Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[Slovenia]

Latest Updated Diagram of Sonic Boiler (USA Version Only)

Sept. 10, 2011 Latest Upgraded Sonic Boiler Diagram: (For USA Only)

[boguslaw]

vamnacrtao

could be

vam na ???? = you on (private conversation maybe???)

either it is pure Serbian which I do not know or it is damaged sentence

I know Russian a bit and Serbian also sometimes are similiar but not always

[RAMSET]

I knew it!

Slovenia
We have to get the right beer can to start!

I'll do a "mock up"

Chet

[Slovenia]

Right Beer Can

Chet,

I agree, and I don't know how to do that. My contact appears to be through answering questions for the time being.

We only know the following:
1) You take a can of beer from 0.5 liters, the top cover otstranice.
2) Make a ring of iron sheet larger than 2.1mm diameter cans.

This guy is a Hell of a smart guy and 2.1mm doesn't make any sense to me. A 1/2 liter can of beer would be a big can of beer I'd think unless he's talking about a 1/2 liter six pack which is possible. He's probably referring to much smaller cans in a 1/2 liter six pack. The 2.1mm diameter makes no sense either unless that is the diameter of the ring at the top of the can which is possible. He did say to remove the top cover and sand the can. Maybe he means for the top cover to be removed leaving the top part of the can inverted inward instead of being cut off perpendicular from the bottom of the can. A beveled in top to the can would have a really different effect. It would work kind of like a 9mm shell casing. Anyway, I think we're on the right track and several heads is a lot better than one.

Thanks for your help and support!!!

Regards,
Slovenia

Slovenia
We have to get the right beer can to start!

I'll do a "mock up"

Chet

[MonsieurM]

Jelen pivo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jelen Pivo is a light beer produced by Apatin Brewery ltd. Jelen Pivo contains 5% alcohol, belongs to the class of light lagers, and is made of high-quality[clarification needed] hops, barley and yeast. Besides Serbia, Jelen Pivo can also be found on the markets of Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, as well as Switzerland, Austria and Sweden. It is known as a beer for men, followed by the slogan: „Men know why“.

Jelen Pivo is the leading product of the Apatin Brewery (established in 1756) and it is available on the market in the following packages: cans of 0.33 l and 0.5 l, non-returnable bottles of 0.33 l, (1 L and 2 L plastic bottles in Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia Montenegro and areas within the Balkan Region),

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Thanks Gordon!!

Jelen pivo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Slovenia]

.5 liter

The .5 liter can is what we're looking for. Where can we get them?
Thanks Gordon!!

Jelen pivo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[boguslaw]

0.5L cans are very popular in Europe but if that must be particular beer with not standarized rim - it would be hard task !

[Slovenia]

Standardized Rim

It's probably standardized rim. Thanks!!

0.5L cans are very popular in Europe but if that must be particular beer with not standarized rim - it would be hard task !

[RAMSET]

Thanks for the help

If you can believe this ,No beer or any alchohol for sale in Connecticut
on sundays [like the dark ages]

I'll be playing with a coke can today ,as EXnihiloest pointed out on the other thread Acoustic resonance "sonic" water heater "working replication"?
The materials involved will creat a "tolerance" issue [flimsy]

As MonsierurM pointed out we can try "MiCa" insulator?[insulator shim stock]

And as Core pointed out water in its purist form is an insulator,so the specific gravity will be an issue with the "gap"
Meaning HIS Gap in Serbia Maybe Different than My Gap in Timbuktoo.

Such is life.....its easy enough to play with!!

Chet

[Slovenia]

New Message from Contact

Contact Shared Again:

Sept. 11, 2011
What you supply area of the apartment, you calculate the width and thickness of the electrode, zero reba to resonate at 300 Hz. Fuse will die if you are using electricity for over 15 Amperes.

This latest information was necessary and helpful.

[Slovenia]

Screw Clamp

A screw clamp might make a good expedient ring to get started with. At least it would be an expedient method of finding the inside diameter for our ring.

[RAMSET]

So thats what he meant


Bless you core
you just saved me wasted work,plus you put this in a much brighter light
Ringing....................

WOW

Thanks
Chet
PS
YOu are IN NY Area have you seen his brand Beer in the deli?
I won't be in NY till mid week !

Thanks
Chet

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Core,

You are absolutely correct. It would appear like you said that tuning the beer can is the most important first step. Thanks!!

Regards,
Slovenia

According to your contact a beer can is not the only thing you can use. One only requirement appears to be that the metal fundamental resonate frequency of 60Hz or 50Hz. To get this the cylinder has to be honed/sanded until it rings.
This can be checked by mounting your cylinder on a rod next to a speaker that is sounding a 60Hz frequency. According to him if a nail is suspended very close to the open end it will ring when the can vibrates. The nail acts like an amplifier.

So step one, and the most important, is that the cylinder regardless of material used is 'tuned' to your line frequency. If this step is not completed everything else is a wash.

-Core

[Slovenia]

.5 liter European Beer Can

Chet,

One of my European contacts said that the .5 liter beer can is a standardized European size and that you can find European beers in cans like that all over US without going with a particular brand of beer. I was asking the same question.

Regards,
Slovenia

have you seen his brand Beer in the deli?
I won't be in NY till mid week !

Thanks
Chet