Tesla / Imhotep Radiant Energy Circuit

[Seth0103]

I rebuilt the circuit and borrowed the diodes from my burnt circuit and it's working better than last time. I used different caps for my ground and am using a 12 volt mains dc inverter. It was exciting to flip the switch and hear the hum of the inverter start and light come on. It was even more exciting to plug a 60 watt lamp in and 1000 watt heater. I've tried a few other odds and ends with no problem. I noticed that the light didn't get hot only warm. Is this a cold electricity circuit?

[mcombatti]

Cool

So,. just for fun I decided to revisit my "The Free Energy Device" handbook tonight, hoping to refresh my memory on some of Tesla's thoughts on the whole "radiant energy" thing,.
But instead of any of Tesla's articles, there on page 18 & 19, (the first article in the book really) was:
"TESLA TECHNOLOGY AND RADIOISOTOPIC ENERGY GENERATION" !!!!!

This is the only full copy of this document I can find anywhere on the internet.

Your device is clearly taken straight out of this Paul M. Brown fellow's playbook.
The main difference (from what I can see/understand) is that he was using more dangerous forms of alpha and beta emitting isotopes.

Looks like this Paul M. Brown fellow died in 2002

He wrote a patent too and ill bet theres lots more good info there as well:
"Apparatus for Direct Conversion of Radioactive Decay Energy to Electrical Energy," US #4,835,433 (1989)

Cool never heard of him or read the book. It's not new technology... And beta voltaic batteries have been around since the 1940's

[mcombatti]

Cold electricity

I rebuilt the circuit and borrowed the diodes from my burnt circuit and it's working better than last time. I used different caps for my ground and am using a 12 volt mains dc inverter. It was exciting to flip the switch and hear the hum of the inverter start and light come on. It was even more exciting to plug a 60 watt lamp in and 1000 watt heater. I've tried a few other odds and ends with no problem. I noticed that the light didn't get hot only warm. Is this a cold electricity circuit?

I'm not too familiar with cold electricity... Although I don't believe the circuit is. If you're using a sparkgap I suppose it would be like a tesla hairpin circuit. Can you post any photos of your working prototype? I'm still working on a video for mine....good idea about the inverter and using lower voltage capacitors.... Makes the voltage more managable..

[jimboot]

I rebuilt the circuit and borrowed the diodes from my burnt circuit and it's working better than last time. I used different caps for my ground and am using a 12 volt mains dc inverter. It was exciting to flip the switch and hear the hum of the inverter start and light come on. It was even more exciting to plug a 60 watt lamp in and 1000 watt heater. I've tried a few other odds and ends with no problem. I noticed that the light didn't get hot only warm. Is this a cold electricity circuit?

Wow Seth excellent. Finishing mine this weekend. Love to see some pix or vid if you get a chance.

[leonof]

I rebuilt the circuit and borrowed the diodes from my burnt circuit and it's working better than last time. I used different caps for my ground and am using a 12 volt mains dc inverter. It was exciting to flip the switch and hear the hum of the inverter start and light come on. It was even more exciting to plug a 60 watt lamp in and 1000 watt heater. I've tried a few other odds and ends with no problem. I noticed that the light didn't get hot only warm. Is this a cold electricity circuit?

you can show a picture or a video of the device in operation?

[aaron5120]

I rebuilt the circuit and borrowed the diodes from my burnt circuit and it's working better than last time. I used different caps for my ground and am using a 12 volt mains dc inverter. It was exciting to flip the switch and hear the hum of the inverter start and light come on. It was even more exciting to plug a 60 watt lamp in and 1000 watt heater. I've tried a few other odds and ends with no problem. I noticed that the light didn't get hot only warm. Is this a cold electricity circuit?

Hi Seth0103, please describe how did you measure the amperage output of your circuit. I think it was a typo from your last post, indicating 22KV and 1.4A output, I think it should be more realistic to say 1.4mA, right?
aaron5120

[LetsReplicate]

Challenge accepted! ...because it was already done.

Indeed there is a ground connection... The ground runs from inside the tube to the earth... It's not necessary.. Although will increase voltage/current very much. There are two methods to charge the circuit, one is by earth bound RF... The other is by electrostatics (ionization)... Low frequency RF is non ionizing radiation.. Note we are using High Frequency... Which causes ionization quite readily.. Thus why smoke detectors say not to put the radioactive material close to a HF source.. Light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum and is both a wave and particle.. As are all forms of electromagnetism... Six people have wrote already of it functioning as described, and I may not have all answers as to how it works, but it does. Everyone says perpetual motion is impossible, but with a closed horseshoe magnet and two neos you can make a compass spin and spin and spin.. All parts stationary.. If you want the original circuit with non modern parts, lookup patent by hermann plauson (probably won't be in a patent database since it's been censored, but it is on the web in numerous locations), it's more simplistic.. But powered the world fair in Germany in early 1900's. Before trying to figure out why something shouldn't work, try it and try to figure out why it works. If it wasn't something, I wouldn't be wasting my time and energy and $$ here to get nothing out of it and look like an @$$. :-)

Best way to describe how it works is here
Atmospheric electricity - Electric Universe

To save you time of having to search for Herman Plauson,
http://www.nuenergy.org/pdf/plauson1540998.pdf

It works.. Just build it.

You don't need to keep saying why it works: you need to provide enough information to ACTUALLY BUILD A COPY OF YOURS.

So since SOMEONE has to post pictures of a built one, allow ME to (the point of replications is to have something to replicate, all this is is a theory...):

(I apologize for my poor use of wiring conventions: this was just a testing circuit. The spark gap was rotating when all the pictures were taken.)

No Emitter: 98.7mV


Emitter: 81.8mV


"Dummy Emitter" (1/4" round neodymium magnet): 89.3mV

I opted for the rotary spark gap method you showed the circuit for but never talked about; for any components you didn't specify (just about all of them), I just used what I had on hand. Input capacitors are 0.1uf as lower values limited input voltage. Input diodes are Germanium, all others are Schottky diodes (0.15V forward). It should be noted that you completely ignored the fact that diodes have max reverse voltages, had you actually gotten more than 30V reverse peak they would have all failed. Electrolytic capacitors are 470uF, 50V (you were incorrect describing how their maximum ratings work by the way: there is no internal limit, they just break "at some point" above the rating value). The bottle used in the picture is the 22uH and described in the circuit, and the bottles beside the circuits were just the ones I used in the testing today (there are about 10 more, the more inductive ones work have higher voltage output). I have oscilloscope shots of the low voltage RF input: it would be higher if my antenna wasn't just a metal plate with a short length of wire.

I still get more output when the alpha emitter is disconnected from the ground. When I remove the emitter from the bottle: the voltage increases even higher. When I use a "dummy emitter" (neodymium magnet with a REAL magnetic field) the same effect occurs. Conclusion: the choke is causing inductive leaking, not charging. This actually agrees with how scientists understand electricity because the frequency in the coil is inducing the same signal in the ground.

So, show me a working one, fully constructed and give me the specifications to replicated it exactly: or please just admit you were running on the theory and never really got it working yourself (besides lighting an LED) so I can stop exposing myself to alpha radiation. Pictures please: not more conjecture.

1. I am confused on the tuning aspect. Are there two coils in the circuit?: the RF Choke surrounding the Ion tube, and the tuning coil.?
Or are are they the same thing?
If they are the same, which two capacitors must equal 35 pF assuming the RF choke has an inductance of 24.82 uH?
I have included a picture with two interpretations.
Attachment 9736
Which is correct? or if neither, could you clarify further?


2. What do you mean by "Outer Variable Capacitance Dielectric Shield", and what products would you reccomend?


If using a transformer to convert from HV/LC to LV/HC
3. What purpose does the spark gap serve?
4. What type / value of Capacitors should be used for the two transformer capacitors?


If using the "Electron Cascade Amplifier" circuit to convert from HV/LC to LV/HC
5. What type / value of capacitors & resistors should be used?


Output
6. What frequency will be at the output of the transformer?

1: The second one, the "resonant circuit" is a virtual one that represents the coil.
2: he means get a round fish bowl like object so that it is a different distance away from the tube at all points and reflects ions back. Pictures of a working one are in desperate need at the moment
3: All the current stored in the circuit lead across the spark gap when it fires: it is supposed give us the inductive "snap" we need to drive the transformer. It requires building up several hundred volts to work however: which should break the RF diodes.
4: "DC blocking caps", which tend to be around 0.1uF.
5: I used 1nf and 1M ohms.
6: Ideally it would be double your receive frequency, but that will never be perfect. How much power you might get is the big question here.

[jimboot]

@letsreplicate thanks for that. Just finished 240 winds. Is your ION unit "airtight"? Great pix!

[citfta]

I have debated with myself for several days now about whether I should even waste any more time on this thread or not. I see where there are still a few people like Farmhand and LetsReplicate who are trying to inject some reality into this thread so I guess I'll try also. I expect to be ignored just like they have been. I am not interested in starting a debate, I just want to point out some glaringly blatant false statements I have seen posted.

First off the simple circuit posted as #5 is nothing more than an RF detector with some voltage doubling caps added to it. It will generate some voltage in the presence of any electromagnetic field. The stronger the field of course the higher the voltage. At most you can expect to get a few volts unless you are sitting next to a TV or radio station. Since it is an untuned circuit you can pick up some voltage even where there is no apparent RF power around. Take it out into the wilderness where there are no transmitters or power lines and the voltage will drop to nothing. Even when you do get some voltage the current is so small it is not of any practical value.

Another mistake that has been repeated several times in the last few pages is that the voltage value printed on the cap will somehow determine how high the cap will charge. CAPS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. The cap is going to charge to the same level as the voltage applied to the cap. The value on the cap is the voltage level we are not supposed to exceed if we don't want to damage the cap. I think it was LetsReplicate that already pointed that out and no one paid any attention. If you want to see a cap charge up some just put a couple of clip leads on one and lay it on your bench. It will probably pick up a volt or two all by itself.

Now lets look at the claim of thousands of volts and power from the other little circuit. Anyone that knows anything about electronics knows that the diodes called for in the circuit cannot handle any where near that kind of voltage. They would vanish in a puff of magic smoke. Yet it was claimed that after the original circuit went up in smoke the diodes were reused and an even better working circuit was built. I have worked in electronics for over 50 years and almost always when a circuit goes up in smoke the diodes are the first things to burn out so I really can't believe that statement. As has been already pointed out the claimed power out would vaporize that little circuit in a flash of light and smoke.

I have built a couple of these circuits. The first one I built gave me 350 mv. The second one I built using a smaller test tube like bottle and only got 30 mv. I was willing to give this a try in case there was something I was missing but after several tries and all the conflicting info being presented I came to the conclusion this whole thing is a farce. There still bas not been anyone to show an actual working build yielding a reasonable amount of power after several requests for some proof.

I am not a non-believer in OU. I have over the years seen a lot of things that make me believe there is more to this world than what we have been taught. I only posted this to try and get people to open their eyes and look more closely at what is being presented.

Respectfully,

Carroll

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I decided to try out the circuit that dianne had in her video for something to mess around with.
Though I am neutral in regard to the 22kv at 1.4 amp claims, would be nice to see some build information on that setup.
Anyway, I'm using what i have on hand.
2 - 470uf-25v electrolytics
2 - .22uf ac caps
4 - 2n4148 diodes
using a small 30 gauge coil i had as antenna, it works ok, slowly charging caps. Then i thought to touch the circuit in different areas and found that if i touch the plus or minus of the electrolytic caps, the voltage in the caps rises much quicker.
So I attached the plus and minus of the in series electrolytic capacitors to a string of 34 christmas leds and it charged even faster, not sure if it's just acting as a bigger antenna or the diodes have some effect.
Within 10 minutes it was over 1 volt and is still climbing.
Anyway, later today i will see if i can light an led or something.
peace love light
tyson

[LetsReplicate]

@letsreplicate thanks for that. Just finished 240 winds. Is your ION unit "airtight"? Great pix!

Thank you.

It's about as airtight as it's going to get with cork. I can hear the "pop" of air when I unseal the corks. I didn't bother surrounding this one in an outer jar because I'd need to buy turpentine to drill through the glass: I wanted some kind of result before I start messing around with that.

using a small 30 gauge coil i had as antenna, it works ok, slowly charging caps. Then i thought to touch the circuit in different areas and found that if i touch the plus or minus of the electrolytic caps, the voltage in the caps rises much quicker.
So I attached the plus and minus of the in series electrolytic capacitors to a string of 34 christmas leds and it charged even faster, not sure if it's just acting as a bigger antenna or the diodes have some effect.

If you make a trip to a dollar store: pick up a pair of UHF rabbit ears (mine cost me $2.50) and connect both of those leads as the antenna input with an earth ground (you can just wrap some wire around the round grounding prong on a object and plug it into the wall, but be careful not to short it to either of the other prongs) you should get quite a bit more than with just wire. When I connected mine, I get more output than with the bottle, but the output voltage sill drops quite fast if you have a 1M resistor on the output (which only requires 1 micro amp per volt).

The LED lights idea is interesting: LEDs can also receive light to produce a voltage (opto-electric coupling). You have them connected across the output of the circuit? Multimeter leads have been noted to cause feedback into the circuit: this is most true when there is no connection to Earth ground. The leads of the meter are acting as additional antennas. The LED string may be doing a combination of those 2 things. I'm going to have to try that.

[leonof]

News?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, i let the caps charge all day and it maxed out at 2.05 volts.
I then placed a red led across caps and it lit dimly for a couple seconds.
And the caps stayed at around 1.5 volts, around the forward voltage of red led.
So it works, just need to get the amperage up to drive something useful or charge batteries.
peace love light
tyson

[leonof]

Are you sure it does not come from etheric energy charges or stray?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi leon, i don't know exactly what the source of energy might be, though i can envision hundreds, thousands, millions of these circuits miniaturized to whatever degree possible and then it could provide some nice, usable energy.
And if this will still work away from all man made radiations, then all the better.
peace love light
tyson