather fast. After running ac 1-2 h´s I see trough the can at the open end. Mostly under the ring. When running in open container ac 230V I can smell very little ozone and maybe some cloride.. Instead of beer cans I now use similar size of stainless containers, about 0,7mm thickness. My ring material mostly around 0,4 - 0,5 mm. With all stainless, no corrosion at all (ac). I have only used tap water, here very clean, everyone in my country drink tap water directly, more clean then bottled water

As told before I tested many different setups to heat my house cheap as very sad circumstances drained our economy.

I am very greatful to all of you, thanks to this divice our economy recovers good.

Kind rgds D

Hi Daemonbart,

What type of stainless steel are you using that is being corroded by your process?

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Slovenia]

Stainless

Hi Daemnbart,

Yes, this is a great device. I'm glad you are seeing success with it.

Can you take a digital photo of your device for us to see also? Many of us would like to see what you have. Anyway, if you have a digital camera, please take a photo of inside components and outside of the device you have for us to view. Thanks!!! Thanks for sharing with us.

Also, what polarity is your can, power or neutral?

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Hi!

I see no corrosion on my rings, mostly stainless 304, but cans of aluminium loose material rather fast. After running ac 1-2 h´s I see trough the can at the open end. Mostly under the ring. When running in open container ac 230V I can smell very little ozone and maybe some cloride.. Instead of beer cans I now use similar size of stainless containers, about 0,7mm thickness. My ring material mostly around 0,4 - 0,5 mm. With all stainless, no corrosion at all (ac). I have only used tap water, here very clean, everyone in my country drink tap water directly, more clean then bottled water

As told before I tested many different setups to heat my house cheap as very sad circumstances drained our economy.

I am very greatful to all of you, thanks to this divice our economy recovers good.

Kind rgds D

[MonsieurM]

just for your information stainless steel is used also for normal water heater


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[Duncan]

from water to mork & Mindy

Soooo Then I tried different water and … different things happen, I tried rain water, I tried the frost from around the fridge. I tried some water from a rain butt, even tried salt water I pondered what differences there may be in different tap waters in different countries what minerals and additives I even tried some fluoride mouth wash stuff in case your (lucky???) enough to have that in your water quite explosive pity I didn't have it on video for your amusement.
Water isn't anything I would normally bother studying as it doesn't have a head on it!! ,still here's just a little of a few hours surfing. First It would seem that rain water is very different from tap water It is among other things very rich in hydrogen which it picks up coming through the Ionosphere This is why it smells entirely different to tap water its ozone ..Its actually weak Hydrogen Peroxide It would seem in its concentrated form It has amazing curative properties (allegedly)

The Many Benefits of Hydrogen Peroxide By Dr. David G. Williams

As Water has no head I don’t spend very much time talking to it, Unlike bottles of wine and beer imagine my surprise in finding many people who do! With some odd results

Masaru Emoto - Water is Life ( NARRATIVE VERSION ) - YouTube

They eventually get the same results though .. the bottles talk back!

What of the additives for our benefit? Look at these guys strolling for their shower http://www.sacred-destinations.com/a...rchives-pd.jpg I'd like to think if I was in that situation I'd have the balls to try and take one of the bastards out, they could not their resistance was robbed, how ??
Fluoride Used by Nazis to Sterilize Inmates and Make Them Docile // Current TV
one wonders of course where Nazi Germany might have obtained huge amounts of Sodium fluoride in WW2 I would post a picture but Its one of America's hero's and I don’t want to go upsetting folks … still if you fancy bit of home work
The power that we use today has been corrupted by evil, It is not That Tesla's transmission system was evil it was not. Tesla was a Humanitarian . However he was effectively Hi-Jacked and then “owned” by evil, He realised very quickly his slight error and tried desperately to correct it. too late and Evil is a voracious wolf.

There was once a guy who took the study of water to the nth degree and boy did he do some amazing things I'll leave you in the hands of an aged but classic Borderlands science production for a while.
Nature Was My Teacher - The Vision of Viktor Schauberger on Vimeo

If – there is free power available from the third quadrant do keep in mind that it is also probable that E.S.P and time travel and aliens and flying saucers and all the other “hob goblins” have their origins in this quadrant . It is after all the same electrical system our bodies nerve and internal communication system uses. Tesla knew all about it, and what some friend's he discovered .. The Ray of Discovery - Nikola Tesla on Vimeo Note as you get nearer this Luminous etheric force your knowledge to understand and comprehend it will rapidly increase.. Others may have got there by other means and are not necessarily "good eggs"

Tesla as Tom Brown has told us had quite a lot to do with with JP Morgan .. In fact Tesla Tells us that JP once judged his weight to with in an ounce for a gamble. He could do this as he had worked in a slaughter house dispatching 1000s of hogs, he could judge “a carcass” to a penny weight
Mr “sub prime” of his day and really of today as well (if you think about it)
I like to know a little of the man, I can't really understand how this evil horror didn't hang for this alone...
One of his first deals nearly ended in disaster. The Civil War was just beginning when Morgan was approached by a man named Simon Stevens, who asked him to finance the refitting of 5,000 rifles known as Hall carbines for the Union army. Stevens arranged to purchase the guns, which the army had already declared obsolete. Once they were refitted, they were to be sold for $22 per rifle, about twice Steven’s cost, to Union Maj. Gen. John C. Frémont for his troops. J. P. Morgan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if that’s an American hero .. I'll stick with Andy capp.
Not that In Europe at the time there wasn't a lot of astrology and palm reading and automatic writing and wot not going on Maria Orsic 01
Maria Orsic and VRIL - YouTube there was, and there might have been a Roswell incident or there might not. And this likewise newworldhorizon's Channel - YouTube still it uses up a wet Sunday afternoon and food for thought
.anyway I love the delivery with the Draino think I’ve seen it else where though Mork and Mindy probably
..

[MonsieurM]

if you are interested in water;

this is a transfer from http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post154572

Water phase anomalies
Water has unusually high melting point.
Water has unusually high boiling point.
Water has unusually high critical point.
Solid water exists in a wider variety of stable (and metastable) crystal and amorphous structures than other materials.
The thermal conductivity of ice reduces with increasing pressure.
The structure of liquid water changes at high pressure.
Supercooled water has two phases and a second critical point at about -91°C.
Liquid water is easily supercooled but glassified with difficulty.
Liquid water exists at very low temperatures and freezes on heating.
Liquid water may be easily superheated.
Hot water may freeze faster than cold water; the Mpemba effect.
Warm water vibrates longer than cold water.


Water density anomalies
The density of ice increases on heating (up to 70 K).
Water shrinks on melting.
Pressure reduces ice's melting point.
Liquid water has a high density that increases on heating (up to 3.984°C).
The surface of water is more dense than the bulk.
Pressure reduces the temperature of maximum density.
There is a minimum in the density of supercooled water.
Water has a low coefficient of expansion (thermal expansivity).
Water's thermal expansivity reduces increasingly (becoming negative) at low temperatures.
Water's thermal expansivity increases with increased pressure.
The number of nearest neighbors increases on melting.
The number of nearest neighbors increases with temperature.
Water has unusually low compressibility. [Explanation]
The compressibility drops as temperature increases up to 46.5°C.
There is a maximum in the compressibility-temperature relationship.
The speed of sound increases with temperature up to 74°C.
The speed of sound may show a minimum.
'Fast sound' is found at high frequencies and shows an discontinuity at higher pressure.
NMR spin-lattice relaxation time is very small at low temperatures.
The NMR shift increases to a maximum at low (supercool) temperatures
The refractive index of water has a maximum value at just below 0°C.
The change in volume as liquid changes to gas is very large.

Water material anomalies
No aqueous solution is ideal.
D2O and T2O differ significantly from H2O in their physical properties.
Liquid H2O and D2O differ significantly in their phase behavior.
The mean kinetic energy of water's hydrogen atoms increases at low temperature.
Solutes have varying effects on properties such as density and viscosity.
The solubilities of non-polar gases in water decrease with temperature to a minimum and then rise.
The dielectric constant of water is high.
The dielectric constant shows a temperature maximum.
Proton and hydroxide ion mobilities are anomalously fast in an electric field.
The electrical conductivity of water rises to a maximum at about 230°C.
Acidity constants of weak acids show temperature minima.
X-ray diffraction shows an unusually detailed structure.
Under high pressure water molecules move further away from each other with increasing pressure.


Water thermodynamic anomalies
The heat of fusion of water with temperature exhibits a maximum at -17°C. [Explanation]
Water has over twice the specific heat capacity of ice or steam.
The specific heat capacity (CP and CV) is unusually high.
The specific heat capacity CP has a minimum at 36°C.
The specific heat capacity (CP) has a maximum at about -45°C.
The specific heat capacity (CP) has a minimum with respect to pressure.
The heat capacity (CV) has a maximum.
High heat of vaporization.
High heat of sublimation.
High entropy of vaporization.
The thermal conductivity of water is high and rises to a maximum at about 130°C.


Water physical anomalies
Water has unusually high viscosity.
Large viscosity increase as the temperature is lowered.
Water's viscosity decreases with pressure below 33°C.
Large diffusion decrease as the temperature is lowered.
At low temperatures, the self-diffusion of water increases as the density and pressure increase.
The thermal diffusivity rises to a maximum at about 0.8 GPa.
Water has unusually high surface tension.
Some salts give a surface tension-concentration minimum; the Jones-Ray effect.
Some salts prevent the coalescence of small bubbles.

don't forget to add the special properties of water seen in the documentary on water ...see http://www.energeticforum.com/152708-post377.html

[Duncan]

water

Thanks monsieurM -- I am reading through .. Its riviting stuff! and we just take it for granted .. I'll get back to electrocuting myself ....soon

[Slovenia]

Titanium Ring Material

.098mm Thickness
The titanium strip cuts really easy with just a pair of sharp regular scissors. I just marked a line with a fine tip magic marker where I needed to cut and the scissors did a perfect job.

I started out with a pair of tin snips and screwed up my first ring strip.

[RAMSET]

Got snowed Out.............

Daemonbart
perhaps if I was not so busy trying to keep my home from the wolves I would be enjoying more cost effective heat??

Just had to leave my lovely Domicile do to mother natures late autumn
snow storm [will most likely be Weeks without power]

Could you Daemonbart take pity on your fellow man and share a few specifics??

IE Diameter , length ETC.........?[perhaps you test Procedure?]

Starting tomorrow I will once again be in the bowels of a ship [at anchor] attempting to get her sea worthy !!

I am quite envious of your progress [and the time to replicate]!!
Anything you can share will help Many of our fellows to also have a nice warm winter!!

Thank you
Chet
\PS
Slovenia
I am just loving this thread!! So many cool guys sharing such amazing things!!
PPS
I can't believe you're cutting Titanium with Pasty scissors??[that has to be some kind of Over Unity?]

[Slovenia]

Titanium Cutting

Hi Chet,

Yes, I'm excited about the thread too. I had no idea a pair of scissors would cut titanium strip. Maybe what I was sold was not titanium after all. I hope it is but it was $4.25 per foot including shipping and that's really to good to be true for titanium strip. We'll have to wait and see about the results.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia
I am just loving this thread!! So many cool guys sharing such amazing things!!
PPS
I can't believe you're cutting Titanium with Pasty scissors??[that has to be some kind of Over Unity?]

[daemonbart]

Helping fellow man!

Helping out is important to me just as I have learned it is to to you my friends

I know we can go far in developing this and other devices united and supporting each other

It is really about safety only right now (saying that i guess is the same as uploading pics?)..

My experience about heating and cooling has grown from many years working hard, and I know you fellows do the same!

I am thinking about options to be atleast in some way invisible and sharing at the same time

I have got some advice about how to do that, I will work more on that later today.

My progress is depending mostly on my fantastic wife I think !

And without you guys i would not even know about this device!

I kind of used the "hit and miss" way to get it going.

I promise I will help out in some way

Kind rgds D