Peter Daysh Davey Water Heater Query

[evolvingape]

Hi,

Speed of sound in water and air:

Speed of Sound Formulas

“The sound travels faster through media with higher elasticity and/or lower density. If a medium is not compressible at all - incompressible - the speed of sound is infinite (c ≈ ∞). “

Density - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Properties of water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Density of air - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Speed of sound - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Underwater acoustics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are TWO phenomenons occurring in this device, the speed of sound and the speed of light. Both will relate via wavelength harmonics, with unknown effects. The speed of sound propagates through an elastic medium, the speed of light (AC electricity) will propagate through the molecular structure(s) because electricity is an electromagnetic phenomenon the same as light. This is one reason why the gap between electrodes may be so important because light operates with wavelength on the nanoscale and a tiny tolerance may have a huge effect on the system.

Electronics 101 - Fundamentals of Electricity - Lesson 24 - Characteristics of a Sine Wave

Maxwell's equations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Relation between electricity, magnetism, and the speed of light
The relation between electricity, magnetism, and the speed of light can be summarized by the modern equation:

c = \frac{1}{\sqrt{\mu_0 \varepsilon_0}} \ .

(Scroll down to “History” section to view equation, cannot reproduce here)

“The left-hand side is the speed of light, and the right-hand side is a quantity related to the equations governing electricity and magnetism. Although the right-hand side has units of velocity, it can be inferred from measurements of electric and magnetic forces, which involve no physical velocities. Therefore, establishing this relationship provided convincing evidence that light is an electromagnetic phenomenon.”

That is all I have time for at the moment, my break is over

Rob

P.S. If anyone notices that the heat of vaporisation at waters supercritical point of 374C is 2.066 Kj/mol and that the heat of vaporisation at 100C is 40.657 Kj/mol and realises this is an energy input required ratio of 1:20 and has the bright idea of putting an electrode boiler into a pressure cooker they must be 100% certain NO FREE HYDROGEN is going to be produced in the reaction. If they are not sure and go ahead and do it anyway it may very well be this years winner of a Darwin award!

The Darwin Awards 2012

[MonsieurM]

If I may add my little grain of salt


a little Analogy for you

Think of water and air as two notes / elements existing on the same harmonic scale (think Walter Russel Table of Elements ) ...except that one is on a higher octave than the other

fyi: unless you live in the sun (and even the sun creates water )...there is water all around you (and in you )

[PhysicsProf]

Thank you for comments, Slovenia and Prof Savic in particular.

Sometimes I feel misunderstood -- but I guess that is understandable.

However, let me reiterate that as a scientist and well-studied in the history of science, I must re-emphasize the importance of actual EXPERIMENTS AND MEASUREMENTS.

If I am privileged to do actual tests on a device that is claimed to have COP > 1 (I prefer to say Eout / Ein > 1), then I must do careful measurements of both the input energy and output energy. My colleagues and I would use more than one method of measurement, if possible.
With regard to the Davey/Savic type of device -- Working closely with a colleague, we plan to start with a measurement of the input energy using an energy or power meter, such as the "kill-a-watt" meter described in my post of experimental results above. The output energy would be determined calorimetrically, that is, we would measure the temperature rise of the water in the water-heater, and calculate
Q = Cp X mass X (temp-final - temp-initial).

I may not understand fully the modus operandi of the device, nevertheless if the results show Eout/Ein > 1 (as measured), we must report the results to the world!

Again, as scientist, if the results turn out to be less than unity, we would feel obliged to be honest and report these results also.

That's the nature of scientific inquiry, and it is not complete until someone qualified --BESIDES THE INVENTOR-- tests the device and presents the results of the tests to the world.

I would be glad to hear comments on my approach, which I believe adheres to the scientific method.

[PhysicsProf]

Hi,

I think we are talking of this guy??

Dipole (Anti)Gravity, Magnetic Gravity, true Gravitomagnetism

Br D

Certainly an interesting article, Br D. Thanks for calling attention to it.

Yes, the EXPERIMENTAL DATA regarding the speed of neutrinos is currently CHALLENGING ESTABLISHED THEORY -- and I love it!
This is how the world progresses. I have been following the saga quite carefully for months.

As usual, "Theory guides, but experiment decides."

[PhysicsProf]

As I emailed to D just now:

[snip]And please don't mention neutrinos! although in the news because of the speed-of-light experiments with neutrinos, neutrinos just do not interact much with a few liters of water -- at all! Something like one interaction in a hundred years (in 3 litres of water).

One doesn't need to explain WHERE the energy is coming from -- straightforward experimental data will be compelling enough to generate interest and support. [snip]

Later we can do the experiments to find out WHERE the energy is coming from.

Look guys, I performed experiments inside the Kamioka neutrino detector in Japan several years back. I know from experimental data how rarely neutrinos interact with water.

WE will enjoy looking elsewhere (besides neutrinos) for an explanation of this remarkable effect -- when we get it to occur repeatably and reliably.

[PhysicsProf]

Attached is a drawing of the huge Kamioka Neutrino Detector in Japan, where I did research years ago.

I remember waking up in the winter in my little flat there, with ice crystals from my breath on the blanket.

Anyway, it strikes me as interesting that this Kamioka detector looks a wee bit like a DAVEY device... just VERY large!

[Duncan]

Thanks for pointing that out Steve ...

Chet

I hate it when links dry up (for whatever reason) simply to put the information back here's the videos tracked down to alternate links for your information
This is a still of Floyd sweets machine...
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...2520floyyd.png
and the rest are self explanatory pretty much
New Free Energy by George Mitchell - YouTube

NEW EARTH DAY DEMO - New Multi Coil Stator Ring - YouTube

Ottawa University TORQUE PARADIGMS Regenerative Acceleration Generator vs Conventional Generator.mov - YouTube

F.M.CHALKALIS ENERGY MULTIPLIER - YouTube

and the tuner Antenna Tuning Unit

all seems a little out of context now stiill .... regards Duncan

[PhysicsProf]

Thanks, Duncan.

I also want to thank Prof Savic for being willing to share, including tests of his Davey device. I would like to speak more of this later, with his permission.

For now, it is past midnight and I will sleep!

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Can you describe it further ? I'm ready to try to build this magnetic amplifier to regulate current from my power socket into sonic boiler.I have a yoke ferrite core from dismounted from old pc monitor.Would it be good one for it ? I know that the essence is to have proper winding directions so AC voltage do not occur on 9V side, can you post any link to successful building of such magnetic amplifier with instructions ?

Hi

First off, I am in France, had to sign myself out of hospital as my brother inlaw was found dead in his flat in the north of France, today is the funeral.

The magnetic amplifier is made up of two separate transformers, it must not be all on one core as it works as an out of phase saturation of the cores. It is conected as shown in the circuit, the pot varies the amount of saturation of the cores, amplification can be up to 100 times when using the diodes as shown.

I think this will work very well with what you are doing, I have not tested this with your application, but with a light bulb it works as I have stated "resistive load".

Mike

[osamaricu_te]

Sir
With all respect Your handle that you use here seems strange?
I try not to judge a book by its cover .

We are an open source community ,people that come to these pages
I have known most of them a long time ...as does Slovenia.

Persons that share their hard work here have a certain Quality that is usually reflected in how they Speak, Their handles [forum names] ETC
You seem a bit out of line with what I have come to expect from the benevolent men and women that come here to make this world a better place?

A little Off To Me...................

Can you explain your handle [forum name] Please?

Thank you
Chet

I make it a rule to try and accommodate anyone asking nicely, so I will extend the same rule to you.
I made this account few months a go, while my reading of EF goes much longer. At that time I must have been in a good mood and being extremely immature person at certain aspects for my age and status (I train that part of me on daily basis to keep it that way, playing games and being childish with my kids at some points), I used this nick... Now if you were to ask me WHY, dont really know and who cares? Does it say something to you, perhaps me not being benevolent...?

Now to more important matters, been doing some tests last night, with 2 frequencies. Used 4 plates this time, they were thin but too thick to get any "sound" response from them with my amplifier, so I turned 2 plates in "dummy" plates and again I got around unity response.

Then I used 4 different plates, made of aluminum, VERY thin. Those responded with my amplifier very nicely, BUT to keep up with power from socket at 50Hz, I turned my amplifier to the very end. It seems I pushed this amplifier a bit more than he can handle :P

So in the end, I got no particular news to report other than being 2 amplifiers short now.
Both burned out. Feel sorry about this last one, it was a strong one, bought for this

Anyway, will stop here, try to think about another approach. Should I get any ideas, will post here.

bb for now

[Slovenia]

Mr. "C" Message to Professor Jones

Professor Jones,
You will soon have in your possession Tesla's secret termo resonance high technology.
Please Apply cleverly nikakao the military and war against the purposes of wildlife on the planet.
The amount of energy in the vacuum is infinite it is constantly being revised and circulated.
Black holes devouring matter in the universe and transformed into neutrinos (high frequency), and the stars in the universe is re-created and translated into a (low frequency)
Further explanations will give you how to measure COP sonic boiler and mount the dish with water.
When you get the sonic boiler (Quantum heater) because it takes energy from the quantum field let me know.
prof.Savić, Serbia

[PhysicsProf]

Professor Jones,
You will soon have in your possession Tesla's secret termo resonance high technology.
Please Apply cleverly nikakao the military and war against the purposes of wildlife on the planet.
The amount of energy in the vacuum is infinite it is constantly being revised and circulated.
Black holes devouring matter in the universe and transformed into neutrinos (high frequency), and the stars in the universe is re-created and translated into a (low frequency)
Further explanations will give you how to measure COP sonic boiler and mount the dish with water.
When you get the sonic boiler (Quantum heater) because it takes energy from the quantum field let me know.
prof.Savić, Serbia

It is an exciting time -- and I thank Prof Savic for being willing to share his device -- which is being sent to a fellow energy researcher in western Europe for further testing, at my request. (It is not being sent to the US at this time.) Thank you Slovenia.

I look forward to the "further explanations", especially how to mount the dish in water.

Thank you sincerely, Professor Savic! And I also thank and acknowledge the contributions of the many researchers working on this New Energy Technology throughout the world!

[AhuraMazda]

A couple of videos from witts that I had not seem before:

[www.witts.ws] WITTS Hemisphere Quantum Fuelless Generator - Demo #2 - YouTube

WITTS Hemisphere Quantum Fuelless Generator - Demo #1 [www.witts.ws] - YouTube

[daemonbart]

Inverter

Hi AM!

I am working with IGBT modules from scrap inverter heat-pumps. My first and working setup is from other components but will be hard to replicate, and expensive.

The IGBT modules are perfect for our use in boiler, I guess I will blow some of them from start

I hope some of us could work in open source with the setup

I want to say also, this inverter driver will not alone make sonic boiler OU!

The inverter is a good start for many of you I think!

I hope to start a thread dedicated for this later today!

Kind rgds D

So, do you have a variable frequency inverter or are you doing it with a car alternator+motor+variac?

Regards

M

[RAMSET]

Thank you for doing this !!

Mr. D

This will be an Opportunity to expand our knowledge of the world around us !
Professor Savic Has opened a door that will not be closed!
For this we will be forever grateful !!

I have been driven with a personal goal to leave this world a better place than I found it, And I know many other men and women here feel the same way.
We will do everything we can to assist in any way possible for this knowledge to be shared Open Source!!


Thank you
Chet
PS
Water hides some very simple secrets
I love simplicity.... and so does My Father [the one upstairs]