Neat little Motor Generator

[ashtweth]

Hey Guys

Sorry guys but at this time I'm not able to give out any details to how it works. Its just a novelty toy, I'm not making any claims of any kind. Just wanted to show you what I've been working on, a couple of you have said I've never built anything before so I thought I'd finally post a video. Please don't let this distract you from your own projects. There are a lot of you out there that have more talent and knowledge than I do, so keep up the good work!

Mark

Thank you Mark for your contribution and update. Well done, such a simple looking answer to the Bedini area. Given the nature of this report i am sure you are aware that you have our greatest respect and interests to understand what you are showing us. Mark i am sure you can appreciate that mentioning such a thing will always have a cause and effect, plus should only be done for an ethical reason.

There is always a reason behind such disclosures, All of us have been here for years , the "look at me" is not the WHY we are here .

I am sure you have never seen us show you some thing "just to show you", and have no reason not to report where we are going with it, IE-open source, sales etc. I am sure Mark you can reason WHY we would never consider exhibition practical in a forum which has loyal people who have known and trusted each other for years -And who are here to share and build Human needs over corporate greed, .

Occupy wall street going on, Greece , financial melt down, these times are not the same my friend, such a device can create security and change the times.

Given this point, i would like you to re consider your report in all its implications and to attempt to understand that all we have given over the years has been for a reason, and i am sure it has been useful to you. If you have this same respect for us here, please consider answering in detail how your system is run and at least your intentions.

Thank you Mark.
In respect
Ash

[toranarod]

Even the opposite, so far he dont commit it works, you can consider it as a kind of a Hoax.
May be more save for more People then the other way around.


But at last a Part list would be nice anyway.

I am very sad. we all hope for this, dream of this and when we see it just out of our reach. Do you know how that makes us feel? Please don't tease us its to pain full
When will the day come that somebody who shows such an amazing device will just tell every body how its done. why is its always like this.
It looks so impressive . To you mark well done is it as they say beginners luck.
I am sad and excited there is still a way we can do this. you got the attention of Romero with this one. I saw it first on his post.

[toranarod]

Thank you Mark for your contribution and update. Well done, such a simple looking answer to the Bedini area. Given the nature of this report i am sure you are aware that you have our greatest respect and interests to understand what you are showing us. Mark i am sure you can appreciate that mentioning such a thing will always have a cause and effect, plus should only be done for an ethical reason.

There is always a reason behind such disclosures, All of us have been here for years , the "look at me" is not the WHY we are here .

I am sure you have never seen us show you some thing "just to show you", and have no reason not to report where we are going with it, IE-open source, sales etc. I am sure Mark you can reason WHY we would never consider exhibition practical in a forum which has loyal people who have known and trusted each other for years -And who are here to share and build Human needs over corporate greed, .

Occupy wall street going on, Greece , financial melt down, these times are not the same my friend, such a device can create security and change the times.

Given this point, i would like you to re consider your report in all its implications and to attempt to understand that all we have given over the years has been for a reason, and i am sure it has been useful to you. If you have this same respect for us here, please consider answering in detail how your system is run and at least your intentions.

Thank you Mark.
In respect
Ash

once again. I said what Ash just said

I am very sad. we all hope for this, dream of this and when we see it just out of our reach. Do you know how that makes us feel? Please don't tease us its to pain full
When will the day come that somebody who shows such an amazing device will just tell every body how its done. why is its always like this.
It looks so impressive . To you mark well done is it as they say beginners luck.
I am sad and excited there is still a way we can do this. you got the attention of Romero with this one. I saw it first on his post.

[hello_all]

at 5:42 he said 2 coils are kit coils ..and other 2 are different configuration, different cores and aligning them with magents on top.. i assume it needs a load of small led/ lamp to run.. so it runs upto 3000 rpm.. good that rick did not put selfrunner or overunity in title.. good work!! congrats.. at 7:00 he says this thing runs for ever and ever...

[hello_all]

in july ending mark said "Hey Guys,

I have for the first time been able to see rotor speeds increase when shorting a coil out. Was a very simple setup, I have Ricks Classic 3-Pole kit. I was just runinng a simple SSG circuit to get my rotor up to 3,000 rpm's. Then I took the supplied generator coil and mounted it on the frame but instead of bolting it down normally I flipped it upside down so the coils is 1.75 inches away from th erotor instead of .25 inches.

Then I inserted some 3.5 in. welding rods down thru the coil and about .35 in. from the rotor. This of course lowered the rotor speed to 2823.

If I short the coil out the rotor speed increases to 2844. Not a big increase but easy to replicate if you have the same kit. It worked with many different starting speeds for me.

If I attach a load to the coil the rotor does slow down though" ---- maybe this is a big clue !!!

[toranarod]

just a thought and its only a thought so don't stop on my paranoia.

being a kit before the modification that made this possible. lucky to be the owner who manufactures the kit. or is that just me?

[Joit]

I am sad and excited there is still a way we can do this. you got the attention of Romero with this one. I saw it first on his post.

The Mylows and the other Storys around brought me to the Point where i am.
Before 2 Years was an Event close to me, where they showed Inventions at the FE Sector and a Car what did run on or with Water.
At this Weekend, Saturday morning, they come with 2 Attornys and Police, and confiscated the Car. And that, when they are yelling on the same Time very loud at the Politic anywhere for the 'Green Ways'.
Lately i heared a Story from someone, that someone else invented before a while a Watercar in East-Europe too, but he been told to shut up and be quit, and care about his Family. I did not even hear from the Story, that there was something like that, and i am in Europe.
Anywhere else in Europe another Inventor has a small Box, where he could get out 1kw Power, but his Name was never disclosed nor any Details from this Device.
Plus, Silvertogold is right, when he says, this Forum is monitored, not only from couple milehighs, what -only- think, they have a Clue, but not even know, how to drive a Mosfet, neither how to show it on a scope, but think, they can play the smart a**es, but also from other Guys, what are out to make a business or 'take care about the national Security'.
But gladly we are at the Moment save of them, thanks to the Admins here.
For now, i cant feel bad at someone anymore, when he dont yell to loud about something unusual, because i dont believe in a fair World anymore.
But what you all Guys do lately is something more what anyone can be proud of.
Because a lot can get off their chains what they did become over the Time, and that is, what i call Progress.

[Slider2732]

Yeah Rod, was thinking the same..John will either be ecstatic or very angry ! Not much can be inbetween eh

*Edit* Here here to Joit, great point of view

[Farmhand]

I guess by posting a video like that one would expect some pressure to reveal.

I think this song says it all for us.
Queen - 'Under Pressure' - YouTube

We all feel the pressure of different things, but to make any real change we
probably need to work together.

I think the general opinion here is we know one way or the other.

Cheers

[quantumuppercut]

I think this is a big chance for us. We should train how to react to news and judge the situation. Mark made a good move by saying it's just neat. He did not claim OU so why push him to claim OU? He did not say it's fake so why think him of being fake. This way, we don't put too much stress and attention on him and more importantly... on yourself. Even if this is real, doesn't mean it can be replicated easily or Mark understands how it works. But if you must, judge a man by his consistency and always leave room for being wrong. I don't believe in short cuts although I have to say the motor looks cute, Rod's experimentation approach still the best. If you have an OU machine and don't know how to fix it, how is it even safe to be put on the market. If it meant to come, it'll come.

[Jetijs]

If I would have to fake it, I would hide a 9v battery and small transistor inside one fake coil. You just use a cylindrical form and wind several layers of wire on the perimeter so that it looks like a coil. And top the visible end off with a big ceramic magnet as in the video. It can easily be done. Then you use one of the other real coils as a trigger source, the other coil for powering the wheel and the third one just as a separate coil with the light as a load. Simple. No one has ever hidden a power source in a coil, at least as far as I know

[garrypm]

Hi all,

For those of you lucky enough to alreaady own a Bedini three coiler, I would like to ask a coulpe of questions -

1. How many magnets are in the rotor
2. Size of the rotor
3. size and shape of the magnets in the rotor.

Thanks, Garry

[ashtweth]

If I would have to fake it, I would hide a 9v battery and small transistor inside one fake coil. You just use a cylindrical form and wind several layers of wire on the perimeter so that it looks like a coil. And top the visible end off with a big ceramic magnet as in the video. It can easily be done. Then you use one of the other real coils as a trigger source, the other coil for powering the wheel and the third one just as a separate coil with the light as a load. Simple. No one has ever hidden a power source in a coil, at least as far as I know

After Mylow, Romero and others, i suggest we have a post criteria and rules needed to be followed to post before people can post about this in future what do you think bro?

Rod worked his butt off, and where is Romero?, still talking BS as far as i am concerned. Is Mark in this category?, lets stop it at the source.

Ash

[mbrownn]

HaHaHa Well done mark

I have been telling them how to do it on my threads but noone was listening.

You are recycling the pulse by sending the kickback to the source and topping it up with a generator coil. The magnets are there to increase inductance by saturating the cores, that's all. The only reason you have to reach such high speed is because of internal resistance. Build bigger coils of lower resistance and it will work better.

Its not rocket science. This is Rick Fredricks self running Bedini circuit.

Well done mate and you got there first to show a working unit.

Now if you want to do it bigger you can do a bigger one of these or build a lockridge circuit. Regenerative circuits to reduce the input while running the motor at the same power and then topping up the losses from the generating coil. Easy in theory but the parts have to be matched.

Don't be a septic guys, pun intended, replicate his and my work.

[Farmhand]

Well, No info means we can speculate freely. That how I see it.

Jetijs might have got it right, myself I would maybe use two or three "C" cell
batts so the voltage was low and speed up slow.

But I've read quite a good explanation of how it could be done with a capacitor
no battery, and it could be discovered by accident with no intention to deceive.

It goes something like three generator coils in series one motor/trigger coil.
The three generator coils charge the cap but no triggering until the rotor is
spun up fast enough to trigger the transistor, by this time the cap has some
juice to charge the motor coil ( put there by hand turning ) so there would be
a reserve of energy to assist for a period the turning of the rotor. With an
initial slow speed up and slow speed down over a reasonable period.

I can link the post if anyone wants to read it.

However this doesn't make any sense to me because of the lack of circuitry
and no FWBR and I can't see any capacitor. Why hide the circuit ? Unless
hiding the circuit negates the need to hide "X" wire's. No circuit no need to
worry about "X" wire's.

All this plus no initial explanation, and no further info whatsoever tells me this
is a very strange video.

Also considering showing under the table and so forth points to him "implying"
Free energy or OU.

Considering all this I think we should consider this a challenge to work out
how he did it and do our own "fake" fakes to show how easy it could be done.

Nip it in the Bud. I agree with that. Too many of us put in too
much hard work to be compromised by these unsubstantiated claims or
insinuations. It reflects on all of us.

People making genuinely mistaken claims are a different matter entirely.