Tesla / Imhotep Radiant Energy Circuit

[jimboot]

@mcombatti ooops. My coil measures 1299 microhenries according to this calculator Coil Inductance Calculator - 66pacific.com I dont think I can get caps small enough to tune it to 5.4mhz can I?

[jimboot]

May have to wind another coil due to the ridiculously large one I have wound there arent caps small enough to get me to 5.4mhz. Good learning experience anyway here are some pix of the build. i bought a new smoke alarm to get the americum. Also drilled my first hole in a glass jar Will hook up a circuit anyway to see what happens.

[LetsReplicate]

Hi folks, i let the caps charge all day and it maxed out at 2.05 volts.
I then placed a red led across caps and it lit dimly for a couple seconds.
And the caps stayed at around 1.5 volts, around the forward voltage of red led.
So it works, just need to get the amperage up to drive something useful or charge batteries.
peace love light
tyson

Yup, that's is the problem: there is only enough power to flash an LED, then the LED's forward leakage prevents the output from going over 1.5 without providing any light. If you measure the current leaking though the LED, it is in the nano amps or lower. The only time I got an LED to stay even half-lit was with one of the high inductance bottles practically touching a CFL.

Are you sure it does not come from etheric energy charges or stray?

It comes from ether in the same way all light uses ether to travel. This circuit is a voltage doubling, full wave bridge rectifier. Voltage doubling requires halving input's current. The power all enters the circuit by induction. There is no such thing as invisible energy: the people who think there is are simply not aware of phase angles.

Hi folks, Hi leon, i don't know exactly what the source of energy might be, though i can envision hundreds, thousands, millions of these circuits miniaturized to whatever degree possible and then it could provide some nice, usable energy.
And if this will still work away from all man made radiations, then all the better.
peace love light

A few hundred of them might give you 1 watt but you'd need multiple antennas to run them all. It would be easier just to get an antenna tuned to a signal that produced usable power. A 5.4Mhz antenna might actually work (which is why I was interested in these bottles), but not if the information to build a 5.4Mhz antenna is being withheld.

My coil measures 1299 microhenries according to this calculator Coil Inductance Calculator - 66pacific.com I dont think I can get caps small enough to tune it to 5.4mhz can I?

May have to wind another coil due to the ridiculously large one I have wound there arent caps small enough to get me to 5.4mhz. Good learning experience anyway here are some pix of the build. i bought a new smoke alarm to get the americum. Also drilled my first hole in a glass jar Will hook up a circuit anyway to see what happens.

REALLY nice coil man, keep that thing! Inductance increases quickly if the wires aren't spaced out, for your next one use a thread that is at least the diameter of the wire and wind them together (you can remove the thread after if you want).

No, you can't get capacitance that small; but even if you had the 22uH to 23uH one: there is no tuning parts provided in the circuit; and there is supposed to be too much voltage here for a variable capacitor. That means you have to produce a coil that is naturally tuned to a self-resonant frequency of 5.4Mhz and since there is no predictable calculation to determine self-capacitance from wire spacing: it can only be done by random chance, or by measuring reactance at frequency (which takes an RF function generator, oscilloscope and math) and adjusting the coil to work. If we had the exact dimensions of mcombatti's coil, then it would be possible to make an exact copy who's tuning would be pretty close to 5.4Mhz (assuming mcombatti has one, and he sure hasn't proven that he has so far). That is why I asked for the dimensions: there is NO way for an average person to build this circuit without them.

But the issue actually gets more complicated than that: in order to build a 5.4Mhz antenna, we DON'T want the coil to be tuned to 5.4Mhz. The antenna itself needs to have an electrical length of either 1/4 of the wavelength, or 3/4 of the wavelength and the coil supposed to accomplish "loading" (compressed wire length) so that you don't need a 45.55 foot wire. That means we need the coil tuned to "some higher frequency", and then the antenna will be tuned by length of the vertical wire: this is commonly known as a whip antenna.

*crickets* ...It's been almost a full day, I pray mcombatti is taking pictures and hasn't electrocuted himself.

[Tishatang]

There is a way to wind a coil and be able to trim it's self resonance. It is little known or used. You wind the coil with a center tap. One end and the tap is the part of the circuit that is close to what you want. The unused end of coil can be unwound to change the capacitance of the whole coil. As you unwind the free end coils, you can fine tune its self resonance. The unconnected end might even act as an aerial or ambient input? Coils made this way have a broader range or tuning. Which might be a good thing since there are other freq up to 10Mhz useful according to chart posted by mcombatti.

[jimboot]

@letsreplicate thanks mate. I was looking at this calculation @mcombatti mentioned 300, turns trying to imagine how that comes out at 24.82mH does my head in I am a noob tho . BTW I love your rotating spark gap. took me a little while to get it.

[jimboot]

There is a way to wind a coil and be able to trim it's self resonance. It is little known or used. You wind the coil with a center tap. One end and the tap is the part of the circuit that is close to what you want. The unused end of coil can be unwound to change the capacitance of the whole coil. As you unwind the free end coils, you can fine tune its self resonance. The unconnected end might even act as an aerial or ambient input? Coils made this way have a broader range or tuning. Which might be a good thing since there are other freq up to 10Mhz useful according to chart posted by mcombatti.

Thanks mate. As I wound 3 spools I have 2 centre taps

[LetsReplicate]

There is a way to wind a coil and be able to trim it's self resonance. It is little known or used. You wind the coil with a center tap. One end and the tap is the part of the circuit that is close to what you want. The unused end of coil can be unwound to change the capacitance of the whole coil. As you unwind the free end coils, you can fine tune its self resonance. The unconnected end might even act as an aerial or ambient input? Coils made this way have a broader range or tuning. Which might be a good thing since there are other freq up to 10Mhz useful according to chart posted by mcombatti.

The key to that is finding it's self resonant point and adjusting it. Inductance an self-capacitance very depending on frequency. That means to tune the coil you would need to drive the coil at the frequency you want, then adjust the coil to have a phase angle of 0 degrees.

Unwinding a section of coil for tuning causes an increase in capacitance while it reduces inductance. Balancing these factors is the hard part of making a transmitting antenna. Receiving antennas are pretty forgiving though as long as you have a low Q (which is increased by having a loading coil: more inductance = smaller receiving bandwidth). A 45.55' long antenna would still receive up to 10Mhz, but there would be a dead spot at 10.8Mhz because the antenna would be it's half wave, which would act as open at your receive point, reflecting it back on the line. You'd still be able to tune to 10.8Mhz though by grounding the center of the antenna wire (baring in mind that you'd lose all DC charging then, but DC is not considered in RF receiving).

@jimboot
Mcombatti was using a test tube, they have a standard outside diameter of about 5/8": that is how he got 300 turns. It looks like your bottle is at least 2", so you won't get that many but that doesn't matter. The length and proximity of the wire are what cause inductance, not the number of turns.

Thank you. =) The spark gap was made with the 3.5V motor from a broken DVD player. The speed of the rotating CD keeps it stable despite the circuit on top not being perfectly balanced.

[leonof]

Mcombatti was kidnapped??

[soundiceuk]

The level of suspense is killing me.

In the meantime.... I placed an order to a UK electronics company last Monday for an square wave generator that switches 12v with variable frequency and duty cycle. It has a 3 amp fuse, two control knobs, 4 connections. 2 for battery, 2 for coil. It does a frequency range from 100hz - 100khz

It has been specifically designed to handle ignition coils because the of common ground they have and their high voltage spikes.

Should be bulletproof!

I am going to release the circuit diagram as soon as I have it, this week. I know it will come in useful for many projects.

If you have not studied this patent before please do:

Tesla Patent 454,622 - System of Electric Lighting

After reading this patent I experimented and came to realise that solar panels were not around then and maybe they could be utilised for OU.

My idea is OU from making light from very few watts to charge solar panels making more watts.

My experiments have catergorically proved that increasing the voltage, current or frequency of the secondary increases the amount of light of the bulb/s connected.

The only reason I haven't been able to push this further is because of the electro/mechanical 12v 5 pin relay I've been using. As you can imagine the waveform isn't very clean and is limited to a frequency, nowhere near the patent minimum recommendations.

I look forward to releasing the circuit to you guys. I realise that like me, some of us have very little equipment or electronics knowledge

Thank you to all the guys for there input.

Great community!

Matt, it's great your Grandad knew Nikola Tesla. My Grandad is 90 and next time I see him, I will ask him what he knew of Nikola Tesla :=)

Are you guys aware there are 5,000, 10,000 and 20,000 watt bulbs on the market?

Surely this would be like bringing the sun closer to the solar panel?

[StweenyA]

When I rested my circuit on my laptop power supply, I got 2.77 V

What would be the most efficient way to shuttle the energy out of this circuit? Using a 555 for eg, how would it be done?

[jimboot]

Mcombatti was kidnapped??

I'd say he is pretty busy, seems to be running a few diff web based projects.

[leonof]

I'd say he is pretty busy, seems to be running a few diff web based projects.

thanks for the information, hope to see it soon ^ _ ^

[LetsReplicate]

The level of suspense is killing me.

In the meantime.... I placed an order to a UK electronics company last Monday for an square wave generator that switches 12v with variable frequency and duty cycle. It has a 3 amp fuse, two control knobs, 4 connections. 2 for battery, 2 for coil. It does a frequency range from 100hz - 100khz

It has been specifically designed to handle ignition coils because the of common ground they have and their high voltage spikes.

Should be bulletproof!

I am going to release the circuit diagram as soon as I have it, this week. I know it will come in useful for many projects.

If you have not studied this patent before please do:

Tesla Patent 454,622 - System of Electric Lighting

After reading this patent I experimented and came to realise that solar panels were not around then and maybe they could be utilised for OU.

My idea is OU from making light from very few watts to charge solar panels making more watts.

My experiments have catergorically proved that increasing the voltage, current or frequency of the secondary increases the amount of light of the bulb/s connected.

The only reason I haven't been able to push this further is because of the electro/mechanical 12v 5 pin relay I've been using. As you can imagine the waveform isn't very clean and is limited to a frequency, nowhere near the patent minimum recommendations.

I look forward to releasing the circuit to you guys. I realise that like me, some of us have very little equipment or electronics knowledge

Thank you to all the guys for there input.

Great community!

Matt, it's great your Grandad knew Nikola Tesla. My Grandad is 90 and next time I see him, I will ask him what he knew of Nikola Tesla :=)

Are you guys aware there are 5,000, 10,000 and 20,000 watt bulbs on the market?

Surely this would be like bringing the sun closer to the solar panel?

Nice! Is that a chip or a full unit?

My understating of all the old natural collection lighting systems is that they all ran on "arc lamps" (which a the same thing as a fluorescent light or photo tube). They can be run in a "no-current" (static electricity) system because they charge like a spark gap (they ARE a spark gap). Incandescent bulbs require power (heat dissipation) to run and it is unlikely that you'll have enough power to light at full intensity (because you really have exatly the same power as you started with, but you're compressing it into a spike. Even if you could light a conventional power bulb, you will be loosing most of the generated power because it will be on the other side of the bulb from the solar panel(s).

I would suggest using LEDs in series (take your HV spike voltage divided by the forward drop voltage of the LEDs, and more frequency = more light output) and then using another set of the same LEDs as the pickup. If you use a frequency of LED that is common in sunlight the receiving LEDs will receive both the sunlight and the flashes from the HV. My money would be on that working more than trying to light conventional bulbs and harvesting them. Plus: LEDs in bulk are cheap.

It's a good concept, I look forward to seeing your circuit and hopefully replicating it.

[jimboot]

@letsreplicate yeah I'm trying to use that calc to get below 50 microhenries with 300 turns. I've opted for a glass tube 1.9 cm which tapers to about 1.7. 85 turns over 8.8 cm looks like around 26uH. See how we go

[jimboot]

Here's the new tube. Reckon I'll need about 32pF caps. much more workable