Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[bhaas]

with you on that, it is a possibility , it is the same principle used to break water into HHO

Huifang XU, et al -- Zn Oxide photoelectrolysis

Zn Oxide photoelectrolysis



if you can break it apart, you can heat it

Using those foggers that you can buy anywhere in an HHO chamber changes things dramatically.

[bhaas]

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Many years ago the author designed a greatly improved version of the Hubbard device. A prototype (according to
information imparted to the author by an individual who knew one of the individuals involved in the experiment)
produced sensational results. It was supposed to have put out so much current that the output coil disintegrated.
This particular design will not be given here because the application of a new principle can render all of the above
mentioned devices obsolete. This particular type of generator was hinted at in Chapter 14.

The experiments of Schauberger and others have confirmed the enormous and almost unlimited quantities of
electricity housed in water. The following is an absurdly simple and practical method of extracting this energy. It
employs the Coanda or cloud-buster effect. A plastic tube about 14" to 16" long and about 2.5" in diameter is
filled with distilled water. At each end, exposed to the water, are two copper terminals for both the output and input.

Rechargeable dry cells of suitable voltage are hooked up in series to the input terminals. When the two
output terminals are shorted or hooked up to a load electricity starts flowing. This is current entrained by the input
current. When high voltage is applied the output voltage is almost as great as the input voltage. However, the
amperage is inadequate. The answer to the dilemma is ultrasonics. It is an experimental fact ultrasound of
600,000 cycles focused on a vial of water can cause it to boil. This means that sound of this frequency
disintegrates large quantities of soft electrons in the water. The sudden release of hard electrons produces
tremendous thermal agitation of water molecules. A DC ultrasonic transducer attached to the tube would produce
sufficient free electrons to be entrained for the unit to have almost unlimited output potential. The tube functions
like a sounding board. The author has been given powerful evidence that two different individuals who received
the above information from him, got sensational results with the generator. They had access to such a
transducer. Unfortunately, the power elite, who have had this writer monitored 24 hours a day, have so far
managed to prevent him from acquiring one.

As for the two individuals mentioned above, greed and ego evidently took over. In any event, the vested interests
moved in and put them out of business. They have remained incommunicado ever since. An associate of the
author built a siren about the size of a large fist that generated a frequency of 600 000 cycles! When focused on
a small container of water, the water boiled! Obviously it could be used instead of a DC transducer on the water
generator. A small DC motor could operate the siren. It would be far more effective than a transducer since the
sound produced would have a higher intensity. There is also another advantage. With the siren the generator
could be produced at a lower cost. Transducers are expensive. The diagram in Fig. 31 shows how the described
generator can be built.

This is quoted from the book: "Joseph Cater - The Ultimate Reality"

[Slovenia]

Interesting Stuff!!

Interesting Stuff Bhass!!

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Many years ago the author designed a greatly improved version of the Hubbard device. A prototype (according to
information imparted to the author by an individual who knew one of the individuals involved in the experiment)
produced sensational results. It was supposed to have put out so much current that the output coil disintegrated.
This particular design will not be given here because the application of a new principle can render all of the above
mentioned devices obsolete. This particular type of generator was hinted at in Chapter 14.

The experiments of Schauberger and others have confirmed the enormous and almost unlimited quantities of
electricity housed in water. The following is an absurdly simple and practical method of extracting this energy. It
employs the Coanda or cloud-buster effect. A plastic tube about 14" to 16" long and about 2.5" in diameter is
filled with distilled water. At each end, exposed to the water, are two copper terminals for both the output and input.

Rechargeable dry cells of suitable voltage are hooked up in series to the input terminals. When the two
output terminals are shorted or hooked up to a load electricity starts flowing. This is current entrained by the input
current. When high voltage is applied the output voltage is almost as great as the input voltage. However, the
amperage is inadequate. The answer to the dilemma is ultrasonics. It is an experimental fact ultrasound of
600,000 cycles focused on a vial of water can cause it to boil. This means that sound of this frequency
disintegrates large quantities of soft electrons in the water. The sudden release of hard electrons produces
tremendous thermal agitation of water molecules. A DC ultrasonic transducer attached to the tube would produce
sufficient free electrons to be entrained for the unit to have almost unlimited output potential. The tube functions
like a sounding board. The author has been given powerful evidence that two different individuals who received
the above information from him, got sensational results with the generator. They had access to such a
transducer. Unfortunately, the power elite, who have had this writer monitored 24 hours a day, have so far
managed to prevent him from acquiring one.

As for the two individuals mentioned above, greed and ego evidently took over. In any event, the vested interests
moved in and put them out of business. They have remained incommunicado ever since. An associate of the
author built a siren about the size of a large fist that generated a frequency of 600 000 cycles! When focused on
a small container of water, the water boiled! Obviously it could be used instead of a DC transducer on the water
generator. A small DC motor could operate the siren. It would be far more effective than a transducer since the
sound produced would have a higher intensity. There is also another advantage. With the siren the generator
could be produced at a lower cost. Transducers are expensive. The diagram in Fig. 31 shows how the described
generator can be built.

[Slovenia]

Tuning Beer Can (Spray Foam)

Once we figure out the approximate tuned in area for a particular sized can, we can speed up the process of honing cans by spraying them full of foam insulation. When the foam hardens, it will keep the can very rigid until we have honed it to the proper point. When we're done honing, we just put a blow torch to the foam, and it will come right out of the can with no problems at all. Just wanted to share this. Since you won't know where to tune it on the first can, you probably don't want to use this method because it might take several attempts of reloading the can with foam and then taking the foam out to check and see if you got the 60 Hz tuning right.

[RAMSET]

Humor us

bhaas

Have you ever seen or heard of a device specificaly built to resonate at this frequency in water?
Your help in the replication would be appreciated
obviously you have an opinion !

The kind of help we would like is Vetting this device asap.

Tuning question
When I tuned for swr on transmiters it was not the volumn but the length that mattered [to an extent]

Core feels the "Mass" is where the Tune lays?

I thought to shave the Length?[sand],

Is it both?

Chet

[MonsieurM]

Resonance Tube: Velocity of Sound

Resonance Tube: Velocity of Sound

Object: To observe the resonance phenomenon in an open ended cylindrical tube. To use the resonance to determine the velocity of sound in air at ordinary temperatures.

Introduction: The velocity with which sound travels in any medium may be determined if the frequency and the wavelength are known

Tesla Sees Evidence Radio and Light Are Sound

Tesla Sees Evidence Radio and Light Are Sound -Apr 8, 1934

[bhaas]

QUOTE=RAMSET

Have you ever seen or heard of a device specificaly built to resonate at this frequency in water?
No I haven't.

Your help in the replication would be appreciated
obviously you have an opinion !
That's about all I have regarding this. I have no way of really working on anything at the moment. Lost house and shop in 2006.

The kind of help we would like is getting this device asap.
All I can offer right now are ideas.

Tuning question
When I tuned for swr on transmiters it was not the volumn but the length that mattered [to an extent]

Core feels the "Mass" is where the Tune lays?

I thought to shave the Length?[sand],

Is it both?

Isn't there some math somewhere regarding wavelengths and sizes? Tuning forks for instance come to mind now that I think about it. I'd start there. Look for patterns...


Chet

[MonsieurM]

with you on that, it is a possibility , it is the same principle used to break water into HHO

Huifang XU, et al -- Zn Oxide photoelectrolysis

Zn Oxide photoelectrolysis



if you can break it apart, you can heat it

from the same article:

The researchers, led by UW-Madison geologist and crystal specialist Huifang Xu, grew nanocrystals of two common crystals, zinc oxide and barium titanate (quartz is just as good ), and placed them in water. When pulsed with ultrasonic vibrations, the nanofibers flexed and catalyzed a chemical reaction to split the water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen. UW-Madison Mechanical Engineering Professor Xiaochun Li lent theoretical and experimental expertise to the ultrasonic vibrations part of the research.

bhaas post:

The answer to the dilemma is ultrasonics. It is an experimental fact ultrasound of
600,000 cycles focused on a vial of water can cause it to boil. This means that sound of this frequency
disintegrates large quantities of soft electrons in the water. The sudden release of hard electrons produces
tremendous thermal agitation of water molecules. A DC ultrasonic transducer attached to the tube would produce
sufficient free electrons to be entrained for the unit to have almost unlimited output potential. The tube functions
like a sounding board.

ps: the 300hz for the ring maybe pulsed Dc

Pulsed DC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pulsed DC or PDC is the form of wave produced from a half-wave rectifier or a full-wave rectifier. Full wave rectified ac is more commonly known as Rectified AC. PDC has some characteristics of both alternating current (AC) and direct current (DC) waveforms. The voltage of a DC wave is roughly constant, whereas the voltage of an AC waveform continually varies between positive and negative values. Like an AC wave, the voltage of a PDC wave continually varies, but like a DC wave, the sign of the voltage is constant.

[MonsieurM]

when the ring hits a certain frequency it starts to emit ultra sound

If you place an iron rod in a dark room and cause it to vibrate at first you'll only be able to tell it is vibrating by touching it.

Increasing the vibration to 32Hz will produce a loud and shrill sound and vibration can now be detected by both touch and hearing. Increase that vibration to 40Hz and you can no longer detect the vibration by touch or sound.

If you increase the vibration to 1.5MHz you cannot feel or hear the vibration but you can detect the vibration though the rise in temperature in the iron first warm and then the iron rod will glow red hot and can be detected by sight.

At 3MHz the rod is now producing violet light; increasing the vibration more will produce ultra-violet rays and other invisible radiations that can only be detected by special instruments.

There are so many "vibrations" flowing all around us that are invisible to our 5 senses who can tell how they affect us. Uranium emits and invisible radiation that will kill you. You cannot see it but it is there and kills. Who is to say how the other radiation affects the body and mind.

Isn't it possible that the mind radiates its own wireless transmissions that are received by other minds but we just are unaware of that as of yet[/. There is no scientific proof for or against this theory, yet so many people will just to the conclusion that it cannot exist. There are among the same people that would have disbelieved radio existed before it was proven that is does exist.

You MUST keep an open mind and use these methods as those successful have already used them to achieve success. Who are you willing to believe, those who have not succeeded or those who have?

Dr. Alexander Graham Bell

[RAMSET]

Thanks Bhaas

Your Ideas are very Cool,Gordon's contributions are awesome also!

I'm going to just try and ring the can the way Core and the "contact" said to tune it!

Once I get my "tuning rig" figured I'll be seeking advice on how to transmit the frequency Loudly?

Thanks
Chet

[MonsieurM]

thanks RAMSET

i would just like to add: and you should read it because it applies as well to water (on a higher frequency; higher octave )

Acoustic resonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Resonance of a tube of air

The resonance of a tube of air is related to the length of the tube, its shape, and whether it has closed or open ends. Musically useful tube shapes are conical and cylindrical (see bore). A pipe that is closed at one end is said to be stopped while an open pipe is open at both ends. Modern orchestral flutes behave as open cylindrical pipes; clarinets and lip-reed instruments (brass instruments) behave as closed cylindrical pipes; and saxophones, oboes, and bassoons as closed conical pipes. Vibrating air columns also have resonances at harmonics, like strings.
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Cylinders

By convention a rigid cylinder that is open at both ends is referred to as an "open" cylinder; whereas, a rigid cylinder that is open at one end and has a rigid surface at the other end is referred to as a "closed" cylinder.

A closed cylinder will have approximate resonances of


where "n" here is an odd number (1, 3, 5...). This type of tube produces only odd harmonics and has its fundamental frequency an octave lower than that of an open cylinder (that is, half the frequency).

A more accurate equation is given below:



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[MonsieurM]

Consider air as as being in higher state of frequency than water; so for a higher frequency state to reach resonance you only need a low level of excitation where as for water being in a lower state of vibration you need a higher level of vibration....

[QUOTE]

thanks RAMSET

i would just like to add: and you should read it because it applies as well to water (on a higher frequency; higher octave )

Acoustic resonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[MonsieurM]

Core is quite correct, this is an efficient heater (theoretically for now until replicated), the gain is in the amount of energy utilized to heat water, which means lower energy bills

[Slovenia]

Other Inventor

Core,

The device we are studying now was designed by another inventor in Europe who studied the Davey device. It is quite different than the Davey device. It is not a free energy device. It is used as a cheaper method of heating a room in Europe. Thanks for sharing!!

Peter Davey admitted to leaving details out of his information on his sonic boiler so nobody would be able to replicate it. He wanted to manufacture and sell his but was never allowed to by his government.

Regards,
Slovenia

Just a reminder to everyone. Lets not forget that this is not a free energy device. This device does draw amps. From the pictures I have seen they are somewhere between 2 and 7 amps.

The question is 'For the amount of power it draws does it heat a given amount of water faster and with less power then traditional/current devices?'

Also the current pictures shown on this thread are not Davey's design but from another inventor. Davey never spoke about any other frequency then 50Hz as far as I know.

Davey also hand sanded his bowls until they resonated at 50Hz.

-Core

[wrtner]

I don't believe it will resonate at the same frequency in water as in air

It seems odd but I think it does. The resonant frequency depends
on the geometry of the device and material only.

It is easy to check with a tuning fork. Does a tuning fork tuned to "A", 440hz,
sound the same under water?