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Trying to get a device to work using gravity is overcome by using opposing forces, keeping the wheel in balance.
to make use of a pendulum type of lever, they need to be used in pairs, assume a pair of pendulums are connected using gears
and geared in such a way, that when 1 is at 8-o’clock, the other at 4-o’clock, both trying to fall but unable to as its in balance, due to its connection via gears or cranks, chains e.t.c. causing them to counteract each
others force, with the result being a balanced system.
as shown simply in FIG A.
This set up is pointless at the moment, but has potential energy due to the force being applied by the 2 heavy levers.
work can be done by the pair of levers ( as in this example) by having them run around a wheel similar to a Ferris wheel, and when connected in the correct manner, will try to turn in the opposite direction of
the wheel, so when the wheel moves CW 1 revolution, the opposed pendulums move CCW 1 revolution.
these 2 pendulums being opposed will counteract and overcome resistance, and keep the main wheel in balance remain in balance.
FIG B.
This shows a simple design of pendulum levers opposing each other as in FIG A, it does not show the connection that keeps the levers opposed,
basically each lever has its own connection to a mechanical system that drives the wheel, force is evenly transferred to each pendulum lever to keep the wheel in balance.
when lever (pendulum) A encounters resistance while turning the wheel, it will try to lift upwards , trying to turn the wheel CCW, which is the opposite direction the wheel needs to turn,
lever (pendulum) B on the opposite side is also trying to lift upwards due to the same resistance transferred to it, causing this pendulum to lift, which now tries to turn the wheel CW, the result is a balanced wheel.
in the case of the system compressing a spring, if it takes less effort to compress the spring than the combined force exerted by the weighted levers (pendulums), the levers will try to lift ( but will not lift to much due to them being heavier and placing more force on the spring, than the spring can handle), both lift in opposite directions equally keeping the wheel balanced.
The wheel turns when the stored potential energy is released through a drive system.
The wheel does not try to counter rotate e.g. ( during 1 test when compressing the spring by hand turning the wheel, only using 1 unit, without any other springs applying power back to rotate the wheel, there was no counter resistance, except for friction, as it's always in balance, due to 1 pendulum trying to turn CW while the other is trying to turn CCW, so if the Ferris type wheel is turning CW the weighted levers will always try to fall in opposite directions to each other. they are constantly trying to fall.
When more springs are used in the drive system and equally arranged, the smoother it runs, the smoother rotation is due to power being applied more evenly.
A flywheel helps with rotation
there are many ways to use the opposing force to power the wheel, the use of opposing force plus the correct secondary drive system mechanisms designed to make use of this potential energy is the important part to make use of gravity.
resistance is overcome when using opposing forces, and in today’s world trying to get the wheel to rotate on its own using only mechanics is more complicated, as there are ready made reliable generators and motors that make it possible to build a much smaller design with large power output, by using a motor to drive the wheel, which uses less power to drive a higher output generator.
FIG. C DESCRIPTION.
fig c shows another basic set-up using of a pair of opposed weights.
when connected via crank, gears or chains, so that as the wheel turns CW 1 revolution and the weighted levers rotate CCW 1 revolution, the pair of pendulums on each side will stay in the relative same position to each other, ( hanging at the same degree to each other e.g. 8 o-clock and 4 o-clock), while moving around the outside of axle on the main wheel.
if the gearing that keeps the 2 opposed pendulums raised, can disconnect from each other when encountering resistance, ( as the resistance is now what keeps the arms in their relative lifted opposed position, using a ratchet type device, then work can now be done.
The resistance is caused by using any device, attached in the correct manner, e.g. a generator which allows the force of 1 opposed pendulum to be transferred to the second opposed pendulum, but not directly connected, this allows an equal and opposite force to be transferred to both pairs of the opposed pendulums, as the main wheel is balanced on both sides, it takes little effort to rotate the wheel.
the easiest explanation is to take the case of attaching generator bodies directly and equally spaced near the circumference of a wheel, ( Ferris wheel style, but with the body secured to the wheel.)
Attach long weighted pendulums to the generator rotors,
As the wheel is turned CW by a motor, when the generators are under load the weighted levers will naturally want to turn CCW turning the generator rotors CCW, but the resistance of the generators will cause the arms to try and turn CW, the levers are trying to swing out to the left side of the wheel, and the result is that it takes the same amount of force to turn the generators, as it takes to turn the wheel, due to the wheel now being heavy on the left side.
No energy gain.
When using 2 opposed levers which allows the resistance of of 1 pendulum to be transferred to the second pendulum equally, the force is equally distributed between them balancing the wheel, if 1 pendulum tries to swing out to the left, the other pendulum will swing out to the right, balancing out the wheel.
as long as pendulums weight and leverage is greater than the generators resistance, the pendulums won't swing upwards and try to spin 360 degrees.
this is only a basic description to get the basic understanding of how opposing force can overcome resistance while keeping the wheel balanced.
the above design is not reliable and swings causing unstable power transfer, there are many alternative ways to design a system using the principle of opposing force
One design, which was only for testing purposes, overcome the resistance of springs, on a crank.
NOTE: the rotor and the body of e.g. a generator should be allowed to rotate, it's the resistance of either the mechanical system or generator that is passed from 1 of the opposed pendulums to the other, when the rotor spins faster than the generator body due to a higher gearing, the rotor tries to push or turn the generator body in the same direction, the force equals out between both of the pendulums as its now transferred to the other pendulum via the connection from the generators body, the body can't rotate faster than the rotor, so if the rotor is geared at 2 RPM, and the body at 1 RPM with both turning in the same direction.
FIG: D description.
This shows a pendulum with a type of ratchet system incorporated in it, it's only an example how gravity can drive the wheel.
This is the secondary system that drives the wheel , when in the (12 o-clock) position ready to swing - fall down.
it rotates full circle, 360 degrees.
The ratchet does not allow free wheeling (so it's not actually a ratchet, will use the term ratchet for easier understanding), else the opposed pendulums could drop in a vertical position.
the ratchet allows an x amount of degrees free movement ( judging from besslers AP drawing it's probably 30 degrees), "this is important" so when the ratchet pendulum is being lifted against gravity, allowing transfer of it's resistance to the opposed pair of pendulums, (when lifted against gravity the stop of the inner ratchet is forced against the outer ratchet bodies stop, allowing the drive pendulum to be lifted ).
once in it's highest position (12 o-clock) it will eventually start to fall due to gravity, and will want to fall faster than the wheels RPM, the inner ratchet body stop can no longer push against the ratchet stop of the outer body due to the wheel speed being slower than the speed the drive pendulum wants to drop due to gravity .
This drive pendulum is now disconnected from the pair of opposing pendulums due to the gap of the ratchet device.
this ratchet pendulum is now free to power the wheel, which could simply be transferred to the main wheel via a horizontal bar (G) connected directly to the main wheel when the ratchet (drive) pendulum arm comes in contact with it.
The drive system is not placed out from the wheels centre, as in the fashion that the opposed pendulum pairs are. so the ratchet pendulums move with the main wheel, with a small gap which allows transfer when being lifted or ascending.
Many of these ratchet type pendulums would need to be used and equally spaced so the pairs of opposed pendulums do no fall, as they are under constant resistance similar to a generator.
the weight of the combined ratchet drive pendulums is less than the opposed pair of pendulums.
Fig D shows the ratchet pendulum, if used on a wheel moving counter clock wise.
an extra set of gears are used to reverse the direction of rotation from the opposed pendulums to the ratchet drive system pendulum, so when the main wheel turns CCW the opposing pendulums (H-I) FIG E, turn CW, the extra gear on each opposing pendulum now allows the drive pendulum system (that drives the wheel) to turn in the same direction as the main wheel CCW, allowing the falling ratchet (drive) pendulum now to transfer it's weight simply to the bar horizontally connected to the main wheel.
The drive system can be geared up, unsure about this weight system design, have not used or performed tests using weights on the drive system, "prefer other devices"
a generator can be geared up which allows faster rotation of the generator, the resistance is still equally transferred to each of the opposed pendulums due to the magnetic fields passing each other,
the resistive force is equalized between both the opposed pendulums due to the generator rotor trying to turn the generator body in the same direction, ( remember, the generator body needs to be able to rotate as well in the same direction as the generator rotor, if a higher gearing is not used from 1 of the opposing pendulums to the generator rotor, the generator rotor and the generator body would rotate in the same direction at the same RPM, causing no rotation.
If the rotor is geared to run at twice the RPM of 1 of the opposed pair of pendulums, it now can move past the magnetic fields, placing an equal amount of force onto the other opposed pendulum, the rotor is now passing the magnetic field of the generator body at 1 RPM.
Have only tested drive systems that allow this type of slippage, e.g. a spring drive system, so their may be some type of error in the explanation of how the gravity driven ratchet pendulum system works.
The other advantage of using a generator (apart from the obvious), is that no ratchet system is needed to keep the opposed pendulums in a raised position, they rise up or drop down depending on the amount of resistance they face.
The extra set of gears that reverse the drive pendulum ratchet are not needed if used on e.g. a generator.
Not certain, but my thoughts are that the gap in the ratchet gravity drive system would allow the transfer when its at a 1:1 ratio, as they don’t need to pass each other as a generator does, it only needs a gap, for the connect and disconnect.
much easier to power a generator using a motor to turn the wheel.
to make use of a pendulum type of lever, they need to be used in pairs, assume a pair of pendulums are connected using gears
and geared in such a way, that when 1 is at 8-o’clock, the other at 4-o’clock, both trying to fall but unable to as its in balance, due to its connection via gears or cranks, chains e.t.c. causing them to counteract each
others force, with the result being a balanced system.
as shown simply in FIG A.
This set up is pointless at the moment, but has potential energy due to the force being applied by the 2 heavy levers.
work can be done by the pair of levers ( as in this example) by having them run around a wheel similar to a Ferris wheel, and when connected in the correct manner, will try to turn in the opposite direction of
the wheel, so when the wheel moves CW 1 revolution, the opposed pendulums move CCW 1 revolution.
these 2 pendulums being opposed will counteract and overcome resistance, and keep the main wheel in balance remain in balance.
FIG B.
This shows a simple design of pendulum levers opposing each other as in FIG A, it does not show the connection that keeps the levers opposed,
basically each lever has its own connection to a mechanical system that drives the wheel, force is evenly transferred to each pendulum lever to keep the wheel in balance.
when lever (pendulum) A encounters resistance while turning the wheel, it will try to lift upwards , trying to turn the wheel CCW, which is the opposite direction the wheel needs to turn,
lever (pendulum) B on the opposite side is also trying to lift upwards due to the same resistance transferred to it, causing this pendulum to lift, which now tries to turn the wheel CW, the result is a balanced wheel.
in the case of the system compressing a spring, if it takes less effort to compress the spring than the combined force exerted by the weighted levers (pendulums), the levers will try to lift ( but will not lift to much due to them being heavier and placing more force on the spring, than the spring can handle), both lift in opposite directions equally keeping the wheel balanced.
The wheel turns when the stored potential energy is released through a drive system.
The wheel does not try to counter rotate e.g. ( during 1 test when compressing the spring by hand turning the wheel, only using 1 unit, without any other springs applying power back to rotate the wheel, there was no counter resistance, except for friction, as it's always in balance, due to 1 pendulum trying to turn CW while the other is trying to turn CCW, so if the Ferris type wheel is turning CW the weighted levers will always try to fall in opposite directions to each other. they are constantly trying to fall.
When more springs are used in the drive system and equally arranged, the smoother it runs, the smoother rotation is due to power being applied more evenly.
A flywheel helps with rotation
there are many ways to use the opposing force to power the wheel, the use of opposing force plus the correct secondary drive system mechanisms designed to make use of this potential energy is the important part to make use of gravity.
resistance is overcome when using opposing forces, and in today’s world trying to get the wheel to rotate on its own using only mechanics is more complicated, as there are ready made reliable generators and motors that make it possible to build a much smaller design with large power output, by using a motor to drive the wheel, which uses less power to drive a higher output generator.
FIG. C DESCRIPTION.
fig c shows another basic set-up using of a pair of opposed weights.
when connected via crank, gears or chains, so that as the wheel turns CW 1 revolution and the weighted levers rotate CCW 1 revolution, the pair of pendulums on each side will stay in the relative same position to each other, ( hanging at the same degree to each other e.g. 8 o-clock and 4 o-clock), while moving around the outside of axle on the main wheel.
if the gearing that keeps the 2 opposed pendulums raised, can disconnect from each other when encountering resistance, ( as the resistance is now what keeps the arms in their relative lifted opposed position, using a ratchet type device, then work can now be done.
The resistance is caused by using any device, attached in the correct manner, e.g. a generator which allows the force of 1 opposed pendulum to be transferred to the second opposed pendulum, but not directly connected, this allows an equal and opposite force to be transferred to both pairs of the opposed pendulums, as the main wheel is balanced on both sides, it takes little effort to rotate the wheel.
the easiest explanation is to take the case of attaching generator bodies directly and equally spaced near the circumference of a wheel, ( Ferris wheel style, but with the body secured to the wheel.)
Attach long weighted pendulums to the generator rotors,
As the wheel is turned CW by a motor, when the generators are under load the weighted levers will naturally want to turn CCW turning the generator rotors CCW, but the resistance of the generators will cause the arms to try and turn CW, the levers are trying to swing out to the left side of the wheel, and the result is that it takes the same amount of force to turn the generators, as it takes to turn the wheel, due to the wheel now being heavy on the left side.
No energy gain.
When using 2 opposed levers which allows the resistance of of 1 pendulum to be transferred to the second pendulum equally, the force is equally distributed between them balancing the wheel, if 1 pendulum tries to swing out to the left, the other pendulum will swing out to the right, balancing out the wheel.
as long as pendulums weight and leverage is greater than the generators resistance, the pendulums won't swing upwards and try to spin 360 degrees.
this is only a basic description to get the basic understanding of how opposing force can overcome resistance while keeping the wheel balanced.
the above design is not reliable and swings causing unstable power transfer, there are many alternative ways to design a system using the principle of opposing force
One design, which was only for testing purposes, overcome the resistance of springs, on a crank.
NOTE: the rotor and the body of e.g. a generator should be allowed to rotate, it's the resistance of either the mechanical system or generator that is passed from 1 of the opposed pendulums to the other, when the rotor spins faster than the generator body due to a higher gearing, the rotor tries to push or turn the generator body in the same direction, the force equals out between both of the pendulums as its now transferred to the other pendulum via the connection from the generators body, the body can't rotate faster than the rotor, so if the rotor is geared at 2 RPM, and the body at 1 RPM with both turning in the same direction.
FIG: D description.
This shows a pendulum with a type of ratchet system incorporated in it, it's only an example how gravity can drive the wheel.
This is the secondary system that drives the wheel , when in the (12 o-clock) position ready to swing - fall down.
it rotates full circle, 360 degrees.
The ratchet does not allow free wheeling (so it's not actually a ratchet, will use the term ratchet for easier understanding), else the opposed pendulums could drop in a vertical position.
the ratchet allows an x amount of degrees free movement ( judging from besslers AP drawing it's probably 30 degrees), "this is important" so when the ratchet pendulum is being lifted against gravity, allowing transfer of it's resistance to the opposed pair of pendulums, (when lifted against gravity the stop of the inner ratchet is forced against the outer ratchet bodies stop, allowing the drive pendulum to be lifted ).
once in it's highest position (12 o-clock) it will eventually start to fall due to gravity, and will want to fall faster than the wheels RPM, the inner ratchet body stop can no longer push against the ratchet stop of the outer body due to the wheel speed being slower than the speed the drive pendulum wants to drop due to gravity .
This drive pendulum is now disconnected from the pair of opposing pendulums due to the gap of the ratchet device.
this ratchet pendulum is now free to power the wheel, which could simply be transferred to the main wheel via a horizontal bar (G) connected directly to the main wheel when the ratchet (drive) pendulum arm comes in contact with it.
The drive system is not placed out from the wheels centre, as in the fashion that the opposed pendulum pairs are. so the ratchet pendulums move with the main wheel, with a small gap which allows transfer when being lifted or ascending.
Many of these ratchet type pendulums would need to be used and equally spaced so the pairs of opposed pendulums do no fall, as they are under constant resistance similar to a generator.
the weight of the combined ratchet drive pendulums is less than the opposed pair of pendulums.
Fig D shows the ratchet pendulum, if used on a wheel moving counter clock wise.
an extra set of gears are used to reverse the direction of rotation from the opposed pendulums to the ratchet drive system pendulum, so when the main wheel turns CCW the opposing pendulums (H-I) FIG E, turn CW, the extra gear on each opposing pendulum now allows the drive pendulum system (that drives the wheel) to turn in the same direction as the main wheel CCW, allowing the falling ratchet (drive) pendulum now to transfer it's weight simply to the bar horizontally connected to the main wheel.
The drive system can be geared up, unsure about this weight system design, have not used or performed tests using weights on the drive system, "prefer other devices"
a generator can be geared up which allows faster rotation of the generator, the resistance is still equally transferred to each of the opposed pendulums due to the magnetic fields passing each other,
the resistive force is equalized between both the opposed pendulums due to the generator rotor trying to turn the generator body in the same direction, ( remember, the generator body needs to be able to rotate as well in the same direction as the generator rotor, if a higher gearing is not used from 1 of the opposing pendulums to the generator rotor, the generator rotor and the generator body would rotate in the same direction at the same RPM, causing no rotation.
If the rotor is geared to run at twice the RPM of 1 of the opposed pair of pendulums, it now can move past the magnetic fields, placing an equal amount of force onto the other opposed pendulum, the rotor is now passing the magnetic field of the generator body at 1 RPM.
Have only tested drive systems that allow this type of slippage, e.g. a spring drive system, so their may be some type of error in the explanation of how the gravity driven ratchet pendulum system works.
The other advantage of using a generator (apart from the obvious), is that no ratchet system is needed to keep the opposed pendulums in a raised position, they rise up or drop down depending on the amount of resistance they face.
The extra set of gears that reverse the drive pendulum ratchet are not needed if used on e.g. a generator.
Not certain, but my thoughts are that the gap in the ratchet gravity drive system would allow the transfer when its at a 1:1 ratio, as they don’t need to pass each other as a generator does, it only needs a gap, for the connect and disconnect.
much easier to power a generator using a motor to turn the wheel.
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