Small Mag motor demo

[SilverToGold]

Well gentlemen, I think this is a fake.

In the first video, the item that looks like a big electrolytic cap is really hiding a battery. That extra "transistor" or whatever it is, basically just looks like some sort of plug for the battery (ie "electrolytic cap").

The second video basically demonstrates that it's a battery as he hooks it up to the motor. Notice how he shows a 1.5V battery and measures it's voltage but doesn't do anything with it.... he's saying "It's a battery! (ie the mysterious metallic can he connects up to his "generator")"

I wish some people would find better things to do with their time than make useless misinformation videos on such a serious topic.

Thanks Mark for posting yours, at least you told the truth without to long of a delay and it's good to keep us suspicious of claims without proof or that don't explains exactly what's going on.

[nueview]

when i first saw these videos i posted them for others to see as food for thought and one of the guys in our group even went so far as to try to build a smst unit as shown.

the first thing he learned was that any iron or steel would make the neo magnets draw to it and even several feet away spinning one would spin the other on a china plate it could happen as far as 4 feet away.

in all the older CRT computer monitors there is a degaussing coil that runs around the screen face as i watch the sphere it is traveling to and away from that monitor screen it is not more than a foot away. also the coil is still flashing the LED and for such a precise placement it is sure lighting pretty good for now beeing placed so far away.

i am not sure the circuit is not an add on to the video as it was not on the original that i saw. we did some testing around this point and it seemed that it is totally wrong we got better results letting one coil charge the cap and then used a reed switch to pulse fire the cap for one cycle then it would time to the sphere pole position and fire again even if the cycle was short it would drive the magnet to add some inputous.

the iron core worked best at the far end of the coil set back from the front so as to balance the field attraction to the core iron and coil repulsion. spinning a magnet on a plate does not provide much stability and i would recommend the shaft method from the other video.

the videos are good for opening a discusion bash it tear it apart and then think it through and work it out.
i do believe this is do able as our project has run for up to 2 minutes so it is getting better but it needs allot of help in the triggering department and some unconventional wiring.
Martin

[garrypm]

Take a closer look at the left side upright -

[nueview]

yes i had mentioned this in the other thread it looks like a hidden read switch but that is just my thought on it all.

Martin

[nueview]

going after something new? watch this video this is something i have run into several times and really is interesting to see as it is not normal power.
Martin

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hope you all enjoy this!

[realmikel]

Gary pm Sharp eye yet I do not see your point? What ever you feel the pictures shows I have yet to see how it attaches to the coils? It is possible that crossing the clear plastic are wires I do not see when he turns the object up so that you can see the parts on top. Please use your eagle eyes and ability to pull pics from the movie to show us how he went from the stick and attached to any part of the circuit? I would be most grateful if you would do that. If you can not find any way of connecting across the plastic still doesn't indicate something is wrong yet it would make your statement more believable. Nothing personal, I simply struggle with some of the perspectives I have heard on this issue since it clearly indicates a lack of understanding of electrical circuits. I understand your point that the stick is not round and that could easily be hiding something. Yet I would expect to find a connection to the coils if this was a real perspective. Otherwise unround sticks do not make this a hoax even if it is a hoax. I know how to fake things even to the point of using the meter leads to add current to the system so I was impressed when he demonstrated that the the only outside wires ( meter wires) actually only worked to measure the battery and fell to 0 when removed from any connections. Still I understand a good hoaxer could fake that also. I am simply asking if you call it a hoax explain in detail how it is a hoax? Two springs attaching a magnetic relay that no one recognizes and many call a battery does not count as a hoax until you show where the relay is or transistor that commutates the circuit. I see your lumps on the stick now where do they attach to the circuit?

[garrypm]

Hi Mikel,

Sorry, I was not trying to prove this a fake. Only looking to see how it "PULSES".

I will, when I get a chance, take a better screen shot and post it.

If you only knew how much I would love to have ANY self running device.
Have even considered backtracking to build a window motor but, playing with
Matt's TS at the moment.

Thanks, Garry

[142857]

self running window motors are as fake as this little thing.


it's cool though.

[Guest]

[realmikel]

Thanks for your perspective. I agree that the cylinder is a magnet based on his earlier videos and would most likely have the north pole aimed at one coil while the south pole would be aimed at the other coil If he is using one coil to generate a magnetic field and catching it when it collapses then it would make a certain amount of sense that since it will be reversed polarity it would feed the coil at the opposite pole with the correct polarity to push ( create the torque as you said) the motor to turn.

What your calling three connections seems to be a misunderstanding between us. A transistor usually requires three connections to one object. I see 4 diodes which appear to me to be connected as pairs in parallel which helps lower capacitance and over all voltage losses to bias the diode, items which might affect the circuit. . I observed these connections best a locations .08,1.17,2.46,3.26,and 6.08 to 6.21. If you see something different than this then I appreciate your showing it. I will ask you to mention how you see these things are connected different than the given circuit diagram. I am sure there is a way of counting the connections shown as three connections yet transistor circuitry does not seem to function well when paralleled by a diode? So I would ask your theory of how this circuit works if different than shown?

[Guest]

[realmikel]

First I would like to identify the ( capacitor, battery) item as a reed switch instead. The two lower smaller marked in red and blue magnets on the rim of the flywheel ride just above the upper spring holder for that device. This explains why the coils are slightly offset from what you might imagine is some sort of order. Since the springs to hold this > reed switch> would bump into the wooden uprights they were located offset. Since the timing is roughly 90 degrees then the upper coils would be askew by the same amount that was used to adjust for the wooden uprights by the reed switch attachments. At least this is what I have observed.

[garrypm]

Hi Mikel,

Can you get a good view of the TOP battery spring and wire connection.

It would make sense to place the reed switch between the underside of
plastic, where the spring is, and the top side where the wire connection is actually taken from.


Let me know your thoughts

Thanks, Garry

[realmikel]

Garrypm Not sure exactly what your asking about, Yes I have looked at the upper spring and if this is a hoax your right that would be a good place to hide a reed switch. They can be quite small. I am not sure why this fellow would go to such lengths to create a hoax? He didn't even put the vids up on energetic forum much less make any claims. Even if this runs down after 2 to 5 minutes the ratio of off time to run time on a battery is pretty good assuming it is not a hoax. I did notice your looking on what to do with a negative pulse from a circuit. Do you grock that this circuit does exactly that? He is using the negative spike of a collapsing field to drive the coil to turn the device just like your looking at in your other thread. No complex micros or any other complicated circuitry.

[garrypm]

Thanks Mikel, Garry